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(07-02-2013 12:56 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  I think it will be St. Louis as #11 and Dayton as #12. Richmond could contend based on its desirable TV market and recent NCAA tournament success (Sweet 16 in 2011), but I give Dayton the edge due to its larger arena, higher attendance and Catholic affiliation. I don't think VCU fits the conference profile.

I think this is about right: SLU as soon as the New Big East decides to expand to 12, then Dayton on the inside track and Richmond on the outside.

While FS1/FS2 will want the extra inventory, its only useful inventory if people will tune in to watch the teams play. If the New Big East plays an 18 game conference schedule, many of the bigger matchups can be retained Home and Away with twelve schools, since each school would play half the conference on a home and away basis. Go beyond that, and the loss of quality in the inventory starts to offset the increase in quantity.

Good news for Dayton includes the fact that the secondary sports that would have given Richmond an additional edge seem to be getting separate solutions, like Denver for Lacrosse.

So the problem Dayton has is travel partners. By having clear travel partners you can dramatically cut costs in minor sports. The article on Creighton speaks to the importance of cost containment in non revenue sports.

I think a Richmond or Siena gets in before Dayton (assuming the stay private) because they pair with an eastern team to form clear travel partners in the east while Dayton doesn't easily pair with anyone in the east. Dayton did pair well with Xavier but Butler kind of took their spot.

I agree that one of the issues with Dayton is the travel partner problem. Richmond would be much easier to pair with an eastern member (Georgetown being the obvious choice), and I almost gave Richmond the edge for that specific reason.

But I couldn't ignore the fact that Dayton routinely puts 12,000-plus fans in the seats for its games. That's about double Richmond's attendance and for that reason I see Dayton being the preferred choice.

Dayton to me was in competition with Butler. Interesting Brad waited until after the announcement to announce he was leaving for the Celtics. Had this happened 4 months ago Dayton might have gotten Butlers spot.

Please, just stop. You have zero idea of what you are talking about. The conference is not choosing schools based on who the coach is right this minute.
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(07-03-2013 07:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
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(07-03-2013 01:00 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  I think this is about right: SLU as soon as the New Big East decides to expand to 12, then Dayton on the inside track and Richmond on the outside.

While FS1/FS2 will want the extra inventory, its only useful inventory if people will tune in to watch the teams play. If the New Big East plays an 18 game conference schedule, many of the bigger matchups can be retained Home and Away with twelve schools, since each school would play half the conference on a home and away basis. Go beyond that, and the loss of quality in the inventory starts to offset the increase in quantity.

Good news for Dayton includes the fact that the secondary sports that would have given Richmond an additional edge seem to be getting separate solutions, like Denver for Lacrosse.

So the problem Dayton has is travel partners. By having clear travel partners you can dramatically cut costs in minor sports. The article on Creighton speaks to the importance of cost containment in non revenue sports.

I think a Richmond or Siena gets in before Dayton (assuming the stay private) because they pair with an eastern team to form clear travel partners in the east while Dayton doesn't easily pair with anyone in the east. Dayton did pair well with Xavier but Butler kind of took their spot.

I agree that one of the issues with Dayton is the travel partner problem. Richmond would be much easier to pair with an eastern member (Georgetown being the obvious choice), and I almost gave Richmond the edge for that specific reason.

But I couldn't ignore the fact that Dayton routinely puts 12,000-plus fans in the seats for its games. That's about double Richmond's attendance and for that reason I see Dayton being the preferred choice.

Dayton to me was in competition with Butler. Interesting Brad waited until after the announcement to announce he was leaving for the Celtics. Had this happened 4 months ago Dayton might have gotten Butlers spot.

Please, just stop. You have zero idea of what you are talking about. The conference is not choosing schools based on who the coach is right this minute.

Your right I am sure Butler's dominance of the Horizon league clinched the deal no matter what.
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(07-03-2013 08:17 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 07:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 06:04 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
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(07-03-2013 04:42 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  So the problem Dayton has is travel partners. By having clear travel partners you can dramatically cut costs in minor sports. The article on Creighton speaks to the importance of cost containment in non revenue sports.

I think a Richmond or Siena gets in before Dayton (assuming the stay private) because they pair with an eastern team to form clear travel partners in the east while Dayton doesn't easily pair with anyone in the east. Dayton did pair well with Xavier but Butler kind of took their spot.

