(07-04-2014 03:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  last season CUSA distributed 24.5 million dollars to 14 teams...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehl...rence-usa/

the AAC distributed 72.3 Million to 10 teams...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehljf/6-american/

those numbers don't even include the 100 million dollar "war chest" to be distributed this cycle, which started July 1st. (split 60-40 old/new schools)

CUSA folks will ask "what about next season without your AQ bid?"

the AAC posters already did the math on that...

2014-15 Revenue

Football Playoff
11M guaranteed ($1M per school)
$4.5M, $6M or $7.5M for being the 3rd, 2nd or best G5 conference
$6M if our champ gets picked

Other Football Bowls
Approximately $4M

NCAA Tournament
2015 Units - ?? (assume range of 5 to 10 units)
2014 Units - 11 (you incorrectly counted 9 and so your total of 63 is off by 2)
2013 Units - 12
2012 Units - 17
2011 Units - 14
2010 Units - 11
65 + 5-10 units
$255,379/unit
$17.9M minimum

TV
$22M

Total: $59.4M to $69.7M depending on how well we do in football and basketball.

Game. Set. Match.

This is why I call our ADs incompetent. A few years of AAC money would more than pay for the facilities improvements / coaches salaries that would have gotten us in. It's just a question of securing financing. I guess it's easier to just hire cheap and let our facilities decay. God, what a joke of a college... just a collection of rednecks getting what they deserve.

(07-04-2014 03:46 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 03:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  last season CUSA distributed 24.5 million dollars to 14 teams...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehl...rence-usa/

the AAC distributed 72.3 Million to 10 teams...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehljf/6-american/

those numbers don't even include the 100 million dollar "war chest" to be distributed this cycle, which started July 1st. (split 60-40 old/new schools)

CUSA folks will ask "what about next season without your AQ bid?"

the AAC posters already did the math on that...

2014-15 Revenue

Football Playoff
11M guaranteed ($1M per school)
$4.5M, $6M or $7.5M for being the 3rd, 2nd or best G5 conference
$6M if our champ gets picked

Other Football Bowls
Approximately $4M

NCAA Tournament
2015 Units - ?? (assume range of 5 to 10 units)
2014 Units - 11 (you incorrectly counted 9 and so your total of 63 is off by 2)
2013 Units - 12
2012 Units - 17
2011 Units - 14
2010 Units - 11
65 + 5-10 units
$255,379/unit
$17.9M minimum

TV
$22M

Total: $59.4M to $69.7M depending on how well we do in football and basketball.

Game. Set. Match.

This is why I call our ADs incompetent. A few years of AAC money would more than pay for the facilities improvements / coaches salaries that would have gotten us in. It's just a question of securing financing. I guess it's easier to just hire cheap and let our facilities decay. God, what a joke of a college... just a collection of rednecks getting what they deserve.

I doubt the tune will change but your about to get served a nice portion of crow.

(07-04-2014 10:43 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 01:14 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-03-2014 10:55 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-03-2014 10:26 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-03-2014 10:10 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  CUSA 2.0 was pretty close in strength to the BE as was shown by the fact that Cincinnati, USF and Louisville could go right out of CUSA and into the Big East and be so strong. UCF also showed how close in strength that CUSA was to the Big East.

CUSA 3.0 is no where near the strenght of the AAC in football, because the Sun Belt conference from which most of CUSA 3.0 originates was never, ever at any point nealy as good as CUSA 2.0, which is where most of the AAC schools come from.

You're hilarious, what happened to all the talk of budgets? That was your metric, not mine, and now you're just all over the place. Cincy, USF and Louisville were all CUSA 1.0 not CUSA 2.0, furthermore 5/14 CUSA 3.0 members came from the Sun Belt, but I supose it's possible you have a different definition of "most" than I do.

The gaps from the former Big East to CUSA 2.0 and from CUSA 2.0 to the Sun Belt were not "huge" and now the gaps from AAC to CUSA 3.0 and CUSA 3.0 to the SBC have narrowed further.

And for all your talk of budgets, you still haven't provided any actual number for any school, but if you think the budgets of CUSA 2.0 were closer to the budgets of the former Big East, than the budgets of CUSA 3.0 are to the budgets of the AAC, you're high off your ass.

The budgets of the top CUSA 2.0 schools were not significantly below the budgets of the Big East schools. Have you actually looked at the budgets of UCF, Houston, Memphis and ECU in comparison to USF and Cincinnati? UConn, Syracuse and Rutgers had higher numbers, but Louisville had high numbers and they were a CUSA school. The CUSA 3.0 members (aka Sun Belt members) budgets are more in line with teams on the bottom portion of CUSA, which points to their level of comparison.

I am sorry that offends you. I find it hilarious that folks still think that the leagues are all that close. Folks were just saying similar stuff just a few onths ago about the basketball teams in the two leagues.

I am in the middle of a black out right now and have been unable to answer yoor other points.

