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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 02:04 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:47 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:31 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?
Kind of sidestepping Syracuse there? Likely to be some people who'd like to see Syracuse. Actually, likely to be some who'd like to see GTech ~ they have a lot of northeast coast alumni.

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Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

Why did you leave the Big East out of the title and your comment? I mean it's right there in the tweet, the Big East will also be shown.

Because it's bigger news about the ACC, which has never previously enjoyed any real presence in NYC. It also is an indication that an ACC Network may not be coming to pass. The Big East already enjoys a noticeable presence in NYC and that will likely continue. Don't feel slighted.

I don't think that this has any/much bearing on a future ACC Network.

Eh. Maybe or maybe not, but it is clear that instead of trying to buy back rights in an effort to consolidate them that more are being resold, making it potentially more expensive to buy back later. If there were pressing plans for a network, then I would think deals like this would not be happening as ESPN and the ACC would be trying to buy back those rights, not putting them on more platforms.
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 12:40 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:31 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 11:08 AM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 10:51 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

Correct.

Then wouldn't that make it harder to buy those rights back;, especially if fox bought them after knowing the acc wants to start their own network and therefore would need their rights back?

This is not good news, iyam. At the very least it appears the acc would have to pay more for such rights.
Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?

ACC games are already distributed across the US with the Raycom deal. So evidently there are people everywhere willing to watch.

There are also games left that go to ESPN3 each year so I don't think there would be a big deal getting some back for a network. The ACC has two more football and three more basketball teams now than they had before. Right now Raycom Sports is the defacto ACC channel. In the future there will still be inventory for them to show.
If these YES ACC games are so attractive, why isn't ESPN just showing the games themselves (especially since the launch of the SEC network is creating 1-2 more open slots a weekend on ESPNU)?
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 02:10 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 02:04 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:47 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:31 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?
Kind of sidestepping Syracuse there? Likely to be some people who'd like to see Syracuse. Actually, likely to be some who'd like to see GTech ~ they have a lot of northeast coast alumni.

(07-11-2013 02:02 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 01:53 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

Why did you leave the Big East out of the title and your comment? I mean it's right there in the tweet, the Big East will also be shown.

Because it's bigger news about the ACC, which has never previously enjoyed any real presence in NYC. It also is an indication that an ACC Network may not be coming to pass. The Big East already enjoys a noticeable presence in NYC and that will likely continue. Don't feel slighted.

I don't think that this has any/much bearing on a future ACC Network.

Eh. Maybe or maybe not, but it is clear that instead of trying to buy back rights in an effort to consolidate them that more are being resold, making it potentially more expensive to buy back later. If there were pressing plans for a network, then I would think deals like this would not be happening as ESPN and the ACC would be trying to buy back those rights, not putting them on more platforms.

Not necessarily. It depends whether ESPN (a) sub-licensed those rights for the entire length of their deal with the ACC, or (b) sub-licensed them on a year-to-year basis with the ability to pull back the rights after each year.
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 02:14 PM)krup Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:40 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:31 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 11:08 AM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 10:51 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Correct.

Then wouldn't that make it harder to buy those rights back;, especially if fox bought them after knowing the acc wants to start their own network and therefore would need their rights back?

This is not good news, iyam. At the very least it appears the acc would have to pay more for such rights.
Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?

ACC games are already distributed across the US with the Raycom deal. So evidently there are people everywhere willing to watch.

There are also games left that go to ESPN3 each year so I don't think there would be a big deal getting some back for a network. The ACC has two more football and three more basketball teams now than they had before. Right now Raycom Sports is the defacto ACC channel. In the future there will still be inventory for them to show.
If these YES ACC games are so attractive, why isn't ESPN just showing the games themselves (especially since the launch of the SEC network is creating 1-2 more open slots a weekend on ESPNU)?

These are the regional GOTW games that weren't ending up on ESPNU in all likelihood anyway.
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 02:10 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 02:04 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:47 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:31 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?
Kind of sidestepping Syracuse there? Likely to be some people who'd like to see Syracuse. Actually, likely to be some who'd like to see GTech ~ they have a lot of northeast coast alumni.