I agree that one of the issues with Dayton is the travel partner problem. Richmond would be much easier to pair with an eastern member (Georgetown being the obvious choice), and I almost gave Richmond the edge for that specific reason.

But I couldn't ignore the fact that Dayton routinely puts 12,000-plus fans in the seats for its games. That's about double Richmond's attendance and for that reason I see Dayton being the preferred choice.

Dayton to me was in competition with Butler. Interesting Brad waited until after the announcement to announce he was leaving for the Celtics. Had this happened 4 months ago Dayton might have gotten Butlers spot.

Please, just stop. You have zero idea of what you are talking about. The conference is not choosing schools based on who the coach is right this minute.

Your right I am sure Butler's dominance of the Horizon league clinched the deal no matter what.

Ugh yes, and Siena is actually in contention for a spot in the Big East. 01-wingedeagle
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RE: New Big East Expansion
(07-03-2013 08:22 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 08:17 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 07:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
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(07-03-2013 05:23 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  I agree that one of the issues with Dayton is the travel partner problem. Richmond would be much easier to pair with an eastern member (Georgetown being the obvious choice), and I almost gave Richmond the edge for that specific reason.

But I couldn't ignore the fact that Dayton routinely puts 12,000-plus fans in the seats for its games. That's about double Richmond's attendance and for that reason I see Dayton being the preferred choice.

Dayton to me was in competition with Butler. Interesting Brad waited until after the announcement to announce he was leaving for the Celtics. Had this happened 4 months ago Dayton might have gotten Butlers spot.

Please, just stop. You have zero idea of what you are talking about. The conference is not choosing schools based on who the coach is right this minute.

Your right I am sure Butler's dominance of the Horizon league clinched the deal no matter what.

Ugh yes, and Siena is actually in contention for a spot in the Big East. 01-wingedeagle

I don't believe Siena is in contention but unlike you I don't make my main contribution to the board attempting to belittle others. If Siena is in competition for a spot it would be for a spot in the east in competition with VCU and Richmond.
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(07-03-2013 08:43 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
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(07-03-2013 08:17 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 07:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 06:04 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  Dayton to me was in competition with Butler. Interesting Brad waited until after the announcement to announce he was leaving for the Celtics. Had this happened 4 months ago Dayton might have gotten Butlers spot.

Please, just stop. You have zero idea of what you are talking about. The conference is not choosing schools based on who the coach is right this minute.

Your right I am sure Butler's dominance of the Horizon league clinched the deal no matter what.

Ugh yes, and Siena is actually in contention for a spot in the Big East. 01-wingedeagle

I don't believe Siena is in contention but unlike you I don't make my main contribution to the board attempting to belittle others. If Siena is in competition for a spot it would be for a spot in the east in competition with VCU and Richmond.

Thats my main contribution? I'm sorry, i should go onto other conferences boards and speak confidently on the little i know of each conference and then call those who have been following the conference for YEARS clueless if they disagree with my off the wall ideas.

Is that contributing?
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RE: New Big East Expansion
(07-03-2013 09:06 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 08:43 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 08:22 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
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(07-03-2013 07:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Please, just stop. You have zero idea of what you are talking about. The conference is not choosing schools based on who the coach is right this minute.

Your right I am sure Butler's dominance of the Horizon league clinched the deal no matter what.

Ugh yes, and Siena is actually in contention for a spot in the Big East. 01-wingedeagle

I don't believe Siena is in contention but unlike you I don't make my main contribution to the board attempting to belittle others. If Siena is in competition for a spot it would be for a spot in the east in competition with VCU and Richmond.

Thats my main contribution? I'm sorry, i should go onto other conferences boards and speak confidently on the little i know of each conference and then call those who have been following the conference for YEARS clueless if they disagree with my off the wall ideas.

Is that contributing?

The importance of travel partners and the need to sharply control costs in non-revenue sports is hardly off the wall. And while you may think the Big East is rolling in cash and can simply easily fly from one city to another I have first hand experience that isn't the case even in the current model. When you have first hand experience you can talk.
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(07-03-2013 09:58 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 09:06 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 08:43 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 08:22 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 08:17 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  Your right I am sure Butler's dominance of the Horizon league clinched the deal no matter what.