Well at least you have an excuse for calling Louisville, Cincy and USF CUSA 2.0 members.

I think you're underestimating the budgets of the former SBC members. Just as in CUSA 2.0 there was a large disparity between the top and bottom of the conference, the same goes for the Sun Belt, we weren't ULM or Troy. FAU at $24.5M is the only one below $27M.

UCONN and Cincy are the only two programs dramatically higher than the bulk of CUSA, it was a much bigger jump from CUSA 2.0 to the likes of Louisville, UCONN, Pitt, Cuse, Cincy, Rutgers.

Are we seriously having this conversation?

I never called Louisville, Cincinnati and USF CUSA 2.0 members. My point was that the top members of CUSA 2.0 had to be pretty close to the BE in strength if Louisville, Cincinnati and USF (which were members of CUSA 1.0) could go into the BE and be competitive right away. The schools could do that because they had the budgets to do that. UCF could do that as well in the next expansion cycle because they had the budgets to do it.

The Sun Belt schools entering CUSA and the CUSA schools that remained in CUSA; don't have the budgets to make CUSA 3.0 as competitive as the AAC. Here were the last set of budgets that I saw and you will notice where your league members are and where the AAC league members are.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/s.../finances/

Wow.

You are really terrible at this.

Just as I said, CUSA 3.0 is closer to the AAC than CUSA 2.0 was to the Big East. The gap is "huge" though, right?

(07-04-2014 07:41 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 03:46 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 03:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  last season CUSA distributed 24.5 million dollars to 14 teams...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehl...rence-usa/

the AAC distributed 72.3 Million to 10 teams...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehljf/6-american/

those numbers don't even include the 100 million dollar "war chest" to be distributed this cycle, which started July 1st. (split 60-40 old/new schools)

CUSA folks will ask "what about next season without your AQ bid?"

the AAC posters already did the math on that...

2014-15 Revenue

Football Playoff
11M guaranteed ($1M per school)
$4.5M, $6M or $7.5M for being the 3rd, 2nd or best G5 conference
$6M if our champ gets picked

Other Football Bowls
Approximately $4M

NCAA Tournament
2015 Units - ?? (assume range of 5 to 10 units)
2014 Units - 11 (you incorrectly counted 9 and so your total of 63 is off by 2)
2013 Units - 12
2012 Units - 17
2011 Units - 14
2010 Units - 11
65 + 5-10 units
$255,379/unit
$17.9M minimum

TV
$22M

Total: $59.4M to $69.7M depending on how well we do in football and basketball.

Game. Set. Match.

This is why I call our ADs incompetent. A few years of AAC money would more than pay for the facilities improvements / coaches salaries that would have gotten us in. It's just a question of securing financing. I guess it's easier to just hire cheap and let our facilities decay. God, what a joke of a college... just a collection of rednecks getting what they deserve.

I doubt the tune will change but your about to get served a nice portion of crow.

Let me know when it happens. I can't imagine anything significant happening at USM in the next 10 years, but we may differ on what "significant" means.

(07-04-2014 09:57 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 07:41 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 03:46 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 03:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  last season CUSA distributed 24.5 million dollars to 14 teams...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehl...rence-usa/

the AAC distributed 72.3 Million to 10 teams...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehljf/6-american/

those numbers don't even include the 100 million dollar "war chest" to be distributed this cycle, which started July 1st. (split 60-40 old/new schools)

CUSA folks will ask "what about next season without your AQ bid?"

the AAC posters already did the math on that...

2014-15 Revenue

Football Playoff
11M guaranteed ($1M per school)
$4.5M, $6M or $7.5M for being the 3rd, 2nd or best G5 conference
$6M if our champ gets picked

Other Football Bowls
Approximately $4M

NCAA Tournament
2015 Units - ?? (assume range of 5 to 10 units)
2014 Units - 11 (you incorrectly counted 9 and so your total of 63 is off by 2)
2013 Units - 12
2012 Units - 17
2011 Units - 14
2010 Units - 11
65 + 5-10 units
$255,379/unit
$17.9M minimum

TV
$22M

Total: $59.4M to $69.7M depending on how well we do in football and basketball.

Game. Set. Match.

This is why I call our ADs incompetent. A few years of AAC money would more than pay for the facilities improvements / coaches salaries that would have gotten us in. It's just a question of securing financing. I guess it's easier to just hire cheap and let our facilities decay. God, what a joke of a college... just a collection of rednecks getting what they deserve.

I doubt the tune will change but your about to get served a nice portion of crow.

Let me know when it happens. I can't imagine anything significant happening at USM in the next 10 years, but we may differ on what "significant" means.

How about the total gutting and refurbishing of reed greed and a practice facility for basketball. Im sure that wont be significant in your eyes, but it is about to be a reality in the very near future. Courtesy of the ad you claim knows and does nothing.

