See you AAC, suck it!!






My bad, maybe a little too early on that.

Even if there is some conspiracy to get to 70, to suggest those schools are the "locks" is ludicrous. We will likely end up at 4 or 6 "power" conferences if there is a new division created, then you can have a true playoff. A P5 makes no sense in that regard...

(07-09-2013 03:50 PM)UHouston62 Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 03:05 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I heard it on good authority that the end game is 5 by 14. This is because the number 70 is the best number for P5 schools. Right now, ACC, B1G and SEC are set at 14 each. That leaves the PAC and the BigXII to get to 14. Here is how it should go down.

PAC14
Add BYU and Boise

BigXII
Add Memphis, ECU, Southern Miss and UCF

This will probably happen within the year.

You lost all credibility when you mentioned Memphis, ECU, Southern Miss and UCF to the Big 12. They have about as much fan appeal in Texas and Oklahoma as Cincinnati.

First of all, I don't believe anything from the OP, but I also think you don't understand how conference alignment works. This is all about grabbing new markets, not the ones you already have.

(07-09-2013 03:07 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Finally, now I can rest

Pony you better look again

Miko trolled er I mean said Southern Miss not Southern Methodist

Guess you can cry at the next pregame eating your double animal at In-n-Out Burger just off Lovers Lane.

(07-09-2013 05:11 PM)goofus Wrote:  I know we are just joking around and none of this is really going to happen, but if the PAC-12 and Big-12 was forced to go to 14, then I could see them holding their nose and taking a couple of schools based solely on their future potential.

So the logical candidates for the PAC-14 would be
UNLV, New Mexico, Hawaii, BYU or Boise

If they did go with BYU and Boise, the only way that could work is football only invites. No way BYU or Boise get full invites.

If they go with full invites, I could see UNLV and New Mexico getting the nod.

Also if the Big 12 was forced to expand to 14, then I believe they would have to make a choice once and for all, go east or go west. Whichever way they go, it will be a package deal. So lets look at the 2 packages.

East candidates
Cincy, UConn, USF, UCF or Memphis

West candidates
New Mexico, Colorado state, BYU, Boise or SDSU

But neither package quite works. So I could see combo with New Mexico, Cincy, USF getting full invites and BYU getting football only invite. if the Pac-12 takes New mexico or BYU first, then other team would be UCF.

If the Pac-12 is going to hold their nose and hope for potential growth, then they are going to grab at least one or two programs in Texas. Its the only state where there are enough potential residents to make sense to gamble like that. New Mexico, Nevada, Idaho, and Utah all have less than 3 million people. Texas has 26 million. If the Pac-12 holds their nose and takes non-AQ programs with some potential, Im guessing SMU and Houston would offer the biggest potential pay off for the Pac-12. My guess is the Pac-12 just sits patiently and hopes that the University of Texas makes a move west.

I hope Texas never moves west, or we make a push east before it happens.

SMU and Houston to the Pac 12 (Pac 14)
Cincinnati, Connecticut, Memphis, BYU to the Big 12 (Big 14)

The American adds Rice, North Texas, Missouri State, UMass, and Old Dominion for all sports, and Wichita State for all sports but football.

The MAC sends Mike Aresco a thank you note and stays at 12.

C-USA reloads only to 12, and adds James Madison.

The Sun Belt adds Army for football only, and promotes New Mexico State to all sports.

The Missouri Valley adds Green Bay and Milwaukee. The Horizon adds IUPUI, IPFW, and Western Illinois.

The WAC adds Omaha, Denver, NDSU, South Dakota, and South Dakota State to eliminate the Summit.

The CAA stays at 8 members, but rescues Monmouth football from the Big South to return to 12 there.

The only thing sillier than a Miko thread are posters responding seriously in them.

Bring back Tallgrass

Miko, you are so silly. The BigXII should only consider taking CSU, NM, Tulane and the Mormons if your sources are correct.

(07-09-2013 03:05 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I heard it on good authority that the end game is 5 by 14. This is because the number 70 is the best number for P5 schools. Right now, ACC, B1G and SEC are set at 14 each. That leaves the PAC and the BigXII to get to 14. Here is how it should go down.

PAC14
Add BYU and Boise

BigXII
Add Memphis, ECU, Southern Miss and UCF

This will probably happen within the year.

lulz

If the Pac-12 is going to hold their nose and hope for potential growth, then they are going to grab at least one or two programs in Texas. Its the only state where there are enough potential residents to make sense to gamble like that. New Mexico, Nevada, Idaho, and Utah all have less than 3 million people. Texas has 26 million. If the Pac-12 holds their nose and takes non-AQ programs with some potential, Im guessing SMU and Houston would offer the biggest potential pay off for the Pac-12. My guess is the Pac-12 just sits patiently and hopes that the University of Texas makes a move west.
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Houston maybe, but the pac does not want SMU for the same reason it did not want Baylor.