Ugh yes, and Siena is actually in contention for a spot in the Big East. 01-wingedeagle

I don't believe Siena is in contention but unlike you I don't make my main contribution to the board attempting to belittle others. If Siena is in competition for a spot it would be for a spot in the east in competition with VCU and Richmond.

Thats my main contribution? I'm sorry, i should go onto other conferences boards and speak confidently on the little i know of each conference and then call those who have been following the conference for YEARS clueless if they disagree with my off the wall ideas.

Is that contributing?

The importance of travel partners and the need to sharply control costs in non-revenue sports is hardly off the wall. And while you may think the Big East is rolling in cash and can simply easily fly from one city to another I have first hand experience that isn't the case even in the current model. When you have first hand experience you can talk.

You have first hand experience with the Big East? Clearly it isn't as big a concern as you make it out to be if they invited Creighton. When we were making LESS money we weren't busing our teams all over the country but now we will in a smaller geographic footprint?

Oh and inviting Seina or making travel partners the most important part of expansion are off the wall ideas.
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(07-03-2013 03:12 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  I can see Wichita State joining the Big East someday, even if they are a public school. No football to speak of means they are 100% devoted to basketball.
I think private school is the first cut, so I'm not including Wichita State or VCU as in the running.

(07-03-2013 04:42 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  So the problem Dayton has is travel partners. By having clear travel partners you can dramatically cut costs in minor sports. The article on Creighton speaks to the importance of cost containment in non revenue sports.
The problem with raising travel partners as a generic issue is there are different schools playing in different minor sports.

Also, travel issues in minor sports clearly are not the main driving force given that the New Big East added Denver for Lacrosse.
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RE: New Big East Expansion
(07-04-2013 11:41 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 09:58 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 09:06 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 08:43 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 08:22 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Ugh yes, and Siena is actually in contention for a spot in the Big East. 01-wingedeagle

I don't believe Siena is in contention but unlike you I don't make my main contribution to the board attempting to belittle others. If Siena is in competition for a spot it would be for a spot in the east in competition with VCU and Richmond.

Thats my main contribution? I'm sorry, i should go onto other conferences boards and speak confidently on the little i know of each conference and then call those who have been following the conference for YEARS clueless if they disagree with my off the wall ideas.

Is that contributing?

The importance of travel partners and the need to sharply control costs in non-revenue sports is hardly off the wall. And while you may think the Big East is rolling in cash and can simply easily fly from one city to another I have first hand experience that isn't the case even in the current model. When you have first hand experience you can talk.

You have first hand experience with the Big East? Clearly it isn't as big a concern as you make it out to be if they invited Creighton. When we were maiking LESS money we weren't busing our teams all over the country but now we will in a smaller geographic footprint?

Oh and inviting Seina or making travel partners the most important part of expansion are off the wall ideas.

Yes I do and no one said it was the primary factor. I said it was a factor.
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(07-04-2013 01:19 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 03:12 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  I can see Wichita State joining the Big East someday, even if they are a public school. No football to speak of means they are 100% devoted to basketball.
I think private school is the first cut, so I'm not including Wichita State or VCU as in the running.

(07-03-2013 04:42 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  So the problem Dayton has is travel partners. By having clear travel partners you can dramatically cut costs in minor sports. The article on Creighton speaks to the importance of cost containment in non revenue sports.
The problem with raising travel partners as a generic issue is there are different schools playing in different minor sports.

Also, travel issues in minor sports clearly are not the main driving force given that the New Big East added Denver for Lacrosse.

Sure every school has a range of sports and as an all sports participant the impact can be different. If Dayton had VCU type success their issues from a travel standpoint might be overlooked but they don't.
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(07-04-2013 02:06 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  Sure every school has a range of sports and as an all sports participant the impact can be different. If Dayton had VCU type success their issues from a travel standpoint might be overlooked but they don't.
But the claim is being made based on nothing more than the location of the 12 members, as if that applies for each and every minor sport.

The fact is that most of the New Big East's minor sports will have fewer than 12 members. As an FCS football school, Dayton will be more heavily represented in women's subsidized sports and more lightly represented in men's, and it could well be that between Butler and X, Dayton would have a natural travel partner in a number of the New Big East sports where that is a relevant concern.
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(07-04-2013 05:19 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-04-2013 02:06 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  Sure every school has a range of sports and as an all sports participant the impact can be different. If Dayton had VCU type success their issues from a travel standpoint might be overlooked but they don't.
But the claim is being made based on nothing more than the location of the 12 members, as if that applies for [b]each and every[/i] minor sports.