(07-11-2013 02:02 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 01:53 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

Why did you leave the Big East out of the title and your comment? I mean it's right there in the tweet, the Big East will also be shown.

Because it's bigger news about the ACC, which has never previously enjoyed any real presence in NYC. It also is an indication that an ACC Network may not be coming to pass. The Big East already enjoys a noticeable presence in NYC and that will likely continue. Don't feel slighted.

I don't think that this has any/much bearing on a future ACC Network.

Eh. Maybe or maybe not, but it is clear that instead of trying to buy back rights in an effort to consolidate them that more are being resold, making it potentially more expensive to buy back later. If there were pressing plans for a network, then I would think deals like this would not be happening as ESPN and the ACC would be trying to buy back those rights, not putting them on more platforms.


Maybe, maybe not. What if the ACC Network is not going to launch until, say, 2016?

It may or may not be more expensive to buy back rights later.

How long is this YES deal? Will ESPN launch an ACC Network with or without these particular "third tier" rights?

I defer to guys like adcorbett and others who work in the TV industry and/or know a whole lot about TV rights than me.

I just don't think anyone has enough info one way or another to jump to any conclusions.
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 11:05 AM)krup Wrote:  -So, the ACC sold all of its games to ESPN

-ESPN, by contract, sells the ones it doesn't want to show to Raycom

-Raycom sells some of the games to Fox, who probably wants to show them on the regional networks they own like SportsSouth, Sun Sports.

-Fox buys 49% of another regional network, the YES network.

-Since the YES network has nothing to show when there isn't a baseball game, Fox wants to show the ACC games they bought on that regional network as well. Since they are only minority owners, that requires a deal be cut between Fox and Yes.

Already, people are chiming in on what a brilliant move this is BY THE ACC, and it is only a matter of time before someone insinuates that this will make the individual schools more money.

This is it in a nutshell. Not much to see here. Seems like Fox is treating YES like any of its other regional networks.

I bet that this ends up being mostly Syracuse games, and maybe some other games in busy timeslots that aren't shown nationally.
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 02:14 PM)krup Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:40 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:31 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 11:08 AM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 10:51 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Correct.

Then wouldn't that make it harder to buy those rights back;, especially if fox bought them after knowing the acc wants to start their own network and therefore would need their rights back?

This is not good news, iyam. At the very least it appears the acc would have to pay more for such rights.
Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?

ACC games are already distributed across the US with the Raycom deal. So evidently there are people everywhere willing to watch.

There are also games left that go to ESPN3 each year so I don't think there would be a big deal getting some back for a network. The ACC has two more football and three more basketball teams now than they had before. Right now Raycom Sports is the defacto ACC channel. In the future there will still be inventory for them to show.
If these YES ACC games are so attractive, why isn't ESPN just showing the games themselves (especially since the launch of the SEC network is creating 1-2 more open slots a weekend on ESPNU)?

because these games are the acc's syndicated package thru raycom sports
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 02:26 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 11:05 AM)krup Wrote:  -So, the ACC sold all of its games to ESPN

-ESPN, by contract, sells the ones it doesn't want to show to Raycom

-Raycom sells some of the games to Fox, who probably wants to show them on the regional networks they own like SportsSouth, Sun Sports.

-Fox buys 49% of another regional network, the YES network.

-Since the YES network has nothing to show when there isn't a baseball game, Fox wants to show the ACC games they bought on that regional network as well. Since they are only minority owners, that requires a deal be cut between Fox and Yes.

Already, people are chiming in on what a brilliant move this is BY THE ACC, and it is only a matter of time before someone insinuates that this will make the individual schools more money.

This is it in a nutshell. Not much to see here. Seems like Fox is treating YES like any of its other regional networks.

I bet that this ends up being mostly Syracuse games, and maybe some other games in busy timeslots that aren't shown nationally.

Why would these be mostly Syracuse games?
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 02:20 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 02:10 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 02:04 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:47 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 12:31 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  Who in nyc wants to watch the likes of Duke,Wake Forest,BC,clemson,ga tech,louisville,uva,nc st football?
Kind of sidestepping Syracuse there? Likely to be some people who'd like to see Syracuse. Actually, likely to be some who'd like to see GTech ~ they have a lot of northeast coast alumni.

