Greg H
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RE: Which team is the best in C-USA?
Your numbers re rushing D got me looking. Interesting stats:
Red Zone Offense: ECU 39, Marshall 8. I think that's another reason ECU needs to RUN MORE!
I just hope to God they don't decide to do it against us.
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11-11-2013 11:18 AM |
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RE: Which team is the best in C-USA?
(11-11-2013 11:18 AM)Greg H Wrote: Your numbers re rushing D got me looking. Interesting stats:
Red Zone Offense: ECU 39, Marshall 8. I think that's another reason ECU needs to RUN MORE!
I just hope to God they don't decide to do it against us.
We run plenty in the red zone…We have a good number of rushing touchdowns. Also our red zone issues are directly related to the attrition we have had at the receiver position. There were a few games in the middle of the season where we struggled to get the ball in the end zone and if you look at the timing it was right at the time we started losing a lot of receivers and our red zone tight end/full back. It took a few games for us to adjust and the new guys to get things going but appears that issue has been rectified. We have been one of the best red zone teams in the country over the last few seasons so again this is a matter of not digging deeper into a statistic and just making assumptions.
Also people are getting too caught up in our rushing numbers…Keep in mind while Carden has played well this year one area where he needs to improve is getting rid to the ball…Sometimes he holds it too long trying to make a play and takes unnecessary sacks which have negatively impacted our rushing numbers. Also our "run game" from a scheme standpoint includes a lot of screens…These plays are just an extension of the run game for us but the numbers fall under our passing game. Cooper is an excellent receiver and our screen game is pretty good so we use that a lot more than just handing the ball off but those plays have the same effect on a defense. So again here is another example of people just looking at a statistic and making an assumption.
I have said it many times on our own ECU board…Our rushing numbers are not because we are incapable of running the ball. Our run game from the perspective of handing the ball off to the back is just a token portion of our offense for window dressing…Riley prefers to move the ball using the short passing game along with a lot of screens. Now obviously it is debatable if that is the sound approach but it is hard to argue with the numbers at this point. One thing that is clear about the ECU offense…we are a pass first team and we reluctantly go to the run game from time to time.
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Greg H
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RE: Which team is the best in C-USA?
(11-11-2013 11:52 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:18 AM)Greg H Wrote: Your numbers re rushing D got me looking. Interesting stats:
Red Zone Offense: ECU 39, Marshall 8. I think that's another reason ECU needs to RUN MORE!
I just hope to God they don't decide to do it against us.
We run plenty in the red zone…We have a good number of rushing touchdowns. Also our red zone issues are directly related to the attrition we have had at the receiver position. There were a few games in the middle of the season where we struggled to get the ball in the end zone and if you look at the timing it was right at the time we started losing a lot of receivers and our red zone tight end/full back. It took a few games for us to adjust and the new guys to get things going but appears that issue has been rectified. We have been one of the best red zone teams in the country over the last few seasons so again this is a matter of not digging deeper into a statistic and just making assumptions.
Also people are getting too caught up in our rushing numbers…Keep in mind while Carden has played well this year one area where he needs to improve is getting rid to the ball…Sometimes he holds it too long trying to make a play and takes unnecessary sacks which have negatively impacted our rushing numbers. Also our "run game" from a scheme standpoint includes a lot of screens…These plays are just an extension of the run game for us but the numbers fall under our passing game. Cooper is an excellent receiver and our screen game is pretty good so we use that a lot more than just handing the ball off but those plays have the same effect on a defense. So again here is another example of people just looking at a statistic and making an assumption.
I have said it many times on our own ECU board…Our rushing numbers are not because we are incapable of running the ball. Our run game from the perspective of handing the ball off to the back is just a token portion of our offense for window dressing…Riley prefers to move the ball using the short passing game along with a lot of screens. Now obviously it is debatable if that is the sound approach but it is hard to argue with the numbers at this point. One thing that is clear about the ECU offense…we are a pass first team and we reluctantly go to the run game from time to time.
Not sure I'd dog Carden for taking sacks. For every sack he takes, he makes incredible plays with his feet. Honest to God, if I had to choose today between Carden and Cato, I'm not sure who I would take. It's going to be fun, especially since both teams are playing good defense.
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11-11-2013 01:51 PM |
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RE: Which team is the best in C-USA?
(11-11-2013 01:51 PM)Greg H Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:52 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:18 AM)Greg H Wrote: Your numbers re rushing D got me looking. Interesting stats:
Red Zone Offense: ECU 39, Marshall 8. I think that's another reason ECU needs to RUN MORE!
I just hope to God they don't decide to do it against us.
