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(07-23-2013 08:41 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  I'm guessing B12 moving in pushed this as sec basically shared liberty/compass before and seemed to even favor birmingham.

Some around here forgot their recent history. The SEC dropped the Liberty deep down its bowl hierarchy a few years ago when the Liberty stuck with a shared C-USA/Big East model on the other tie-in, despite the SEC telling the Liberty that it wanted a full-time AQ opponent (Big East) in that other slot.

The Liberty learned its lesson and this time around signed the Big 12. That move was purely designed to mollify the SEC and get back in its good graces, and should have been a huge clue as to our fate in this bowl.
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This is a tough blow for the AAC but if you look at this realistically. Memphis is relatively close to a lot cities that are home to sec and big 12 fans. St.Louis, Dallas, Nashville, new Orleans, Birmingham, Louisville (UK fans), and Atlanta. That's a easy drive for a lot of the teams who will participate in that bowl to make. I think the attendance at the bowl will be great year in and year out. I can easily see wvu, Kansas st, and Iowa st, making that bowl most years. For the city of Memphis and the liberty bowl it just makes financial sense. Hotel rooms will be booked. Not really hard to understand the value in this decision. I've seen many Memphis guys on this board say the liberty bowl will look out for their financial gain first and foremost. Only gray avenger was blind.
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If I were Aresco I'd move the basketball tournament from Memphis and make it clear it was never going to be in Memphis. Yeah that's punishing the University of Memphis for the Liberty Bowl's decision, but oh well according to many of them their presence alone was supposed to "deliver" the Liberty Bowl to this league.
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I am sure Aresco knew this was likely to happen. Its not like he hasn't been working on the bowl lineup. Anybody else think they could do a better job.

Unless you are in the college football playoff the only bowl games worth anything will be the contract and access bowl game. Our main concern for our champion is not that it missed out on the opportunity to play a middle of the road power conference team in Memphis but rather will it be ranked high enough to beat out the Mountain West champion every season.
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(07-23-2013 08:45 AM)kardphan Wrote:  This is a tough blow for the AAC but if you look at this realistically. Memphis is relatively close to a lot cities that are home to sec and big 12 fans. St.Louis, Dallas, Nashville, new Orleans, Birmingham, Louisville (UK fans), and Atlanta. That's a easy drive for a lot of the teams who will participate in that bowl to make. I think the attendance at the bowl will be great year in and year out. I can easily see wvu, Kansas st, and Iowa st, making that bowl most years. For the city of Memphis and the liberty bowl it just makes financial sense. Hotel rooms will be booked. Not really hard to understand the value in this decision. I've seen many Memphis guys on this board say the liberty bowl will look out for their financial gain first and foremost. Only gray avenger was blind.

Exactly. If the SEC wanted this bowl it was always theirs for the taking. The lone University of Memphis might of had some pull but I'm certain it would have been barely noticeable when measured against the SEC juggernaut.
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Would New Orleans be able to be elevated?
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Liberty is no longer part of the American. In all fairness, it really only was once anyway, with the potential of being part of it this season.

Aresco spinning in the press what was never going to be for his conference, part XVII...
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On the other end of the spectrum, looks like we might be working on the Little Cesear's Bowl with the MAC.

"Hoffman, executive director of the bowl, added at the top of his list to match up against a team from the MAC is the American Athletic Conference, formerly Big East.
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From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130...z2ZramNPXO
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(07-23-2013 08:50 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Liberty is no longer part of the American. In all fairness, it really only was once anyway, with the potential of being part of it this season.

Aresco spinning in the press what was never going to be for his conference, part XVII...

Aresco is a bad used car salesman.
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(07-23-2013 08:48 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  I am sure Aresco knew this was likely to happen. Its not like he hasn't been working on the bowl lineup. Anybody else think they could do a better job.

Unless you are in the college football playoff the only bowl games worth anything will be the contract and access bowl game. Our main concern for our champion is not that it missed out on the opportunity to play a middle of the road power conference team in Memphis but rather will it be ranked high enough to beat out the Mountain West champion every season.

I'm sure he knew it was likely to happen. That makes what he has said in the press that much more irresponsible and shows that he cannot be trusted. This is not the first time, nor the fifth, that he has said something was in the works or looked good or something of that ilk, only to have it never materialize. All he should have said was that the American was working on their bowl deals and left it at that. Don't say that you feel good about keeping the Liberty when all the signs point to it being gone.
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(07-23-2013 08:53 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  On the other end of the spectrum, looks like we might be working on the Little Cesear's Bowl with the MAC.

