I'll never forget seeing Roy Kramer look directly into the camera and laugh almost like a cackle after being asked if the BCS was fair. I knew then it was shady and it's only been proven to do what it was intended to do and that was keep power in one place. I've been one of the loudest and staunchest critics of the BCS since it's beginnings. I've written countless letters to the BCS itself, the NCAA, my own schools, conferences, politicians, and a host of other people that are either directly involved with or affected by the BCS. It's well documented on good ole message boards like these where I've stood. Unlike the BCS Ive never changed my argument or methodology. I've been waiting for over a decade for next year to come and a playoff begin.

So it's only fitting that the damn BCS has its last laugh and smacks me in the mouth just as it's done to college sports in general as I've sat here waiting for the BCS rankings to know where Marshall and Rice will play. It obviously played out as it did and of course in typical BCS fuzzy math fashion it's cloudy and questions are asked due to the nature of their compiling numbers. I find myself laughing at this situation but take solace in the literal Death to the BCS and I can only hope that the damage that's been done by the BCS on college sports isn't reversible.

It's a damn ironic world we live in.

It was a heck of a lot better than anything they had before, where many years #1 and #2 didn't even get to play against each other.

Also I never got the hate by the non bcs. More non-BCS schools had higher rankings and access over the last decade than I ever can find before. Any system that can allow overrated teams like Hawaii to play the worst SOS in the nation and still get to play in a major bowl wasn't exactly stacked against us. You do realize before that an unbeaten team like that would have got to play some 6-5 Michigan team in the Holiday bowl.

The major schools always had the major bowls tied in, money, and recruiting advantage. All the BCS did was put a name on it and actually give us access if you were either good enough or played the system well enough like a Hawaii you could cash those checks too if you deserved them, but people are to blind to see it. It was certainly better than the system in place before.

Claiming its "better than it was before" doesn't validate the BCS nor is it even true. There was no playoff before nor was there one during the BCS era. Naming obscure made-up bowl matchups doesn't validate anything either. Your claims of a supposed #1 vs #2 is also a falsehood as it's based on ever changing math from year to year and the addition and removal of polls. There has never been a clear cut #1 vs #2 which is the same as it was before but in the BCS era you are told that's what it is and expected to just accept it. Every excuse in the book was used to validate the ever changing claims of the success to include some of the opinions you laid out.

You also point to money as if that's a driving point. It is. However the money is there and it was well documented for over a decade how much more money would be there for a playoff but that means inclusion and the BCS is about segregation. The fact that you are do quick to eliminate a team based on SOS is ridiculous. Conference champions deserve to play for more and the bowls were the problem. Again you try to validate the BCS by saying a school works the system and gets paid. That isn't a reward that's the problem not to mention it's well documented how schools lose money to include those in the BCS Bowl games.

The BCS lacked validity and substance and that's why it's been hated from the start. To just accept what it gives doesn't mean it works.

(12-02-2013 01:18 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  Claiming its "better than it was before" doesn't validate the BCS nor is it even true. There was no playoff before nor was there one during the BCS era. Naming obscure made-up bowl matchups doesn't validate anything either. Your claims of a supposed #1 vs #2 is also a falsehood as it's based on ever changing math from year to year and the addition and removal of polls. There has never been a clear cut #1 vs #2 which is the same as it was before but in the BCS era you are told that's what it is and expected to just accept it.

It gets it a heck of a lot closer than it did 20 years ago. While some years their may be some debate you absolutely get 2 of the best 2 or 3 teams playing head to head where as that wasn't even assure before and in many case didn't even happen. Regardless of the system there will be teams left out others feel are deserving. I mean people ***** over the 36th at large pick left out of the NCAA basketball tourny. I really see it as no different than than any other selection process. You play a schedule worthy and you build your resume and don't give them a reason not to include you.

Quote:You also point to money as if that's a driving point. It is. However the money is there and it was well documented for over a decade how much more money would be there for a playoff but that means inclusion and the BCS is about segregation.

Whatever dude. Those major conference schools always had the major bowls and money, recruiting advantage etc. Nothing really changed for the worst. As a matter a fact a teams can now play in those major bowls and cash that check that never would have had the opportunity to 20 years ago. How is that really so bad.

Quote:The fact that you are do quick to eliminate a team based on SOS is ridiculous.

Did you not see that Hawaii team get embarrassed. The fact that they even got in having played the worst SOS just hows how it was even easier for undeserving teams even to have access. Heck there were multiple non BCS teams that went to BCS bowls one year, and even 1 loss ones. The system didn't shaft the little guys like people want to pretend. I actually think in many cases it gave them more access than they even really deserved.

Quote:Conference champions deserve to play for more and the bowls were the problem.

The CUSA champ this year deserves nothing as little as this conference did. You think the Sun Belt deserves anything? Being a "champion" of some scrub conference shouldn't entitle you to anything if it's really about the best teams.

Quote:Again you try to validate the BCS by saying a school works the system and gets paid. That isn't a reward that's the problem not to mention it's well documented how schools lose money to include those in the BCS Bowl games.

You think the Bowls make more money with NIU in them or someone like LSU or Georgia who BTW had a better season and was ranked higher last year. The system was set up in a way though that allowed NIU in. Hey but the system was really the devil and stacked against the non BCS. They promptly lost badly too.

Quote:The BCS lacked validity and substance and that's why it's been hated from the start. To just accept what it gives doesn't mean it works.

I just said it was better than what they had before, and better for teams like ours that had zero access 20 years ago.