The ACC won't fill the bowls. If the bowl teams must be at .500 or better, many in the league will not play in a bowl. The ACC is not a strong football league. That will leave openings for leagues such as the AAC and MWC. Most likely, that's why Aresco is not too worried about the bowl process. At this point, I think the ACC is slightly ahead of the AAC in football. Not by much. Up and down both leagues from top to bottom, we are nearly as strong. A couple years from now the AAC will be even stronger.

(07-12-2013 04:57 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  1-Playoff/Orange/Access
1a-Capital one(when bigten is in orange bowl) Vs SEC
2-Russell Athletic Bowl Vs Big 12

POOL A:
3-Gator/Music City Bowl VS SEC
4-Belk Bowl VS SEC
5-Pinstripe Bowl VS B1G
6-Sun Bowl VS Pac 12

POOL B:
7-Independence Bowl VS SEC
8-Military Bowl VS AAC
9-Detroit Bowl VS B1G
10-St Pete Bowl(3 times in 6 years ) VS AAC

Where did you find that? Is that accurate? Looks pretty good if it is. That's 9 and 5/6ths of a bowl when you factor in the Cap One.

How high are those 2 bowls on the AAC side? 2 and 3?

(07-12-2013 05:30 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  The ACC won't fill the bowls. If the bowl teams must be at .500 or better, many in the league will not play in a bowl. The ACC is not a strong football league. That will leave openings for leagues such as the AAC and MWC. Most likely, that's why Aresco is not too worried about the bowl process. At this point, I think the ACC is slightly ahead of the AAC in football. Not by much. Up and down both leagues from top to bottom, we are nearly as strong. A couple years from now the AAC will be even stronger.

I disagree. The ACC filled 10 bowls a few years ago with 12 schools. Now we'll have 15 including ND who is almost guaranteed to go to a bowl every year under Kelly. The only reason we had so few last year was because 2 teams were serving sanctions and I expect Miami to get away with time served with their NCAA investigation.

If you consider how the ACC has been the last few years as being the best we can do, it's not that much different but I believe what you've seen from the ACC is the worst we're going to be. Miami still recruits in the top 10, FSU and Clemson are good again, UNC is as good as they've ever been, I expect VT to rebound and ND will continue to be great under Kelly. But let's not forget that the only top 10 team the AAC has is going to the ACC. That puts the ACC ahead of the AAC 3-0 in top programs based on last years rankings.

My biggest concerns are if the Military Bowl and St. Pete Bowl are bowls 1-2 for the AAC. The only decent bowl I heard was negotiating with the AAC was the Liberty and that bowl has since signed other conferences. I don't like the ACC's chances in our #8 and #10 bowls vs. 1-2 of the AAC.

8-Military Bowl VS AAC
9-Detroit Bowl VS B1G
10-St Pete Bowl(3 times in 6 years ) VS AAC

The last 6 years, the ACC + Pitt, Syracuse, ND has had 8, 11, 8, 12, 11, and 9 bowl-eligibles.

(07-12-2013 05:57 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 04:57 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  1-Playoff/Orange/Access
1a-Capital one(when bigten is in orange bowl) Vs SEC
2-Russell Athletic Bowl Vs Big 12

POOL A:
3-Gator/Music City Bowl VS SEC
4-Belk Bowl VS SEC
5-Pinstripe Bowl VS B1G
6-Sun Bowl VS Pac 12

POOL B:
7-Independence Bowl VS SEC
8-Military Bowl VS AAC
9-Detroit Bowl VS B1G
10-St Pete Bowl(3 times in 6 years ) VS AAC

Where did you find that? Is that accurate? Looks pretty good if it is. That's 9 and 5/6ths of a bowl when you factor in the Cap One.

How high are those 2 bowls on the AAC side? 2 and 3?

just guessing from twitters etc
military appears american 3-6 v ACC 7-10
haven't seen anything on independence-waiting for sec to announce bowls-

(07-04-2013 01:41 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Independence Bowl, 2 slots open
Birmingham Bowl looks like SEC vs AAC, but the SEC will need a backup
Detroit Bowl, 1 slot open for the ACC, probably needs a backup
Hawaii Bowl, 1 slot open vs MWC (Hawaii)
Armed Forces Bowl--both slots open at this point, but not for the ACC.
St Petersburg Bowl. 1 slot open vs AAC
New Orleans Bowl. 1 slot open vs Sun Belt
Poinsettia Bowl. 1 slot open vs MWC
New Mexico Bowl. 1 slot open, twitter(?) said CUSA
Idaho Potato Bowl, 1 slot open vs MWC
Mobile GoDaddy Bowl. 2 slots open, probably SBC vs MAC

AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE:
Independence Bowl, New Mexico Bowl, Poinsettia Bowl, Detroit Bowl

Only as a last resort:
Idaho Potato Bowl, GoDaddy Bowl, Hawaii Bowl

Would be nice:
New Orleans Bowl, Birmingham Bowl, St Pete Bowl


There really needs to be a bowl in Charleston, SC. And one in the Richmond/Norfolk/Tidewater area.

(07-12-2013 04:01 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(07-11-2013 06:46 PM)frank man Wrote:  i think the acc is screwed that is why they did not give there bowl tie in on the 8th they only have 7 bowl tie in and wanted 9 or 10.
i think the outher big 4 are pushing them around.
some even said sun would not re up with ACC. which would leave them with just 6 tie in.
if they dont end up with 9 you know they got screwed but not as bad as AAC
if they end up with 2 bowl agenest AAC they will show that they have been screwed and pushed around.

I think the ACC will be doing well to only have 2 AAC tie ins and no other Go5 tie ins. The only other bowl that I see available that could have and other P5 tie in is the independence bowl. The ACC has a history with them but what other p5 conference wants to go to Shrevport.

The biggest concern I have is if ACC teams 7-10 have to pair up with AAC 1-3. I don't like the ACC's chances with those pairings. Probably the 10 best Go5 schools besides Boise are in the AAC, so those top teams could be pretty good.

The AAC announcement said the military bowl would get the AAC's 3-6 pick (shared pool). I'm guessing the St Pete and Birmingham bowls will also be in that pool.