THis would be huge:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...fying-redo

i'm thinking its a way to get ND in the acc football playing only 6 games?

(01-10-2014 11:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Guys, there's only ONE division setup that makes any sense:

1-word schools
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Louisville
Virginia
Duke
Clemson
Miami

2-word schools
Florida State
Ga Tech
NC State (OK, that's 3 words)
N Carolina
Wake Forest
Va Tech
Boston College

That's actually not that bad except FSU would have a problem.

(01-10-2014 11:50 AM)bluesox Wrote:  THis would be huge:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...fying-redo

i'm thinking its a way to get ND in the acc football playing only 6 games?

The beauty of that would be that, with 15 members, the league could let 7 of them play Miami the first year, and the other 7 get to play them the next. That way, every school gets a home and home with the Canes every four years. That should end a lot of the complaining about recruiting advantages based on divisions.

(01-10-2014 08:16 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 02:33 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I don't know Syracuse and I don't give a sh*t about Syracuse. But I know it wouldn't fit in this fantasy world "urban division". I know it's not more urban than Pitt, BC, Miami, GT, NC State or UL. If you want to argue Cuse over Wake, UNC or Duke, go for it, but Cuse isn't substantially more "urban" than either of those other two regions.

Also, I don't think your AD is as dumb as you're making him out to be. There's no way somebody is that f*cking stupid.

So you think that inner city NYC, Boston, and Philly (i.e. where we recruit) isn't more "urban" than NC. Interesting theory.

And, in the wake of the "@fineout: Syracuse AD emailed ACC directors in Nov. lamenting current structure and said it minimized chance for teams to play in major media markets" report, you think tht it's my theory tht SU wants to play in a more urban division. That's also an interesting theory.

Hey, jabroni, there aren't any ACC schools in NYC or Philly.

(01-10-2014 09:28 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 02:33 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I don't know Syracuse and I don't give a sh*t about Syracuse. But I know it wouldn't fit in this fantasy world "urban division". I know it's not more urban than Pitt, BC, Miami, GT, NC State or UL. If you want to argue Cuse over Wake, UNC or Duke, go for it, but Cuse isn't substantially more "urban" than either of those other two regions.

Also, I don't think your AD is as dumb as you're making him out to be. There's no way somebody is that f*cking stupid.

The crux of the problem...you commenting on stuff you don't know sh*t about.

You bunny foo foos are great.

You numbnuts actually think you know the ACC and can dictate the direction of the conference. Maybe your AD *is* that f*cking stupid!

(01-10-2014 11:50 AM)bluesox Wrote:  THis would be huge:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...fying-redo

i'm thinking its a way to get ND in the acc football playing only 6 games?

Horrific idea. If they don't play a full ACC schedule, they should not be in the ACC and eligible for the ACC CG and the corresponding bowls/playoff slot (if one comes about).

(01-10-2014 11:51 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 11:46 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Guys, there's only ONE division setup that makes any sense:

1-word schools
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Louisville
Virginia
Duke
Clemson
Miami

2-word schools
Florida State
Ga Tech
NC State (OK, that's 3 words)
N Carolina
Wake Forest
Va Tech
Boston College

That's actually not that bad except FSU would have a problem.

Hmm, The Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University, The Georgia Institute of Technology. The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, I count more than two words.

UNC is still pissed at having the at CH added in the 1960's. :)

(01-10-2014 01:22 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 11:50 AM)bluesox Wrote:  THis would be huge:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...fying-redo

i'm thinking its a way to get ND in the acc football playing only 6 games?

Horrific idea. If they don't play a full ACC schedule, they should not be in the ACC and eligible for the ACC CG and the corresponding bowls/playoff slot (if one comes about).

I have to agree w/ you here. ND just needs to accept two more games and then they'd qualify for the ACC Title Game.

Boston College----Louisville
Syracuse----------Pittsburgh
Virginia------------Virginia Tech
North Carolina-----NC State
Duke---------------Wake
Georgia Tech------Clemson
Miami--------------Florida State

Let's do it!

Plus we get the Atlantic name.

(01-10-2014 01:05 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 08:16 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 02:33 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I don't know Syracuse and I don't give a sh*t about Syracuse. But I know it wouldn't fit in this fantasy world "urban division". I know it's not more urban than Pitt, BC, Miami, GT, NC State or UL. If you want to argue Cuse over Wake, UNC or Duke, go for it, but Cuse isn't substantially more "urban" than either of those other two regions.

Also, I don't think your AD is as dumb as you're making him out to be. There's no way somebody is that f*cking stupid.

So you think that inner city NYC, Boston, and Philly (i.e. where we recruit) isn't more "urban" than NC. Interesting theory.

And, in the wake of the "@fineout: Syracuse AD emailed ACC directors in Nov. lamenting current structure and said it minimized chance for teams to play in major media markets" report, you think tht it's my theory tht SU wants to play in a more urban division. That's also an interesting theory.

