OK Good Folks, We have played three games, roughly 1/4 of the season (wow it goes fast). And our record is 1 win, 2 losses. I think realistically, we were hoping for a 2-1 record at this point, but we just can't play that Bowling Green game over.

But I'm going to take a critical "quick" look at what we have left and see if we have a legitimate shot at a bowl, even a decent one.



OUR SCHEDULE

Team--------------------Place---------Result--------Record/Projection

Bowling Green------------Away---------Loss-------------0-1

Colorado St--------------Home----------Win-------------1-1

Oklahoma----------------Away----------Loss-------------1-2

(Future Predictions)

Iowa State (0-2)---------Home----------TossupWin-------2-2

Rice (1-1)----------------Home----------TossupWin-------3-2

UTEP (1-1)---------------Away----------TossupWin-------4-2

Tulane (1-2)--------------Away----------TossupWin------5-2

UTSA (1-1)---------------Home----------Win--------------6-2

ECU (2-1)-----------------Away----------Loss-------------6-3

Marshall (2-1)-------------Home----------TossupWin-------7-3

La Tech (1-2)-------------Away----------TossupWin-------8-3

North Texas (2-1)---------Home-----------Win-------------9-3


My "optimistic" prediction is 9 wins, 3 losses - best case scenario.

Worst case would be 3-9.

We obviously have a lot of tossup games on the schedule.

If you take my best, worse case records and average them, you have a 6-6 season. IMO that is realisitically worst case so far as the realistic projection is. I think (85% sure) we go bowling.

I'm taking into consideration the strength of the teams we play and whether they are beatable. One of our advantages is that we only play one really tough game on the road - ECU. BTW, I think we lose that Rice game in Houston and probably Marshall if they were on the road.

So at this point, what do you "realsitically think the record will be?

As of today, I think we will end up with a 7-5 record. I think we beat Iowa State & Rice at home. I think we win either @ UTEP or Tulane, but not both. I also think we lose at ECU & then either the home game with Marshall ( Cato could pass for 500 yards !) or the road game at La Tech. I think we beat UTSA & UNT at home.

I agree that we could be as bad as 3-9 or as good as 9-3. Injuries, the development of our young players & coaches bringing along some new guys will determine our season, imo.

I really believe we need to give others a chance at safety. White (#49), had a horrible game on Saturday. I know he tries hard, he jumped in on several tackles & was credited with 4 assisted tackles, along with 2 solo tackles (?!). However, he had several plays where he was just juked out of his jock. On those plays, he didn't even touch the ball carrier at all. He also was burned deep a couple times. I know Mudoh was also burned, but Mudoh also has made a lot of good plays. I saw this in the first 2 games on a much more limited basis, because the other teams did not have a good passing offense. This will happen again & again if we don't make a change.

That is my biggest concern with Coach Blankenship : He appears to stay with the same players regardless of performance. After the terrible first game against Bowling Green, we have not replaced one single starter, except for injuries. Now that we know just how bad that BG loss really was ( see Indiana 42 BG 10), there is no way we should stand pat on personnel. I hope he makes a change at safety now.

Everything staying the same, I see losses to ECU, Rice, Marshall......so were up to 5 losses.....I think it could take a darn near perfect game at UTEP, so that is a probably 6 losses...........and in the rest of them, I think we will have to play a good game(very few mistakes) to win and I don't really see us being favored by more than 7-10 against any of them.......hard to believe I'm saying that when UTSA is a home game but they have a decent offense, just not much of a defense. So I will be quite pleased with a 6-6 bowl eligible team but I wouldn't bet much on it.......if anything!!!!

(09-15-2013 10:07 PM)Tulsafanzz Wrote:  As of today, I think we will end up with a 7-5 record. I think we beat Iowa State & Rice at home. I think we win either @ UTEP or Tulane, but not both. I also think we lose at ECU & then either the home game with Marshall ( Cato could pass for 500 yards !) or the road game at La Tech. I think we beat UTSA & UNT at home.

I agree that we could be as bad as 3-9 or as good as 9-3. Injuries, the development of our young players & coaches bringing along some new guys will determine our season, imo.

I really believe we need to give others a chance at safety. White (#49), had a horrible game on Saturday. I know he tries hard, he jumped in on several tackles & was credited with 4 assisted tackles, along with 2 solo tackles (?!). However, he had several plays where he was just juked out of his jock. On those plays, he didn't even touch the ball carrier at all. He also was burned deep a couple times. I know Mudoh was also burned, but Mudoh also has made a lot of good plays. I saw this in the first 2 games on a much more limited basis, because the other teams did not have a good passing offense. This will happen again & again if we don't make a change.