(07-11-2013 02:02 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 01:53 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Why did you leave the Big East out of the title and your comment? I mean it's right there in the tweet, the Big East will also be shown.

Because it's bigger news about the ACC, which has never previously enjoyed any real presence in NYC. It also is an indication that an ACC Network may not be coming to pass. The Big East already enjoys a noticeable presence in NYC and that will likely continue. Don't feel slighted.

I don't think that this has any/much bearing on a future ACC Network.

Eh. Maybe or maybe not, but it is clear that instead of trying to buy back rights in an effort to consolidate them that more are being resold, making it potentially more expensive to buy back later. If there were pressing plans for a network, then I would think deals like this would not be happening as ESPN and the ACC would be trying to buy back those rights, not putting them on more platforms.


Maybe, maybe not. What if the ACC Network is not going to launch until, say, 2016?

It may or may not be more expensive to buy back rights later.

How long is this YES deal? Will ESPN launch an ACC Network with or without these particular "third tier" rights?

I defer to guys like adcorbett and others who work in the TV industry and/or know a whole lot about TV rights than me.

I just don't think anyone has enough info one way or another to jump to any conclusions.

or maybe the acc goes 100% digital on it's network. maybe they continue to sell some inventory thru it's syndicated package to network tv & rsn's but create a channel like espn3/watchespn for those who want to watch on mobile devices,tablets & such.
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 03:02 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 02:26 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 11:05 AM)krup Wrote:  -So, the ACC sold all of its games to ESPN

-ESPN, by contract, sells the ones it doesn't want to show to Raycom

-Raycom sells some of the games to Fox, who probably wants to show them on the regional networks they own like SportsSouth, Sun Sports.

-Fox buys 49% of another regional network, the YES network.

-Since the YES network has nothing to show when there isn't a baseball game, Fox wants to show the ACC games they bought on that regional network as well. Since they are only minority owners, that requires a deal be cut between Fox and Yes.

Already, people are chiming in on what a brilliant move this is BY THE ACC, and it is only a matter of time before someone insinuates that this will make the individual schools more money.

This is it in a nutshell. Not much to see here. Seems like Fox is treating YES like any of its other regional networks.

I bet that this ends up being mostly Syracuse games, and maybe some other games in busy timeslots that aren't shown nationally.

Why would these be mostly Syracuse games?

Because Syracuse has the biggest NYC fanbase of any ACC school by a huge margin. It's the same reason why Fox Sports Ohio shows mostly Reds and Indians games.
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 03:10 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 03:02 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 02:26 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 11:05 AM)krup Wrote:  -So, the ACC sold all of its games to ESPN

-ESPN, by contract, sells the ones it doesn't want to show to Raycom

-Raycom sells some of the games to Fox, who probably wants to show them on the regional networks they own like SportsSouth, Sun Sports.

-Fox buys 49% of another regional network, the YES network.

-Since the YES network has nothing to show when there isn't a baseball game, Fox wants to show the ACC games they bought on that regional network as well. Since they are only minority owners, that requires a deal be cut between Fox and Yes.

Already, people are chiming in on what a brilliant move this is BY THE ACC, and it is only a matter of time before someone insinuates that this will make the individual schools more money.

This is it in a nutshell. Not much to see here. Seems like Fox is treating YES like any of its other regional networks.

I bet that this ends up being mostly Syracuse games, and maybe some other games in busy timeslots that aren't shown nationally.

Why would these be mostly Syracuse games?

Because Syracuse has the biggest NYC fanbase of any ACC school by a huge margin. It's the same reason why Fox Sports Ohio shows mostly Reds and Indians games.

that's not the way the acc rsn package works. if wake vs. duke is the game shown in that timeslot then it will be shown on YES
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
Quote:Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 38m
Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

That really is the important question here Bullet. Kudos for asking it. Because what appears to be happening is that ESPN is grabbing up rights and mitigating expenses by selling off the ones they don't want. Fox on the other hand is sniffing around for bargain programming. ESPN is becoming an agent of programming as well as a network. It's like running your retail store out of your wholesale business. FOX affiliates become outlet stores while ESPN produces prime time product. I guess this is what happens when you can't bust up a conference and hang on to the best product by collecting it in another conference. Now instead of separating out the product you want through realignment you sell off the product you don't want from the initial purchase. It accomplishes the same thing, just not quite as efficiently.
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
This explains it pretty well:



http://www.syracuse.com/axeman/index.ssf...telev.html



Quote:This is part of a television structure for Syracuse University that will be slightly different in the ACC.