(07-09-2013 08:50 PM)goofus Wrote:  If the Pac-12 is going to hold their nose and hope for potential growth, then they are going to grab at least one or two programs in Texas. Its the only state where there are enough potential residents to make sense to gamble like that. New Mexico, Nevada, Idaho, and Utah all have less than 3 million people. Texas has 26 million. If the Pac-12 holds their nose and takes non-AQ programs with some potential, Im guessing SMU and Houston would offer the biggest potential pay off for the Pac-12. My guess is the Pac-12 just sits patiently and hopes that the University of Texas makes a move west.

Houston maybe, but the pac does not want SMU for the same reason it did not want Baylor.
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The PAC doesn't want us but SMU is not Baylor

Miko is out of his play pen again.

(07-09-2013 08:52 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 08:50 PM)goofus Wrote:  If the Pac-12 is going to hold their nose and hope for potential growth, then they are going to grab at least one or two programs in Texas. Its the only state where there are enough potential residents to make sense to gamble like that. New Mexico, Nevada, Idaho, and Utah all have less than 3 million people. Texas has 26 million. If the Pac-12 holds their nose and takes non-AQ programs with some potential, Im guessing SMU and Houston would offer the biggest potential pay off for the Pac-12. My guess is the Pac-12 just sits patiently and hopes that the University of Texas makes a move west.

Houston maybe, but the pac does not want SMU for the same reason it did not want Baylor.

The PAC doesn't want us but SMU is not Baylor
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Plus the whole idea of planning for growth is going to states that will grow. New Mexico and Nevada may be at 3M now but will be at 6M by year 2040 and Alberquerque and and las Vegas will be at 2M. Its where the pac will be eventually. They are just making the move 30 years earlier than they should.

(07-09-2013 04:09 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 03:12 PM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  Does Boise have the academics to cut it in the PAC 12?

First, welcome to the board! Second, use miko for entertainment purposes only.

No, Boise is not even in the stratosphere to join the PAC in terms of academics. They are not even considered a national university. If the PAC believed in Hell, they would say that BYU will join them when Hell freezes over. BYU believing that their could be a Hell to freeze over in the first place is why they will never be allowed to join the PAC. Been down that road in year's past. Not happening.

Also, expect to see ECU as the next member of the Big 12 and SEC, at least on this board. Yes, I did say the Big 12 AND the SEC. They have too much potential and too rabid a fan base to be contained within one conference. They will start the trend of dual conference membership, I'm sure.

You suck, but you may be on to something.

(07-09-2013 09:06 PM)goofus Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 08:52 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 08:50 PM)goofus Wrote:  If the Pac-12 is going to hold their nose and hope for potential growth, then they are going to grab at least one or two programs in Texas. Its the only state where there are enough potential residents to make sense to gamble like that. New Mexico, Nevada, Idaho, and Utah all have less than 3 million people. Texas has 26 million. If the Pac-12 holds their nose and takes non-AQ programs with some potential, Im guessing SMU and Houston would offer the biggest potential pay off for the Pac-12. My guess is the Pac-12 just sits patiently and hopes that the University of Texas makes a move west.

Houston maybe, but the pac does not want SMU for the same reason it did not want Baylor.

The PAC doesn't want us but SMU is not Baylor

Plus the whole idea of planning for growth is going to states that will grow. New Mexico and Nevada may be at 3M now but will be at 6M by year 2040 and Alberquerque and and las Vegas will be at 2M. Its where the pac will be eventually. They are just making the move 30 years earlier than they should.
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Texas is one of the fastest growing states in the nation. New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada will never be much larger than they are. Lack of water resources puts a cap on thier growth potential. States like that are not likely to ever be able to handle 20 million people.

(07-09-2013 05:58 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  Even if there is some conspiracy to get to 70, to suggest those schools are the "locks" is ludicrous. We will likely end up at 4 or 6 "power" conferences if there is a new division created, then you can have a true playoff. A P5 makes no sense in that regard...

This.

(07-09-2013 10:49 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 04:19 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-09-2013 03:05 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I heard it on good authority that the end game is 5 by 14. This is because the number 70 is the best number for P5 schools. Right now, ACC, B1G and SEC are set at 14 each. That leaves the PAC and the BigXII to get to 14. Here is how it should go down.

PAC14
Add BYU and Boise

BigXII
Add Memphis, ECU, Southern Miss and UCF

This will probably happen within the year.

More hot tips from the Orient...

No he had to take medication for that. Oh! Excuse me, you said tips.

(07-09-2013 03:05 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Add BYU and Boise

BigXII
Add Memphis, ECU, Southern Miss and UCF

This will probably happen within the year.

The PAC will not take BYU or Boise. They have passed on BYU for years and I don't see that ever changing.

Do Memphis, ECU, USM or UCF really want to be in a league without the Texoma 4 because that is the only way any of those 4 get an invite.

To be fair, this is coming from someone who thinks ECU should be in a power conference because they have a large, passionate fan base who donate to their University.