That is my biggest concern with Coach Blankenship : He appears to stay with the same players regardless of performance. After the terrible first game against Bowling Green, we have not replaced one single starter, except for injuries. Now that we know just how bad that BG loss really was ( see Indiana 42 BG 10), there is no way we should stand pat on personnel. I hope he makes a change at safety now.

Sounds like Coach Guy saw things very similar to many of our perspectives. Great to read his quotes in the World today :

"We've got to sit down as a defense and make some decisions. Try to get more athletic. Find guys who can make plays in space. Not let a 5 yard hitch turn into a 15 yard play."

"We're putting everything on the table. Let's see what gives us the best chance to execute what we want to do, and then finish the play. We've got to shore ourselves up at safety first - from the inside out."

These are great words, imo. Now let's hope they follow through with necessary changes & we find a good young defender (or 2 if needed).

Start with the assumption, this is not a road team. Too much inexperience.

OUR SCHEDULE
Best Possible
Team--------------------Place---------Result--------Record/Projection

Bowling Green------------Away---------Loss-------------0-1

Colorado St--------------Home----------Win-------------1-1

Oklahoma----------------Away----------Loss-------------1-2

(Future Predictions)

Iowa State (0-2)---------Home----------TossupWin-------2-2

Rice (1-1)----------------Home--------------Loss----------2-3

UTEP (1-1)---------------Away----------TossupWin-------3-3

Tulane (1-2)--------------Away----------TossupWin-------4-3

UTSA (1-1)---------------Home----------TossupWins-------5-3

ECU (2-1)-----------------Away----------Loss---------------5-4

Marshall (2-1)-------------Home---------Loss---------------5-5

La Tech (1-2)-------------Away----------TossupWin---------6-5
North Texas (2-1)---------Home---------TossupWin---------7-6

North Texas and UTSA will be better than thought, could lose one of those. If so would make Tulsa 6-7 on the year, not really a Bowl team.

UTSA took care of UTEP with ease.......North Texas seems to be playing better every week..............our bowl chances seem to be sliding down hill. We just don't have an offense that makes me confident against any team.....hard to believe I'm saying that, when for so many years "Tulsa" meant "offense" in the college football world. Contrary to what a few people say, we are just an average QB away from at least a decent offense. I'm not going to harp on that since it doesn't look like that will change. Why do we run a vanilla offense.......no excitement, maybe because we have a QB that has limited capabilities and definitely a lack of confidence of the coaches. Since race has been brought into this discussion by others......your a racist if you say anything bad about Cody.....let me just say, if a big, white QB was as immobile and poor passer as Cody a whole bunch of people would have all kinds of names for him and want his head on a platter.......but do to political correctness we aren't suppose to be honest about his playing. Fortunately we only have 9 more games until a change will be made.

I don't care what color a QB is if he is performing sub par, get someone else in. BB does seem to favor seniority too much. If I had my way they would open all positions to competion now. Esp QB and free safety. I went back and looked at the BG game with Cody on throwing downs and was sickened at what I saw. Most QB;s early on learn the basic techniques they need to setup and get the ball off. Cody has none of those. Or at least he has some IF he gets time to setup before throwing. Mostly the defenses have figured out if you can rush him, what he know goes out the window. Blitz him to get going backward to make throw off his back foot. Get him to roll out he will throw across his body, causing him to wing wounded ducks. He does a lot of stuff wrong. Basic technique is when setting up 80% of weight on back foot, 20% on front foot. Just before getting the ball off shift forward with 80% on the front foot and 20% on rear foot. Most QB's know this. Cody during the BG game was throwing too much 50-50 weight distribution. Was using the upper body too much and no power from the hips. Its no wonder he has little distance and control.

(09-23-2013 11:35 AM)TulsaEye Wrote:  Start with the assumption, this is not a road team. Too much inexperience.