(07-05-2014 02:33 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 09:57 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 07:41 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 03:46 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 03:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  last season CUSA distributed 24.5 million dollars to 14 teams...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehl...rence-usa/

the AAC distributed 72.3 Million to 10 teams...

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/emdm45ehljf/6-american/

those numbers don't even include the 100 million dollar "war chest" to be distributed this cycle, which started July 1st. (split 60-40 old/new schools)

CUSA folks will ask "what about next season without your AQ bid?"

the AAC posters already did the math on that...

2014-15 Revenue

Football Playoff
11M guaranteed ($1M per school)
$4.5M, $6M or $7.5M for being the 3rd, 2nd or best G5 conference
$6M if our champ gets picked

Other Football Bowls
Approximately $4M

NCAA Tournament
2015 Units - ?? (assume range of 5 to 10 units)
2014 Units - 11 (you incorrectly counted 9 and so your total of 63 is off by 2)
2013 Units - 12
2012 Units - 17
2011 Units - 14
2010 Units - 11
65 + 5-10 units
$255,379/unit
$17.9M minimum

TV
$22M

Total: $59.4M to $69.7M depending on how well we do in football and basketball.

Game. Set. Match.

This is why I call our ADs incompetent. A few years of AAC money would more than pay for the facilities improvements / coaches salaries that would have gotten us in. It's just a question of securing financing. I guess it's easier to just hire cheap and let our facilities decay. God, what a joke of a college... just a collection of rednecks getting what they deserve.

I doubt the tune will change but your about to get served a nice portion of crow.

Let me know when it happens. I can't imagine anything significant happening at USM in the next 10 years, but we may differ on what "significant" means.

How about the total gutting and refurbishing of reed greed and a practice facility for basketball. Im sure that wont be significant in your eyes, but it is about to be a reality in the very near future. Courtesy of the ad you claim knows and does nothing.

There's no way to make that facility adequate for a move out of the Slum Belt. It's not possible to hang anything from the roof, which is apparently made out of old Temple Baptist Church newsletters held together with spit and sealing wax. Even if we do the right thing and build a new arena, it's years too late, if not decades.

Everyone knows these things. Some of us admit them.

(07-05-2014 06:17 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 02:33 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 09:57 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 07:41 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 03:46 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  This is why I call our ADs incompetent. A few years of AAC money would more than pay for the facilities improvements / coaches salaries that would have gotten us in. It's just a question of securing financing. I guess it's easier to just hire cheap and let our facilities decay. God, what a joke of a college... just a collection of rednecks getting what they deserve.

I doubt the tune will change but your about to get served a nice portion of crow.

Let me know when it happens. I can't imagine anything significant happening at USM in the next 10 years, but we may differ on what "significant" means.

How about the total gutting and refurbishing of reed greed and a practice facility for basketball. Im sure that wont be significant in your eyes, but it is about to be a reality in the very near future. Courtesy of the ad you claim knows and does nothing.

There's no way to make that facility adequate for a move out of the Slum Belt. It's not possible to hang anything from the roof, which is apparently made out of old Temple Baptist Church newsletters held together with spit and sealing wax. Even if we do the right thing and build a new arena, it's years too late, if not decades.

Everyone knows these things. Some of us admit them.

Wrong once again so you will change the tune. Yea something will be hung from the center. Scoreboards are much lighter weight these days. Plus that was nothing but a rumor. Ga Tech has the exact same building, same blueprints and they totally renovated it. When its announced SOON you wont crap a solid turd for a week.

Is this wishful thinking, or do you KNOW this to be fact? Please say fact.
Lie to me if you have to... lol.

(07-04-2014 11:28 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Chit, another damn thread to invite those freakin's ECU folks.

Yep. When do the tiresome ECU posters leave? Their shtick of returning just to belittle their old neighborhood is sad.

(07-05-2014 06:52 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 06:17 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(07-05-2014 02:33 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 09:57 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(07-04-2014 07:41 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  I doubt the tune will change but your about to get served a nice portion of crow.

Let me know when it happens. I can't imagine anything significant happening at USM in the next 10 years, but we may differ on what "significant" means.

How about the total gutting and refurbishing of reed greed and a practice facility for basketball. Im sure that wont be significant in your eyes, but it is about to be a reality in the very near future. Courtesy of the ad you claim knows and does nothing.

There's no way to make that facility adequate for a move out of the Slum Belt. It's not possible to hang anything from the roof, which is apparently made out of old Temple Baptist Church newsletters held together with spit and sealing wax. Even if we do the right thing and build a new arena, it's years too late, if not decades.

Everyone knows these things. Some of us admit them.

Wrong once again so you will change the tune. Yea something will be hung from the center. Scoreboards are much lighter weight these days. Plus that was nothing but a rumor. Ga Tech has the exact same building, same blueprints and they totally renovated it. When its announced SOON you wont crap a solid turd for a week.

Georgia Tech's arena has a steel supported roof. It's otherwise similar to Reed Green (less so since they renovated it a few years ago).