To me, this was not a good day for Notre Dame at all. They lost, ending any hope of making the BCS(I don't see them at 9-3 even beating Stanford getting up to top 14).

Then for them the bad thing was Kansas St beating Texas Tech. That gives Kansas St now 5 wins, with games left vs TCU, Oklahoma, and Kansas. They should get to 6 wins easily and bowl eligible. Then WV is 4-6 even after tonight's tough loss. They have 2 games left- Kansas and Iowa St. They should get to 6 and be bowl eligible. That gives the Big 12 7 teams and all 7 bowls filled. Only thing that could happen is if Oklahoma made the BCS, Pinstripe would get open.

Notre Dame isn't going to have a great choice this year.
Right now only 12 spots before the BCS would add to this number are available.
AAC- 2 BBVA Compass, Beef O'Brady- 1 team with 5 wins right now

Big 12- Meineke Car Care, Pinstripe-1 team with 5 wins

Big Ten- Little Ceaser's

SEC- BBVA Compass, Advocare V100(Independence)-1 with 5 wins

CUSA- New Orleans

MWC- Famous Idaho-2 with 5 wins that don't play each other

Army- Poinsettia(already not bowl eligible)

Navy- Armed Forces.-they have 5 wins

If conferences get 2nd BCS team with no more eligibles- these bowls open up:
ACC- Military
B12- Holiday
B10- Heart Of Dallas
SEC- Liberty
P12- still ok

I saw a projection for the bowls that made a lot of sense- Notre Dame going to the Little Ceaser's Bowl where they would play Northern Illinois.

Another thing that could happen- if SEC doesn't have enough for the BBVA Compass, they could force the switch again with the AAC- making the game AAC vs SEC. That likely will happen- Tennessee would have to beat Vandy(don't think so) along with Mississippi St losing 2 times(Alabama is one, other one would be either Ole Miss or Arkansas). Something to watch out for down the stretch. AAC team would likely be Houston I think, though I could see them trying to put a better team there.

Right now the entire total of bowl eligible teams is 58.
4 more where games with 5 win teams- factored into the conferences by the way...
Navy/San Jose St
Maryland/BC
Pittsburgh/Syracuse
San Diego St/UNLV
So that's 62 we're guaranteed to get up to.

if BC/Syracuse both lose, they play each other the 30th of Nov with winner in.

I think the ACC and SEC will fill their bowl slots. I'm starting to think, for the ACC, Maryland might get left out even if they are eligible.

The ACC has a rule that forces bowls to pick teams based on their conference record, with a limited exception. As long as Maryland finishes at least 1 game ahead of the last bowl-eligible team in the conference, they'll go to an ACC bowl. That said, if they finish 2-6 in conference play they will be the last bowl eligible team. If they get to 7-5 (3-5) and the ACC gets a BCS at-large berth, the Terrapins will go bowling.

(11-10-2013 09:15 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  The ACC has a rule that forces bowls to pick teams based on their conference record, with a limited exception. As long as Maryland finishes at least 1 game ahead of the last bowl-eligible team in the conference, they'll go to an ACC bowl. That said, if they finish 2-6 in conference play they will be the last bowl eligible team. If they get to 7-5 (3-5) and the ACC gets a BCS at-large berth, the Terrapins will go bowling.

Correct. I just don't see that happening. They would have to beat 2 of the 3 between VT, BC, and NC State. I can potentially see 1 win but not 2.

(11-10-2013 03:28 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I saw a projection for the bowls that made a lot of sense- Notre Dame going to the Little Ceaser's Bowl where they would play Northern Illinois.

I think that depends on a 50:50 or better chance that NIU trips up in one of the three coming games ... they ended up with the meat of their in-conference schedule at the end of the season, and Fresno doesn't have as hard a run to end, so Fresno is more likely to end up undefeated.

If NIU does win out, they'll be beating their best in-conference competition on November ESPN Maction broadcasts, and the computers will also be kinder to them than to Fresno for winning out the rest of their schedule, so they might not even be available for the Detroit Pizza Pizza Bowl Bowl to pick.

(11-10-2013 09:31 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-10-2013 09:15 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  The ACC has a rule that forces bowls to pick teams based on their conference record, with a limited exception. As long as Maryland finishes at least 1 game ahead of the last bowl-eligible team in the conference, they'll go to an ACC bowl. That said, if they finish 2-6 in conference play they will be the last bowl eligible team. If they get to 7-5 (3-5) and the ACC gets a BCS at-large berth, the Terrapins will go bowling.