We run plenty in the red zone…We have a good number of rushing touchdowns. Also our red zone issues are directly related to the attrition we have had at the receiver position. There were a few games in the middle of the season where we struggled to get the ball in the end zone and if you look at the timing it was right at the time we started losing a lot of receivers and our red zone tight end/full back. It took a few games for us to adjust and the new guys to get things going but appears that issue has been rectified. We have been one of the best red zone teams in the country over the last few seasons so again this is a matter of not digging deeper into a statistic and just making assumptions.
Also people are getting too caught up in our rushing numbers…Keep in mind while Carden has played well this year one area where he needs to improve is getting rid to the ball…Sometimes he holds it too long trying to make a play and takes unnecessary sacks which have negatively impacted our rushing numbers. Also our "run game" from a scheme standpoint includes a lot of screens…These plays are just an extension of the run game for us but the numbers fall under our passing game. Cooper is an excellent receiver and our screen game is pretty good so we use that a lot more than just handing the ball off but those plays have the same effect on a defense. So again here is another example of people just looking at a statistic and making an assumption.
I have said it many times on our own ECU board…Our rushing numbers are not because we are incapable of running the ball. Our run game from the perspective of handing the ball off to the back is just a token portion of our offense for window dressing…Riley prefers to move the ball using the short passing game along with a lot of screens. Now obviously it is debatable if that is the sound approach but it is hard to argue with the numbers at this point. One thing that is clear about the ECU offense…we are a pass first team and we reluctantly go to the run game from time to time.
Not sure I'd dog Carden for taking sacks. For every sack he takes, he makes incredible plays with his feet. Honest to God, if I had to choose today between Carden and Cato, I'm not sure who I would take. It's going to be fun, especially since both teams are playing good defense.
Carden has rushed for 218 yards, lost 173, for a net of 45. He is fine when bails out of the pocket to buy time, but there are times he stays into the pocket too long and tries to bail late losing 10+ yards on a sack. That is the one issue he has. Some times I'd wish he'd just run for 3-4 yards in those cases, take off 2-3 seconds earlier.
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11-11-2013 06:41 PM |
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RE: Which team is the best in C-USA?
(11-11-2013 01:51 PM)Greg H Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:52 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote: (11-11-2013 11:18 AM)Greg H Wrote: Your numbers re rushing D got me looking. Interesting stats:
Red Zone Offense: ECU 39, Marshall 8. I think that's another reason ECU needs to RUN MORE!
I just hope to God they don't decide to do it against us.
We run plenty in the red zone…We have a good number of rushing touchdowns. Also our red zone issues are directly related to the attrition we have had at the receiver position. There were a few games in the middle of the season where we struggled to get the ball in the end zone and if you look at the timing it was right at the time we started losing a lot of receivers and our red zone tight end/full back. It took a few games for us to adjust and the new guys to get things going but appears that issue has been rectified. We have been one of the best red zone teams in the country over the last few seasons so again this is a matter of not digging deeper into a statistic and just making assumptions.
Also people are getting too caught up in our rushing numbers…Keep in mind while Carden has played well this year one area where he needs to improve is getting rid to the ball…Sometimes he holds it too long trying to make a play and takes unnecessary sacks which have negatively impacted our rushing numbers. Also our "run game" from a scheme standpoint includes a lot of screens…These plays are just an extension of the run game for us but the numbers fall under our passing game. Cooper is an excellent receiver and our screen game is pretty good so we use that a lot more than just handing the ball off but those plays have the same effect on a defense. So again here is another example of people just looking at a statistic and making an assumption.
I have said it many times on our own ECU board…Our rushing numbers are not because we are incapable of running the ball. Our run game from the perspective of handing the ball off to the back is just a token portion of our offense for window dressing…Riley prefers to move the ball using the short passing game along with a lot of screens. Now obviously it is debatable if that is the sound approach but it is hard to argue with the numbers at this point. One thing that is clear about the ECU offense…we are a pass first team and we reluctantly go to the run game from time to time.
Not sure I'd dog Carden for taking sacks. For every sack he takes, he makes incredible plays with his feet. Honest to God, if I had to choose today between Carden and Cato, I'm not sure who I would take. It's going to be fun, especially since both teams are playing good defense.
I am not dogging Carden at all…I think he would agree with my statement. It is a fine line for sure because he does make a lot of plays by extending plays and you do not want to stifle that ability.
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RE: Which team is the best in C-USA?
USM is still the best team in C-USA
Ace...
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11-12-2013 12:47 PM |
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Greg H
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RE: Which team is the best in C-USA?
(11-12-2013 12:47 PM)Ace Barker Wrote: USM is still the best team in C-USA
Ace...
Do you mind sharing your drugs with me? Please?
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