OUR SCHEDULE
Best Possible
Team--------------------Place---------Result--------Record/Projection

Bowling Green------------Away---------Loss-------------0-1

Colorado St--------------Home----------Win-------------1-1

Oklahoma----------------Away----------Loss-------------1-2

(Future Predictions)

Iowa State (0-2)---------Home----------TossupWin-------2-2

Rice (1-1)----------------Home--------------Loss----------2-3

UTEP (1-1)---------------Away----------TossupWin-------3-3

Tulane (1-2)--------------Away----------TossupWin-------4-3

UTSA (1-1)---------------Home----------TossupWins-------5-3

ECU (2-1)-----------------Away----------Loss---------------5-4

Marshall (2-1)-------------Home---------Loss---------------5-5

La Tech (1-2)-------------Away----------TossupWin---------6-5
North Texas (2-1)---------Home---------TossupWin---------7-6

North Texas and UTSA will be better than thought, could lose one of those. If so would make Tulsa 6-7 on the year, not really a Bowl team.

If the worst happens and Tulsa loses to both North Texas and UTSA, that will show a real down trend and rudely wake up a bunch of fans.
A 6-6 season is definitely possible.

(09-24-2013 12:28 AM)TulsaEye Wrote:  I don't care what color a QB is if he is performing sub par, get someone else in. BB does seem to favor seniority too much. If I had my way they would open all positions to competion now. Esp QB and free safety. I went back and looked at the BG game with Cody on throwing downs and was sickened at what I saw. Most QB;s early on learn the basic techniques they need to setup and get the ball off. Cody has none of those. Or at least he has some IF he gets time to setup before throwing. Mostly the defenses have figured out if you can rush him, what he know goes out the window. Blitz him to get going backward to make throw off his back foot. Get him to roll out he will throw across his body, causing him to wing wounded ducks. He does a lot of stuff wrong. Basic technique is when setting up 80% of weight on back foot, 20% on front foot. Just before getting the ball off shift forward with 80% on the front foot and 20% on rear foot. Most QB's know this. Cody during the BG game was throwing too much 50-50 weight distribution. Was using the upper body too much and no power from the hips. Its no wonder he has little distance and control.

There's an old drill for correcting the back foot throw. You keep working on the off arm and throw it down and to the side then to the back in an arking motion. It resembles an Australian Crawl swim stroke. The throwing arm follows the non throwing arm and it forces the head and weight forward. Also, there's another "old drill" where the QB sites his target (who slow plays a pattern) and then right before he releases, he closes his eyes and looks down on the release. This does two things - it encourages the proper motion of throwing and it forces the player to visualize his target. But lets face it, a QB has to be constantly reinforced "mechanically" for the proper techniques to happen in a game. This is part of the reason I don't like the HFBC to coach the QB's since that "constant" reinforcement has to be "constantly" drilled and every technique watched like a hawk. Every one of our pick sixes have occurred because of back foot throws or illconceived playcalling of long throwing against the wind as far as I can remember.

(09-15-2013 05:19 PM)rabidTU2 Wrote:  OK Good Folks, We have played three games, roughly 1/4 of the season (wow it goes fast). And our record is 1 win, 2 losses. I think realistically, we were hoping for a 2-1 record at this point, but we just can't play that Bowling Green game over.

But I'm going to take a critical "quick" look at what we have left and see if we have a legitimate shot at a bowl, even a decent one.



OUR SCHEDULE

Team--------------------Place---------Result--------Record/Projection

Bowling Green------------Away---------Loss-------------0-1

Colorado St--------------Home----------Win-------------1-1

Oklahoma----------------Away----------Loss-------------1-2

(Future Predictions)

Iowa State (0-2)---------Home----------TossupWin-------2-2

Rice (1-1)----------------Home----------TossupWin-------3-2

UTEP (1-1)---------------Away----------TossupWin-------4-2

Tulane (1-2)--------------Away----------TossupWin------5-2

UTSA (1-1)---------------Home----------Win--------------6-2

ECU (2-1)-----------------Away----------Loss-------------6-3

Marshall (2-1)-------------Home----------TossupWin-------7-3

La Tech (1-2)-------------Away----------TossupWin-------8-3

North Texas (2-1)---------Home-----------Win-------------9-3


My "optimistic" prediction is 9 wins, 3 losses - best case scenario.

Worst case would be 3-9.

We obviously have a lot of tossup games on the schedule.

If you take my best, worse case records and average them, you have a 6-6 season. IMO that is realisitically worst case so far as the realistic projection is. I think (85% sure) we go bowling.

I'm taking into consideration the strength of the teams we play and whether they are beatable. One of our advantages is that we only play one really tough game on the road - ECU. BTW, I think we lose that Rice game in Houston and probably Marshall if they were on the road.