Correct. I just don't see that happening. They would have to beat 2 of the 3 between VT, BC, and NC State. I can potentially see 1 win but not 2.

I could see them beating both BC and NC State and VT has not been consistant. Yes they just beat Miami so perhaps they have found themselves but 2 out of 3 sure seems possible.

(11-10-2013 08:35 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think the ACC and SEC will fill their bowl slots. I'm starting to think, for the ACC, Maryland might get left out even if they are eligible.

I think the SEC likely shorts the Advo Care by getting 10 eligible and sending two to the BCS.

If Maryland gets eligible, the only way they don't go to a ACC bowl is if 10 ACC teams get eligible. Right now they have 6. Would have to mean that of the group of Syracuse, BC, Wake, NC State, UNC, and Pitt- 6 teams- 4 become eligible. Maryland plays NC State, so if they win that game, NC State is out.

(11-10-2013 11:48 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-10-2013 08:35 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think the ACC and SEC will fill their bowl slots. I'm starting to think, for the ACC, Maryland might get left out even if they are eligible.

I think the SEC likely shorts the Advo Care by getting 10 eligible and sending two to the BCS.

That's what Palm is projecting guessing this week -- he has Notre Dame playing Duke in Shreveport. If that turns out to be the only "vacancy" that offers Notre Dame the opportunity to play a P5 team in a bowl game, then that seems a likely destination for them.

(11-10-2013 12:23 PM)stever20 Wrote:  If Maryland gets eligible, the only way they don't go to a ACC bowl is if 10 ACC teams get eligible. Right now they have 6. Would have to mean that of the group of Syracuse, BC, Wake, NC State, UNC, and Pitt- 6 teams- 4 become eligible. Maryland plays NC State, so if they win that game, NC State is out.

It's going to be close for both conferences. SEC has 8 eligible teams and another 4 possibles (UF, Vandy, Tenn, Miss St). The ACC has 6 eligible and another 5 possibles (Syr, BC, MD, UNC, Pitt --I don't count NC State at all).

(11-10-2013 12:30 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(11-10-2013 11:48 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-10-2013 08:35 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think the ACC and SEC will fill their bowl slots. I'm starting to think, for the ACC, Maryland might get left out even if they are eligible.

I think the SEC likely shorts the Advo Care by getting 10 eligible and sending two to the BCS.

That's what Palm is projecting guessing this week -- he has Notre Dame playing Duke in Shreveport. If that turns out to be the only "vacancy" that offers Notre Dame the opportunity to play a P5 team in a bowl game, then that seems a likely destination for them.

I think the fact that it's an ACC team makes that very reasonable.

List of bowls that are projecting to have openings.

Poinsettia: This one is a done deal and the MAC will be sending a school to San Diego.

Beef O'Brady: The AAC is all but certain to have only 5 bowl eligible teams. The MAC placed Ball State here last year and has a secondary agreement.

Independence: This game is contracted to be SEC #10 vs. ACC #7. However the SEC is only projecting 9 bowl eligible schools at this time. The MAC has placed schools here in the past and a matchup vs. ACC #7 would be desirable.

BBVA: Projected to be SEC #9 vs. AAC #4. Again the SEC isn't projected to fill this placing 2 teams in the BCS. The AAC would be a decent opponent though for an 8-4/9-3 type MAC team.

Potato: MAC #3 vs. MWC #6. The MWC is projecting only 6 teams with 6 wins at this time. If Fresno heads to a BCS bowl this game could very well be open, filled by a team like Texas State from the SBC. It will impact the MAC positively if open taking an SBC school of the table for other at-large openings.

LCPB: MAC vs. B1G #8. The B1G is currently projecting 7 bowl eligible teams. This sounds like a potential opening for Western Kentucky from the SBC to play BG or Toledo.

(11-10-2013 01:37 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-10-2013 12:30 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(11-10-2013 11:48 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-10-2013 08:35 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think the ACC and SEC will fill their bowl slots. I'm starting to think, for the ACC, Maryland might get left out even if they are eligible.

I think the SEC likely shorts the Advo Care by getting 10 eligible and sending two to the BCS.

That's what Palm is projecting guessing this week -- he has Notre Dame playing Duke in Shreveport. If that turns out to be the only "vacancy" that offers Notre Dame the opportunity to play a P5 team in a bowl game, then that seems a likely destination for them.

I think the fact that it's an ACC team makes that very reasonable.

Good catch on Notre Dame needing a home this year. Shreveport does make a lot of sense since its against ACC #7.

What a pickup for the Independence Bowl that would be.