(08-01-2013 09:06 PM)pir84evr Wrote: (08-01-2013 08:42 PM)Fear The Beak Wrote: 1) You don't need to point out whom we've played. We know it, and have heard the same stuff from people like you for two years now.
Then don't go calling out teams better than you are.
2) Couldn't care less about whether any other startup programs played a tougher 2nd-year schedule? That's what I said and what I mean. I really couldn't care any less than I do. That's exactly why're you're ignorant on the subject, nope and I actually have looked and found none. Now you're more informed. You're welcome. What the hell are you even talking about? I'm talking about the FACT you haven't EVER beaten a halfway decent football team.
3) "the worst D1 schools that exist"? Four of them were ranked higher than you guys at season's end. Two of them finished the year ranked in the top 25, and three were within the top 25 at some point during the course of the season. Obviously not the worst. Besides, are you aware that East Carolina's strength of schedule last year was ranked 112 by Sagarin, while UTSA's was ranked 125? Not much difference there, is it? Of course you'll likely now try to discredit Sagarin to justify your response. Not to mention, in Phil Steele's 2013 pre-season Strength of Schedule rankings, UTSA is at 78 while East Carolina is at 97, and Marshall sits at 112.
Your only wins are against some of the worst football teams, not that you haven't tried to play some decent teams. You're touting your losses. There's a difference. I should have written that point more clearly in my earlier post. And no, I'm not about to discredit Sagarin ratings.
4) Obviously there's more potential in the future than there is this year because this will only be our 3rd season. Which is what I've been saying all along. You'll have more potential in the future, and until then, don't talk trash to other schools who have proven themselves to be better. Heck, it won't be until 2014 that we'll even have any seniors who've been with our program for 4 years. Telling me things I already know won't help your argument. And btw, that's why I'm only predicting 5-7 for us this year.
5) It was an unfair characterization because a team in its 2nd year obviously won't have a first-rate FBS caliber schedule, as I tried to explain. And rather than giving credit where it's due for us to have the toughest 2nd year schedule of any program, you and others instead want to discredit us because it's not as difficult as the schedules of D1 schools that have had football for decades upon decades already. You don't know much about our scheduling history do you? Credit would only be due if you ACTUALLY WON SOME OF THOSE GAMES
6) You obviously don't know a contradiction when you read one...lol. Yes, I said that we lack credibility in the eyes of many, but did I or did I not say that I feel our credibility is often unfairly compromised? My point is that you recognize other peoples' opinions, not that you agree with them. Did that part escape you perhaps? THAT'S why I criticized you for saying it, and criticize others as well. Do try to keep up.
7) "UTSA is a crap football team"... You've exposed yourself yet again...lol. Prove you AREN'T crap and we'll see.
8) No, I certainly don't want a conference of schools that are less than 40 years old, and love the fact that in just our third year, we're already in the same conference as an East Carolina team that's had football for 80 years. ; ) You are in our conference for one year. You're also in a conference with schools who haven't played a down of football in 50 years. This also proves my point about Marshall and their "mediocrity." UTSA has enjoyed far better opportunities than schools like Marshall had over a much longer period of time.
9) Yeah, I know we all get dumped on. And I'm sure you did your part in defending your school as well, so excuse me if defending mine somehow doesn't sit right with you.
Defend UTSA all you want. Here's what I see: a football team that for whatever reasons you care to name, have NEVER beaten a football team ranked in the top 100 of FBS. Is that wrong? I'm saying when you actually WIN some games against non-awful opponents, you will ahve earned the respect of fans of other teams. That has not happened yet.
Here we go again...
1) I didn't call out anyone. I didn't start this. I responded in defense. You however did start this with me when it didn't even concern you or East Carolina in the first place.
2) Again, you're telling me things I already know.
3) The discussion was about the schedule, not whom either of us beat...lol. You originally implied we
played the worst D1 schools. My response was with regard to that. So don't try to now change it to whom we beat. Nice try.
4) You call defending my university trash talk? First of all, I take care to be accurate with regard to what I state, and if things weren't said about UTSA
first, this conversation wouldn't even be happening.
5) Coming from a school that
scored a total of
24 points in your first 3 seasons COMBINED, and were outscored by a cumulative 372-24 during those seasons, you sure have room to talk. It wasn't until your 9th season that you guys even had your first winning record, and that was against MUCH lighter competition than what we faced last year when we finished 8-4.
6) No, you actually missed the whole point, which is why I had to again correct you. Besides, I recognize everyone's points...lol. And if I disagree with them, I'm well within my right to state so and refute, just as you are.
7) Refer to #5 above. And compared to the better D1 programs, of course a two-year program will be crap. Talk about stating the obvious. But again, we went 8-4 last year against a schedule more difficult than any other 2nd-year program.
8) I know you guys are leaving. It doesn't change the validity of my statement. Yes, in a sense, UTSA is fortunate to be in the position we're in (especially considering the youth of our program), but it took us 40 years just to get a football team to begin with, so we're probably not as fortunate as you may think we are. It was a long, frustrating wait to say the least.
And lastly, I certainly will defend UTSA all I want. Again, yes our wins were against weak teams, but you guys couldn't even beat
them in your first 3 years, so you're again not putting things in perspective and at least giving us some credit where it's due. Must admit though, Guilford who beat you guys 79-0 in season 1, and Lenoir-Rhyne who beat you 47-0 in season 3 were forces to be reckoned with.
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