The fact is that most of the New Big East's minor sports will have fewer than 12 members. As an FCS football school, Dayton will be more heavily represented in women's subsidized sports and more lightly represented in men's, and it could well be that between Butler and X, Dayton would have a natural travel partner in a number of the New Big East sports where that is a relevant concern.

Well thats the thing, if travel was such a concern then why on earth would they add a school thats farther away and even harder to get to than every other member?
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(07-02-2013 08:16 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
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(07-02-2013 12:38 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  There is a better chance of finding myself in a threesome with Emma Stone and Anna Farris than Fordham finding itself in the Big East. 01-wingedeagle03-lmfao

Seriously, I have been following this very very closely from the get go. Their are only 4 realistic options out there.

Saint Louis (not St. Louis as I have learned)
Dayton
Richmond
VCU

Saint Louis fits like a glove culturally and geographically, while giving us a great new market.

Dayton has GREAT fan support. They would be third in attendance in the league. They love BBall in Dayton, one of the reasons they have been awarded the first four annually.

Richmond is a nice eastern private school that has a tremendous endowment of just under 2 BILLION. Yes, with a B. If we want to go east they are very much in the mix.

VCU doesn't have the endowment that Richmond has and is public, but they do have the basketball chops and are investing heavily in it's program.

Gonzaga is to far west and Wichita doesn't fit in the league at all.

That is this posters opinion and others don't agree. The case for Wichita is made stronger by:

1) the fact they already added Creighton who desperately needs a travel partner

2) they have by far the best all around sports program of all the schools mentioned by annually being in the top 100 of the Director's Cup standings. The other schools, not names VCU, struggle to make the top 200.

3) They are the most recent team to play in a final four and their TV will increase substantially because of it. It was already second to only VCU.

The institutional purists might not like but I wouldn't be surprised if Fox demands we take VCU and Wichita State. They are both needed not only for the basketball but for the Olympic sports Fox will televise.

I think you might be the only one here pushing WSU. Creighton DOES NOT need a travel partner, Wichita is not even easy to get to. Saint Louis would be a better travel partner. It's pretty clear that the Presidents of the 10 schools are looking for like minded institutions. Wichita really has nothing in common with any of the Big East schools. IF, and it's a big IF the Big East were to select a public school, it would either be UCONN (if they got rid of football and I doubt that happens) or VCU because it's on the east coast.

You lost all credibility when you said Creighton does not need a travel partner. Have you seen any of the minor sports schedules. Let me give you a clue, Creighton in stuck on like a sore thumb to the schedules. The teams such as volleyball play back to back on Friday and Saturday to save money. In the case of Creighton they play Friday, Saturday and Creighton on Sunday.

St. Louis might be an okay travel partner but it is 2 hours further away than Wichita State. When you are leaving on a Friday night or Saturday morning to bus to the next game that 2 hours can matter.

Whether you like it or not the points I have raised are facts. Try disputing them with facts of your own.
Saint Louis is closer to all the other Big East schools, so who cares... they chose Creighton, so that's their problem.
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(07-03-2013 04:01 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  Tell you want, if my daughters volleyball team flies between any current travel pair in the big east I will send you a check for $100. if they bus or van between them all you owe me a check for $50. I can tell you not a single team flew from St. Louis to Indy last year when Butler and St Louis where travel partners.

That was in the A-10.
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(07-03-2013 09:58 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  And while you may think the Big East is rolling in cash and can simply easily fly from one city to another I have first hand experience that isn't the case even in the current model. When you have first hand experience you can talk.

You know that Butler wasn't in the Big East for 2012-13, right?
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(07-02-2013 08:16 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  You lost all credibility when you said Creighton does not need a travel partner. Have you seen any of the minor sports schedules. Let me give you a clue, Creighton in stuck on like a sore thumb to the schedules. The teams such as volleyball play back to back on Friday and Saturday to save money. In the case of Creighton they play Friday, Saturday and Creighton on Sunday.

