(05-28-2013 09:02 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 08:40 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 07:48 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 10:36 AM)TerryD Wrote:  If I were the Czar of the ACC (until assassinated), I would do the following:


UConn as a full member. Cincinnati as a full member.

Georgetown as a full member except for football.

Navy for football only. Army for football only. ND stays the same.

18 members for both football and basketball.

How much would the Army/Navy game mean in TV dollars?

Get ESPN to pony up more money for all the tax breaks it gets from the state of Connecticut.

That closes the "gap" and helps with Northeast exposure. It might piss Jim Delany off. That would be a nice bonus.


This has little chance of happening. This is likely not feasible or profitable, I don't know.

This would likely cause me and my family to suffer the fate of Nicholas and his family at Ekaterinburg.

Still, this would be my idea for competing with the Big Ten for the Northeast instead of surrendering it to Jim Delany.

Now, about that Middle East peace plan.......

No offense TerryD, but I sure am glad you are not the Czar of the ACC!

Ditto

So you 2 guys would be funding the assassin that takes Terry out?

Not advocating violence!!

(05-28-2013 09:02 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 08:40 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 07:48 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 10:36 AM)TerryD Wrote:  If I were the Czar of the ACC (until assassinated), I would do the following:


UConn as a full member. Cincinnati as a full member.

Georgetown as a full member except for football.

Navy for football only. Army for football only. ND stays the same.

18 members for both football and basketball.

How much would the Army/Navy game mean in TV dollars?

Get ESPN to pony up more money for all the tax breaks it gets from the state of Connecticut.

That closes the "gap" and helps with Northeast exposure. It might piss Jim Delany off. That would be a nice bonus.


This has little chance of happening. This is likely not feasible or profitable, I don't know.

This would likely cause me and my family to suffer the fate of Nicholas and his family at Ekaterinburg.

Still, this would be my idea for competing with the Big Ten for the Northeast instead of surrendering it to Jim Delany.

Now, about that Middle East peace plan.......

No offense TerryD, but I sure am glad you are not the Czar of the ACC!

Ditto

So you 2 guys would be funding the assassin that takes Terry out?

With all of that UConn and Georgetown talk........the check is in the mail!

(05-29-2013 07:18 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 09:02 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 08:40 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 07:48 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 10:36 AM)TerryD Wrote:  If I were the Czar of the ACC (until assassinated), I would do the following:


UConn as a full member. Cincinnati as a full member.

Georgetown as a full member except for football.

Navy for football only. Army for football only. ND stays the same.

18 members for both football and basketball.

How much would the Army/Navy game mean in TV dollars?

Get ESPN to pony up more money for all the tax breaks it gets from the state of Connecticut.

That closes the "gap" and helps with Northeast exposure. It might piss Jim Delany off. That would be a nice bonus.


This has little chance of happening. This is likely not feasible or profitable, I don't know.

This would likely cause me and my family to suffer the fate of Nicholas and his family at Ekaterinburg.

Still, this would be my idea for competing with the Big Ten for the Northeast instead of surrendering it to Jim Delany.

Now, about that Middle East peace plan.......

No offense TerryD, but I sure am glad you are not the Czar of the ACC!

Ditto

So you 2 guys would be funding the assassin that takes Terry out?

With all of that UConn and Georgetown talk........the check is in the mail!

But, but Georgetown fans are fun to hate on. Every conference needs a Georgetown...oh wait we have Duke. Nevermind.

If ND sez to bring in GTown/Navy as a hybrid to them going all sports...you do it.

Back to UConn...UConn is helpful to the ACC in helping to lock up New England and helping ND/Cuse to gain NYC market share. The way NYC is you can never control it completely...too cosmopolitan

(05-29-2013 08:51 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-29-2013 07:18 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 09:02 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 08:40 PM)texasorange Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 07:48 PM)XLance Wrote:  No offense TerryD, but I sure am glad you are not the Czar of the ACC!

Ditto

So you 2 guys would be funding the assassin that takes Terry out?

With all of that UConn and Georgetown talk........the check is in the mail!

But, but Georgetown fans are fun to hate on. Every conference needs a Georgetown...oh wait we have Duke. Nevermind.

If ND sez to bring in GTown/Navy as a hybrid to them going all sports...you do it.

Back to UConn...UConn is helpful to the ACC in helping to lock up New England and helping ND/Cuse to gain NYC market share. The way NYC is you can never control it completely...too cosmopolitan

1. It's Dook.

2. Lock up New England?
There are not enough college football fans in New England for 1 team let alone two.

3. If the ACC had really wanted to try to attack and attempt to capture a small share of the NYC market we would have gone after Rutgers instead of Pitt. That market is fool's gold and Swofford knows it.

(05-29-2013 09:04 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-29-2013 08:51 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-29-2013 07:18 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 09:02 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(05-28-2013 08:40 PM)texasorange Wrote:  Ditto

So you 2 guys would be funding the assassin that takes Terry out?

With all of that UConn and Georgetown talk........the check is in the mail!

But, but Georgetown fans are fun to hate on. Every conference needs a Georgetown...oh wait we have Duke. Nevermind.

If ND sez to bring in GTown/Navy as a hybrid to them going all sports...you do it.

Back to UConn...UConn is helpful to the ACC in helping to lock up New England and helping ND/Cuse to gain NYC market share. The way NYC is you can never control it completely...too cosmopolitan

1. It's Dook.

2. Lock up New England?
There are not enough college football fans in New England for 1 team let alone two.

3. If the ACC had really wanted to try to attack and attempt to capture a small share of the NYC market we would have gone after Rutgers instead of Pitt. That market is fool's gold and Swofford knows it.

College football fans exist in NYC but they are mostly alumni from other places. NYC hasn't had indigenous fans since around the time Vince Lombardi was a block of granite, and never will again. In short, good post.

(05-29-2013 09:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  NYC hasn't had indigenous fans since around the time Vince Lombardi was a block of granite, and never will again. In short, good post.

It was slightly more recently than that, but not by a lot.

1924 - "Four Horsemen" of Notre Dame upset Army at the Polo Grounds
1936-37 - Fordham "Seven Blocks of Granite" squads
1944-45 - Army wins back to back national championships
1952 - NYU drops football
1954 - Fordham drops football
1956 - Ivy League formally begins play. Columbia and other members deemphasize athletics (to the extent they had not already)
1958 - Army coach Red Blaik retires after undefeated season in which the Cadets finished #3 in the AP
1964 - Last Army game at old Yankee Stadium (Syracuse d. Army 27-15, Att. 37,552)

Prior to the separation of Division 1 into D1-A and D1-AA, Rutgers played primarily an Ivy League type schedule. For instance, its undefeated 1976 squad played Bucknell, Princeton, Cornell, UConn (still in the Yankee Conference), Lehigh, Columbia, UMass and Colgate. Its most challenging opponents were Navy, Louisville and Tulane. The establishment of D1-A in 1978 forced them to drop most of their traditional rivals and schedule other 1-A opponents.