(10-10-2013 06:23 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-10-2013 06:21 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(10-10-2013 08:31 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(10-09-2013 08:57 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(10-09-2013 02:49 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  I'll do so Wedge as top tier FBS schools have various reasons for their FBS schedules. In the writer's world, how does he plan to butterfly away the state mandated games that Clemson and SCAR must play against SC State and The Citadel? His position is strictly fan based and neglects that both FBS and FCS school benefit from the current arrangement. While's he was thoroughly entertained by that UGA/Clemson game, it really hasn't benefited the Dawgs. People still lament that UGA has played North Texas and will play GA Southern later this year.

If you play in a conference that is highly respected, there's no reason to try and schedule a difficult OOC. tOSU SOS is only marginally better than Louisville, but rest assured that they will get in ahead of a 1-loss SEC team, no matter how 'good' that loss is. Ultimately, the marginal ROI preclude schools from wanting to schedule the intersectional matchups. Maybe the CFP and networks can change that (ESPN was a big reason for such a great opening weekend to the CFB season), but I'm doubtful.

Those games aren't state mandated, it's just a practice both schools have adopten

OK, thanks. I had always heard otherwise.

It seems to be a misconception everywhere, even among SC/Clemson fans

The change we need in scheduling is gonna come at the conference level. Limit teams to certain number of games against non power schools.

And that will only happen if all the P5 conferences do it at once.

The SEC has no reason to change it's scheduling model right now - it is working for them. Until it stops working, status quo.

Yeah, the SEC is the least likely to change.

It's funny how teams without traditional OOC rivals like Tennessee get praised for playing tough OOC teams but South Carolina, Florida, etc get no credit for playing Clemson or FSU EVERY year.

People can poke fun at us playing Coastal or the Citadel annually, but we are also playing 3 BCSAQ schools this year. I don't think many schools are doing that.

last year Ohio State averaged $5.1 million in ticket revenue for every home game. Their OOC scheduling philosophy is to schedule 3 home pay for play games vs G5 and FCS and 1 home/away series with a low level P5 team, giving them 7 home OOC games every two years.

Even if they pay $1m each for their buyout games that's still $5.1m ticket rev/gm x 7 games= $35.7m - $6m buyouts = $29.7m ticket revenue - travel expenses for 1 away game, every 2 years.

If they were forced to abandon this model in exchange for all home/away games and play a clean 4/8 at home every 2 years the math would be $5.1m ticket rev/gm x 4 games= $20.1m ticket revenue - travel expenses for 4 away games, every two years.

The total loss for the Buckeyes on a two year cycle of OOC games would be -$9.6m in ticket revenue + travel expenses for 3 additional road games. That's a lot of $$$, even for a cash cow like OSU.

Not to mention the fact that playing 7/8 home games, and 6/8 games against out gunned opponents, makes for a favorable September for a team that is likely to start the preseason rankings in a very favorable spot.

I'm all in favor of making the big dogs come off the porch to defend their yard.

Does anyone think a 4-loss UCLA team is going to get better treatment from the polls/computers/bowls than a 3-loss B1G/SEC team which schedules FCS cupcakes? Nope. And that's why there's no disadvantage to scheduling FCS creampuffs.

(10-10-2013 06:06 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-10-2013 05:59 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(10-10-2013 04:28 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  #3 - Why should a state school like Arizona State be forced to pay $1 million for a scrub to come and bring no crowd, when they can keep the money in-state by paying NAU $500K, and get 2-3 K Lumberjack fans attending? Especially when NAU is better than the scrub FBSino team?

Nobody would force ASU to do anything, if they want to play NAU they can, it just shouldn't count in FBS standings.

A D-I hoops team can play a D-II hoops team each season as an exhibition game that doesn't count in the standings. FBS v. FCS football games should be classified the same way.

If it doesn't count, they won't play.

They will play, when they are allowed to play 12 regular-season games plus one exhibition. That would also be the same as basketball, where the exhibition game against a D-II opponent doesn't count against the allowed number of regular-season games.

(10-10-2013 05:59 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(10-10-2013 04:28 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  #3 - Why should a state school like Arizona State be forced to pay $1 million for a scrub to come and bring no crowd, when they can keep the money in-state by paying NAU $500K, and get 2-3 K Lumberjack fans attending? Especially when NAU is better than the scrub FBSino team?

Nobody would force ASU to do anything, if they want to play NAU they can, it just shouldn't count in FBS standings.

A D-I hoops team can play a D-II hoops team each season as an exhibition game that doesn't count in the standings. FBS v. FCS football games should be classified the same way.

That would solve all the problems I have with playing FCS teams. Play 11 FBS opponents and 1 FCS and then only count the FBS teams towards strength of schedule. That would be fantastic!

(10-10-2013 04:13 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  

(10-10-2013 11:46 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-10-2013 10:36 AM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  IMO, a 1A school should NEVER schedule a 1AA school unless that 1aa school is going into 1a and they are in their transitional scheduling they have to play.

Why?

Why beat up on a scrub opponent? I mean there are plenty of "lower tier" D1 schools to play.... why schedule a 1aa?

It might be taking a scrub to the woodshed, but it doesn't matter to them.

I reckon that FAMU stinks this year. So be it. In any case, getting $950k from their visit to Columbus was more important than losing 76-0, which has no effect on them in the D1-AA world.

I reckon FAMU stinks because they only beat Savannah State on the road 27-14. I doubt they got paid well to win, FWIW.

Feel no pity. Two parties sign those contracts.