What do you mean? Creighton's Big East women's volleyball schedule is up. http://www.gocreighton.com/SportSelect.d...PSID=89416

Oh, I finally think I see what you mean. Creighton's road trips are all Friday-Saturday, while the home stands are all Friday-Sunday. So it looks like if you're playing at Creighton, Saturday is a travel day.

Is that the big problem? That they have to have a travel day?
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(07-04-2013 05:19 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-04-2013 02:06 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  Sure every school has a range of sports and as an all sports participant the impact can be different. If Dayton had VCU type success their issues from a travel standpoint might be overlooked but they don't.
But the claim is being made based on nothing more than the location of the 12 members, as if that applies for each and every minor sport.

The fact is that most of the New Big East's minor sports will have fewer than 12 members. As an FCS football school, Dayton will be more heavily represented in women's subsidized sports and more lightly represented in men's, and it could well be that between Butler and X, Dayton would have a natural travel partner in a number of the New Big East sports where that is a relevant concern.

That is a fair point. It is possible that Dayton could uniquely plug in although remember most leagues have sports beyond just basketball that everyone is required to play. I can't say for sure if that would be true for the big east. I know they all play volleyball (some weird issues with Providence) and I suspect they all have track. But it would be worth looking at it in depth which I am sure they will do.
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(07-05-2013 05:35 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(07-02-2013 08:16 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  You lost all credibility when you said Creighton does not need a travel partner. Have you seen any of the minor sports schedules. Let me give you a clue, Creighton in stuck on like a sore thumb to the schedules. The teams such as volleyball play back to back on Friday and Saturday to save money. In the case of Creighton they play Friday, Saturday and Creighton on Sunday.

What do you mean? Creighton's Big East women's volleyball schedule is up. http://www.gocreighton.com/SportSelect.d...PSID=89416

Oh, I finally think I see what you mean. Creighton's road trips are all Friday-Saturday, while the home stands are all Friday-Sunday. So it looks like if you're playing at Creighton, Saturday is a travel day.

Is that the big problem? That they have to have a travel day?

No travel day associated with at Creighton. Since they don't have a travel partner it is all one and done for the weekend which is why they must do it Friday - Sunday at Creighton to give them a day's rest. I don't know why however since Creighton has an advantage on the road trips.

For example, Butler plays St. John's and Seton Hall at home on Friday and Saturday. All three are middle of the pack teams that could easily go five games. Creighton then rolls in on Sunday when Butler will likely be toast. Marquette will have no such luck as they will have to play Xavier on Friday travel to Butler and play Butler on Saturday. Creighton not having a realistic travel partner significantly impacts the schedule.

Generally most leagues have a travel day in between games to rest and recover their legs. But the Big East has chosen to make them play back to back. The league is also only allowing four teams into the league tournament when even the cheapest leagues typically do six. For some reason they are in significant cost savings mode.
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RE: New Big East Expansion
(07-05-2013 05:17 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 09:58 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  And while you may think the Big East is rolling in cash and can simply easily fly from one city to another I have first hand experience that isn't the case even in the current model. When you have first hand experience you can talk.

You know that Butler wasn't in the Big East for 2012-13, right?

As I think you are seeing I am talking about the current schedule which looks like the league is run by the little sisters of the poor. Even the Horizon league played Thursday Saturday or Friday Sunday. Even the Horizon league sent 6 teams to the conference tournament and not 4. Butler while in the Horizon league sent their team to CA to play because it enabled better recruiting. This year they go to U of Arizona because they are paying them to come.

Why the severe cost cutting in volleyball? My only guess is expenses for basketball are forcing them to cut where they can. They can't reduce scholarship costs due to Title IX so they cut where they can which is in travel costs. That is why travel partners will be an issue. Not the issue but clearly an issue.
07-06-2013 01:18 AM
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RE: New Big East Expansion
(07-05-2013 05:14 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 04:01 PM)Sactowndog Wrote:  Tell you want, if my daughters volleyball team flies between any current travel pair in the big east I will send you a check for $100. if they bus or van between them all you owe me a check for $50. I can tell you not a single team flew from St. Louis to Indy last year when Butler and St Louis where travel partners.

That was in the A-10.

And the Big East is putting less money into travel than in the A-10. As the tables become higher stakes in basketball the money gets less in minor sports unless you are a big 5 league awash in cash.
07-06-2013 01:21 AM
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