As detailed in this story on Syracuse.com from June 25, the structure of who gets ACC games is changing.

ESPN and their entire family of networks (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ABC Sports) and ESPN 3 (online only) get first choice of ACC games.

The next in line is Raycom Sports, which distributes games via the "ACC Network."

Raycom Sports offers two packages for its ACC Network games. The designated regional cable provider gets second choice of games after ESPN. The "over the air" provider is next in line after that.

YES confirmed today they will be one of two regional cable providers to carry ACC games. Sources indicate that the MSG Network will be the other, although that has not been confirmed by MSG as of this writing.

CNY Central recently acquired the local "over the air rights" offered by Raycom Sports,meaning they will air ACC games not picked up by ESPN and YES/MSG.

“This agreement is an example of the symbiotic relationship YES now enjoys with FOX, a new minority owner of YES,” said Tracy Dolgin, President & CEO, YES Network. “Given our complementary interests and areas of expertise, we anticipate more of these types of mutually beneficial collaborations going forward.”
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 03:25 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 03:10 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
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(07-11-2013 02:26 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 11:05 AM)krup Wrote:  -So, the ACC sold all of its games to ESPN

-ESPN, by contract, sells the ones it doesn't want to show to Raycom

-Raycom sells some of the games to Fox, who probably wants to show them on the regional networks they own like SportsSouth, Sun Sports.

-Fox buys 49% of another regional network, the YES network.

-Since the YES network has nothing to show when there isn't a baseball game, Fox wants to show the ACC games they bought on that regional network as well. Since they are only minority owners, that requires a deal be cut between Fox and Yes.

Already, people are chiming in on what a brilliant move this is BY THE ACC, and it is only a matter of time before someone insinuates that this will make the individual schools more money.

This is it in a nutshell. Not much to see here. Seems like Fox is treating YES like any of its other regional networks.

I bet that this ends up being mostly Syracuse games, and maybe some other games in busy timeslots that aren't shown nationally.

Why would these be mostly Syracuse games?

Because Syracuse has the biggest NYC fanbase of any ACC school by a huge margin. It's the same reason why Fox Sports Ohio shows mostly Reds and Indians games.

that's not the way the acc rsn package works. if wake vs. duke is the game shown in that timeslot then it will be shown on YES

probably going to mostly be Cuse from the ACC side with a few other lower level ACC games that ESPN didn't want. I'm sure YES wasn't agreeing to show GT vs Wake games. YES is essentially taking over what SNY was doing for the last few years. Cuse, St. John's and Seton Hall games. Maybe They also buy some Uconn games as well or SNY will snatch them up. Rutgers though will have all it's tier 3 games tied up with the BTN. Do they sell off any lower level games that the BTN wont air? If they do maybe Rutgers gets a few BBall games on YES or SNY.
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(07-11-2013 03:34 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
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Quote:Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 38m
Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

That really is the important question here Bullet. Kudos for asking it. Because what appears to be happening is that ESPN is grabbing up rights and mitigating expenses by selling off the ones they don't want. Fox on the other hand is sniffing around for bargain programming. ESPN is becoming an agent of programming as well as a network. It's like running your retail store out of your wholesale business. FOX affiliates become outlet stores while ESPN produces prime time product.

Not really. FS1 will not be showing any of these games and to the average Joe they will have no idea it's Fox who is putting them on. To them it's just YES. This is Fox just making it's regional property worth while after baseball season is over. Fox is still going to be producing top of the line prime time product as well. Now they are making one of their regional properties relevant for more than just baseball season.
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RE: ACC strikes deal with YES
(07-11-2013 03:46 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 03:34 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  
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Quote:Ralph D. Russo ‏@ralphDrussoAP 38m
Little late on this: YES announces it will show ACC hoops and fball games and big East basketball as part of deal with Fox Sports.

Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

That really is the important question here Bullet. Kudos for asking it. Because what appears to be happening is that ESPN is grabbing up rights and mitigating expenses by selling off the ones they don't want. Fox on the other hand is sniffing around for bargain programming. ESPN is becoming an agent of programming as well as a network. It's like running your retail store out of your wholesale business. FOX affiliates become outlet stores while ESPN produces prime time product.

Not really. FS1 will not be showing any of these games and to the average Joe they will have no idea it's Fox who is putting them on. To them it's just YES. This is Fox just making it's regional property worth while after baseball season is over. Fox is still going to be producing top of the line prime time product as well. Now they are making one of their regional properties relevant for more than just baseball season.

I'm not sure I totally agree, but okay. Now it begs another question. If tier 3 is getting shopped how is the ACC ever going to have its own network in the near future? It seems to me that this kind of arrangement precludes the formation of an ACC Network.
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(07-11-2013 02:26 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  This is it in a nutshell. Not much to see here. Seems like Fox is treating YES like any of its other regional networks.

I bet that this ends up being mostly Syracuse games, and maybe some other games in busy timeslots that aren't shown nationally.

Why would these be mostly Syracuse games?

Because Syracuse has the biggest NYC fanbase of any ACC school by a huge margin. It's the same reason why Fox Sports Ohio shows mostly Reds and Indians games.

that's not the way the acc rsn package works. if wake vs. duke is the game shown in that timeslot then it will be shown on YES

probably going to mostly be Cuse from the ACC side with a few other lower level ACC games that ESPN didn't want. I'm sure YES wasn't agreeing to show GT vs Wake games. YES is essentially taking over what SNY was doing for the last few years. Cuse, St. John's and Seton Hall games. Maybe They also buy some Uconn games as well or SNY will snatch them up. Rutgers though will have all it's tier 3 games tied up with the BTN. Do they sell off any lower level games that the BTN wont air? If they do maybe Rutgers gets a few BBall games on YES or SNY.

Yes is agreeing to carry games that Fox airs on it's rsn's. Yes has no say so on what games are shown. acc rsn games(football) are shown in the 3:30 timeslot & most of the time they will get the 3rd best game available. now alot of bball games are split by region but not football
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(07-11-2013 10:25 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Another stealthy move by John Swofford.

I think this is more on ESPN's end, or possibly Raycom's end. I don't think that Swofford had anything to do with this. I'm happy about it, though.
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(07-11-2013 10:25 AM)brista21 Wrote:  Also looks like SNY will be shutout from the 3 college conferences likely to get the most interest in the area.

I'm sure that they will get something from Syracuse, Rutgers, and/or UCONN. Like MSG and YES, it might have to be sublicensed from ESPN, or some other party, and it may not be football games (although they might be able to grab a game or two from each school). However, I'm pretty sure that there is plenty of basketball content available.

Also, there is the possibility of BIG EAST games. Obviously STJ and SH will be of some interest in the city.
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(07-11-2013 03:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-11-2013 03:46 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
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(07-11-2013 10:24 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Interesting. Way to plant that flag in NYC, ACC.

How did Fox get rights to ACC games? Is this part of what got sub-licensed to Raycom (who re-sold to Fox)?

That really is the important question here Bullet. Kudos for asking it. Because what appears to be happening is that ESPN is grabbing up rights and mitigating expenses by selling off the ones they don't want. Fox on the other hand is sniffing around for bargain programming. ESPN is becoming an agent of programming as well as a network. It's like running your retail store out of your wholesale business. FOX affiliates become outlet stores while ESPN produces prime time product.

Not really. FS1 will not be showing any of these games and to the average Joe they will have no idea it's Fox who is putting them on. To them it's just YES. This is Fox just making it's regional property worth while after baseball season is over. Fox is still going to be producing top of the line prime time product as well. Now they are making one of their regional properties relevant for more than just baseball season.

I'm not sure I totally agree, but okay. Now it begs another question. If tier 3 is getting shopped how is the ACC ever going to have its own network in the near future? It seems to me that this kind of arrangement precludes the formation of an ACC Network.

an acc network isn't going to launch until 2016 since it takes time to work out everything
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