So at this point, what do you "realsitically think the record will be?

OK, we're 2-4 with 6 games to go. I think our chances are decent/good we could pull out a 6-6 record from here on. I think all the home games are winnable yet close, even Marshall. But "at" ECU is still the probable loss. Our seasons success will depend on how well we can play against La Tech and Tulane this week IMO. Hopefully we get a split or better against those two. Beware of the Texas schools (NT and UTSA) who CAN beat us on a bad night.


So what would be an acceptable record from here on out? I think that nothing less than 6-6 would satisfy me and I'd be eccstatic with 7-5. Then next year we could go into the new league with about 18 starters coming back and a winning record. Nelson, Garrett back in the fold and a few other defenders who've been sidelined as well. Things could look good going into next season and we have OU at home.

But IMO we need to get Dane some reps somehow. That will hurt us down the line IMO. He needs to see the game field.

I like your optimism and I hope it all comes true, 6-6 that is......I had the Tulane game in the win column earlier in this year, now it's a toss up for sure if not a probably loss, ECU is also a probably loss, I don't think we can come close to keeping up with Marshall offensively........so that leaves 3 toss ups, hopefully wins, and two of those seem to be improving rapidly, UNT and UTSA.....I haven't kept up with La Tech that much so I'll say another toss up, hopefully a win. It will take one of our best efforts in every single game to come out of this 6-6 and it's hard to believe CG will have a near flawless game in everyone of those games.....especially if we get behind and have to pass more than 16 times. Fortunately none of these teams are going to be confused with a really good team so I'm still going to hope for the best.......and keep my fingers.......and toes......and eyes and anything else I can cross because I think we will need it!!!!

(09-15-2013 05:19 PM)rabidTU2 Wrote:  OK Good Folks, We have played three games, roughly 1/4 of the season (wow it goes fast). And our record is 1 win, 2 losses. I think realistically, we were hoping for a 2-1 record at this point, but we just can't play that Bowling Green game over.

But I'm going to take a critical "quick" look at what we have left and see if we have a legitimate shot at a bowl, even a decent one.



OUR SCHEDULE

Team--------------------Place---------Result--------Record/Projection

Bowling Green------------Away---------Loss-------------0-1

Colorado St--------------Home----------Win-------------1-1

Oklahoma----------------Away----------Loss-------------1-2

(Future Predictions)

Iowa State (0-2)---------Home----------TossupWin-------2-2

Rice (1-1)----------------Home----------TossupWin-------3-2

UTEP (1-1)---------------Away----------TossupWin-------4-2

Tulane (1-2)--------------Away----------TossupWin------5-2

UTSA (1-1)---------------Home----------Win--------------6-2

ECU (2-1)-----------------Away----------Loss-------------6-3

Marshall (2-1)-------------Home----------TossupWin-------7-3

La Tech (1-2)-------------Away----------TossupWin-------8-3

North Texas (2-1)---------Home-----------Win-------------9-3


My "optimistic" prediction is 9 wins, 3 losses - best case scenario.

Worst case would be 3-9.

We obviously have a lot of tossup games on the schedule.

If you take my best, worse case records and average them, you have a 6-6 season. IMO that is realisitically worst case so far as the realistic projection is. I think (85% sure) we go bowling.

I'm taking into consideration the strength of the teams we play and whether they are beatable. One of our advantages is that we only play one really tough game on the road - ECU. BTW, I think we lose that Rice game in Houston and probably Marshall if they were on the road.

So at this point, what do you "realsitically think the record will be?

Bump

Things have really gone downhill since I started this thread. Our tossup wins have pretty much turned to losses (except UTEP) and our sure win, became a blowout loss. We now need everyones pity. Poor Tulsa!

As of today, we are 2-6. I think we lose @ ECU. Then I see the last 3 as probable losses, but still possible wins. I will guess a loss against Marshall & at La Tech & an upset win against UNT at home. At least I hope we win one more. A 2-10 record will really hurt recruiting. If we can win one or 2 more, especially with Evans at QB, we may heal a little of our wounded pride.

This has been a disaster of a season so far, let's hope it ends better than it looks today.

With the way this team has been coached and played I don't see any wins the rest of the season. I said La Tech should be a win but now see a loss. ECU and Marshall are guaranteed losses unless a miracle happens. Yes Marshall is at home but UTSA beat Tulsa on homecoming by around 31-15. It should be worse with Marshall.