"Hoffman, executive director of the bowl, added at the top of his list to match up against a team from the MAC is the American Athletic Conference, formerly Big East.
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From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130...z2ZramNPXO

Great. Do they even have a venue for that game yet?
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RE: Liberty officially gone according to McDouchebag
(07-23-2013 08:53 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  On the other end of the spectrum, looks like we might be working on the Little Cesear's Bowl with the MAC.

"Hoffman, executive director of the bowl, added at the top of his list to match up against a team from the MAC is the American Athletic Conference, formerly Big East.
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From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130...z2ZramNPXO


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(07-23-2013 08:47 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If I were Aresco I'd move the basketball tournament from Memphis and make it clear it was never going to be in Memphis. Yeah that's punishing the University of Memphis for the Liberty Bowl's decision, but oh well according to many of them their presence alone was supposed to "deliver" the Liberty Bowl to this league.

Memphis is a great place for the basketball tourney. That would be cutting off nose to spite the face. 07-coffee3
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(07-23-2013 08:53 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  On the other end of the spectrum, looks like we might be working on the Little Cesear's Bowl with the MAC.

"Hoffman, executive director of the bowl, added at the top of his list to match up against a team from the MAC is the American Athletic Conference, formerly Big East.
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From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130...z2ZramNPXO

Oh good grief.
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(07-23-2013 08:50 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Liberty is no longer part of the American. In all fairness, it really only was once anyway, with the potential of being part of it this season.

Aresco spinning in the press what was never going to be for his conference, part XVII...

I agree which is why i always take aresco with a grain of salt. How many times has he been on the radio in every AAC city blowing smoke and painting the perfect scenario. I'd much rather just hear it straight with no bs.

I think most seen the SEC as a threat to take the spot opposite the big 12 in the liberty. Its one of those situations now that aresco needs to now get that aresco bowl on the fast track with a decent opponent. The AAC champion will more than likely be a top 20 team. The champ deserves a good reward for winning the league. He needs to right the ship.
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(07-23-2013 08:54 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(07-23-2013 08:48 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  I am sure Aresco knew this was likely to happen. Its not like he hasn't been working on the bowl lineup. Anybody else think they could do a better job.

Unless you are in the college football playoff the only bowl games worth anything will be the contract and access bowl game. Our main concern for our champion is not that it missed out on the opportunity to play a middle of the road power conference team in Memphis but rather will it be ranked high enough to beat out the Mountain West champion every season.

I'm sure he knew it was likely to happen. That makes what he has said in the press that much more irresponsible and shows that he cannot be trusted. This is not the first time, nor the fifth, that he has said something was in the works or looked good or something of that ilk, only to have it never materialize. All he should have said was that the American was working on their bowl deals and left it at that. Don't say that you feel good about keeping the Liberty when all the signs point to it being gone.

Yes, Aresco's Liberty Bowl propaganda was typical of him. Don't worry though, whatever crap bowl lineup we end up with, he'll make it sound like we've signed with the Sugar, Rose, and Super Bowls. 07-coffee3
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(07-23-2013 08:56 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-23-2013 08:47 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If I were Aresco I'd move the basketball tournament from Memphis and make it clear it was never going to be in Memphis. Yeah that's punishing the University of Memphis for the Liberty Bowl's decision, but oh well according to many of them their presence alone was supposed to "deliver" the Liberty Bowl to this league.

Memphis is a great place for the basketball tourney. That would be cutting off nose to spite the face. 07-coffee3

There are other good places for the basketball tournament. Cincinnati, Connecticut, Philly, Tampa, or Orlando. I'd move the thing and I'd let the city know exactly why it's moved. If you don't like the outcome of something you hit them where it hurts, their wallets.
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Wow... what does this say about how Memphis is perceived? Slap in the face.
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(07-23-2013 08:47 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If I were Aresco I'd move the basketball tournament from Memphis and make it clear it was never going to be in Memphis. Yeah that's punishing the University of Memphis for the Liberty Bowl's decision, but oh well according to many of them their presence alone was supposed to "deliver" the Liberty Bowl to this league.

Come on man be realistic. Aresco isn't petty he may not be the best commish but he isnt drunk. No other city or school would go balls out to support that tourney than Memphis. The best facility and everything is right there and the fans will support it. Im sure UConn and cincy would be good hosts as well but he wont pull that tourney from Memphis. That would just be beyond idiotic. The liberty bowl situation was out of the schools control they don't "own" the bowl. Not sure punishing Memphis for being pissed is going to solve anything. Memphis bid and won the tourney fair and square.
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