(12-22-2013 09:49 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm done with you. You are a proponent of illegal immigration. A parasite. A sellout and a numskull. There is no point arguing your ridiculous and dangerous views.

You can't understand what you're reading.

(12-22-2013 09:51 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  

(12-22-2013 09:49 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm done with you. You are a proponent of illegal immigration. A parasite. A sellout and a numskull. There is no point arguing your ridiculous and dangerous views.

You can't understand what you're reading.

Oh I understand. I just refuse to argue with idiots and leftist lunatics.

(12-22-2013 08:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  and BTW raider - when you force one culture on another without a assimilation process in place, you create subcultures that clash. That is a proven sociological fact. That is also what is happening.

This statement is what is throwing Raider off...

You state you are only asking for immigrants to be legal. But when you make reference to culture, you co-mingle legal and illegal immigrants to an extent.

This sounds more along the lines of fear of loss of identity. But then again, which of the many identities within this country is the "only acceptable" one?

My kids are half-Hispanic (2nd generation). Although they are raised in El Paso (heavily Hispanic), there isn't a trace of the "conflicting culture" you refer to, left. They don't speak Spanish (although I wish they were bilingual), nor do they have any foreign values. They consider themselves 100% American. At least they did, until we drove through Oklahoma, and heard kids making fun of a kid that looked Hispanic with racial jokes.

Point- generalization of any type, is a problem in itself.

(12-22-2013 10:07 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(12-22-2013 08:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  and BTW raider - when you force one culture on another without a assimilation process in place, you create subcultures that clash. That is a proven sociological fact. That is also what is happening.

This statement is what is throwing Raider off...

You state you are only asking for immigrants to be legal. But when you make reference to culture, you co-mingle legal and illegal immigrants to an extent.

This sounds more along the lines of fear of loss of identity. But then again, which of the many identities within this country is the "only acceptable" one?

My kids are half-Hispanic (2nd generation). Although they are raised in El Paso (heavily Hispanic), there isn't a trace of the "conflicting culture" you refer to, left. They don't speak Spanish (although I wish they were bilingual), nor do they have any foreign values. They consider themselves 100% American. At least they did, until we drove through Oklahoma, and heard kids making fun of a kid that looked Hispanic with racial jokes.

Point- generalization of any type, is a problem in itself.

El Paso is understandable. Not the Oklahoma Arkansas area I grew up. This is not a Spanish speaking area. It's no different than the Hispanics in Santa Fe New Mexico having a problem with the Aztec culture coming up from Mexico. Believe me, they are much more critical than I am. It is an invasive culture. Everyone has the right to defend and protect their regional culture.

Illegal immigration only amplifies the problem. It bypasses assimilation. The illegals around here are beginning to obtain a little attitude. They have numbers now and are refusing to adhere to our local identity. They want to transform the landscape.

(12-22-2013 10:19 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(12-22-2013 10:07 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(12-22-2013 08:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  and BTW raider - when you force one culture on another without a assimilation process in place, you create subcultures that clash. That is a proven sociological fact. That is also what is happening.

This statement is what is throwing Raider off...

You state you are only asking for immigrants to be legal. But when you make reference to culture, you co-mingle legal and illegal immigrants to an extent.

This sounds more along the lines of fear of loss of identity. But then again, which of the many identities within this country is the "only acceptable" one?

My kids are half-Hispanic (2nd generation). Although they are raised in El Paso (heavily Hispanic), there isn't a trace of the "conflicting culture" you refer to, left. They don't speak Spanish (although I wish they were bilingual), nor do they have any foreign values. They consider themselves 100% American. At least they did, until we drove through Oklahoma, and heard kids making fun of a kid that looked Hispanic with racial jokes.

Point- generalization of any type, is a problem in itself.

El Paso is understandable. Not the Oklahoma Arkansas area I grew up. This is not a Spanish speaking area. It's no different than the Hispanics in Santa Fe New Mexico having a problem with the Aztec culture coming up from Mexico. Believe me, they are much more critical than I am. It is an invasive culture. Everyone has the right to defend and protect their regional culture.

Illegal immigration only amplifies the problem. It bypasses assimilation. The illegals around here are beginning to obtain a little attitude. They have numbers now and are refusing to adhere to our local identity. They want to transform the landscape.

I think I know what you are saying.

(12-22-2013 01:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-22-2013 01:31 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(12-22-2013 12:33 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-22-2013 12:19 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(12-22-2013 11:51 AM)RobertN Wrote:  When did I say they weren't? I was talking to the racists on this board like Oklalittledickie and you who hate anyone of color and want to see them out of the country so they can be left with their all white utopia.

Moi? I am of color, and I can tell you hate me. So now who's the racist?

Ah. So you are Latino. Guess you should have a word with Oklalittledickie about his wanting to deport you and or mandate you live by his cultural beliefs.

Pyrizzo is probably legal. Once again you demonstrate how much of a fool you are.

What is your point? Oklalittledickie would still want to deport and/or force him into his culture.

I am legal, hispanic, and a veteran (I'm not too fond of the latino label). I don't think dixie would want to deport such a contributable citizen of society no matter the color. If he does, well then that's another problem. The real problem is those who evade the tax system, legal or not, and anyone who does should be deported, legal or not. If you are a foreign national and can provide proof of work inclusive of you paying your full income tax with no returns, deductions or credits, then you should be allowed a work visa after a thorough background check of course. And any instance of tax evasion amounts to immediate revocation of the visa, hefty fines for the employer if they are an accomplice and immediate deportation. (I know I'll ruffle some feathers with that but I don't care).