Hey, jabroni, there aren't any ACC schools in NYC or Philly.

(01-10-2014 09:28 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 02:33 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I don't know Syracuse and I don't give a sh*t about Syracuse. But I know it wouldn't fit in this fantasy world "urban division". I know it's not more urban than Pitt, BC, Miami, GT, NC State or UL. If you want to argue Cuse over Wake, UNC or Duke, go for it, but Cuse isn't substantially more "urban" than either of those other two regions.

Also, I don't think your AD is as dumb as you're making him out to be. There's no way somebody is that f*cking stupid.

The crux of the problem...you commenting on stuff you don't know sh*t about.

You bunny foo foos are great.

You numbnuts actually think you know the ACC and can dictate the direction of the conference. Maybe your AD *is* that f*cking stupid!

There aren't any ACC schools in Los Angeles, Assisi, Cape Town, or Juneau either. What's your point?

(01-10-2014 07:00 PM)esayem Wrote:  WINE DIV.--------BEER DIV.
Boston College----Louisville
Syracuse----------Pittsburgh
Virginia------------Virginia Tech
North Carolina-----NC State
Duke---------------Wake
Georgia Tech------Clemson
Miami--------------Florida State

Let's do it!

Plus we get the Atlantic WINE name.

FIFY.

(01-10-2014 07:01 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 01:05 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 08:16 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 02:33 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I don't know Syracuse and I don't give a sh*t about Syracuse. But I know it wouldn't fit in this fantasy world "urban division". I know it's not more urban than Pitt, BC, Miami, GT, NC State or UL. If you want to argue Cuse over Wake, UNC or Duke, go for it, but Cuse isn't substantially more "urban" than either of those other two regions.

Also, I don't think your AD is as dumb as you're making him out to be. There's no way somebody is that f*cking stupid.

So you think that inner city NYC, Boston, and Philly (i.e. where we recruit) isn't more "urban" than NC. Interesting theory.

And, in the wake of the "@fineout: Syracuse AD emailed ACC directors in Nov. lamenting current structure and said it minimized chance for teams to play in major media markets" report, you think tht it's my theory tht SU wants to play in a more urban division. That's also an interesting theory.

Hey, jabroni, there aren't any ACC schools in NYC or Philly.

(01-10-2014 09:28 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 02:33 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I don't know Syracuse and I don't give a sh*t about Syracuse. But I know it wouldn't fit in this fantasy world "urban division". I know it's not more urban than Pitt, BC, Miami, GT, NC State or UL. If you want to argue Cuse over Wake, UNC or Duke, go for it, but Cuse isn't substantially more "urban" than either of those other two regions.

Also, I don't think your AD is as dumb as you're making him out to be. There's no way somebody is that f*cking stupid.

The crux of the problem...you commenting on stuff you don't know sh*t about.

You bunny foo foos are great.

You numbnuts actually think you know the ACC and can dictate the direction of the conference. Maybe your AD *is* that f*cking stupid!

There aren't any ACC schools in Los Angeles, Assisi, Cape Town, or Juneau either. What's your point?

Rearranging the divisions to play more "urban" games has no affect on Cuse playing in NYC or Philly. You know, since there aren't any ACC teams in those cities...

(01-10-2014 09:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 07:00 PM)esayem Wrote:  WINE DIV.--------BEER DIV.
Boston College----Louisville
Syracuse----------Pittsburgh
Virginia------------Virginia Tech
North Carolina-----NC State
Duke---------------Wake
Georgia Tech------Clemson
Miami--------------Florida State

Let's do it!

Plus we get the Atlantic WINE name.

FIFY.

Miami isn't wine. LOL

Cheese and Wine would be better.
- Sam Cassell

(01-11-2014 01:34 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 07:01 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 01:05 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 08:16 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 02:33 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I don't know Syracuse and I don't give a sh*t about Syracuse. But I know it wouldn't fit in this fantasy world "urban division". I know it's not more urban than Pitt, BC, Miami, GT, NC State or UL. If you want to argue Cuse over Wake, UNC or Duke, go for it, but Cuse isn't substantially more "urban" than either of those other two regions.

Also, I don't think your AD is as dumb as you're making him out to be. There's no way somebody is that f*cking stupid.

So you think that inner city NYC, Boston, and Philly (i.e. where we recruit) isn't more "urban" than NC. Interesting theory.

And, in the wake of the "@fineout: Syracuse AD emailed ACC directors in Nov. lamenting current structure and said it minimized chance for teams to play in major media markets" report, you think tht it's my theory tht SU wants to play in a more urban division. That's also an interesting theory.

Hey, jabroni, there aren't any ACC schools in NYC or Philly.

(01-10-2014 09:28 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 02:33 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I don't know Syracuse and I don't give a sh*t about Syracuse. But I know it wouldn't fit in this fantasy world "urban division". I know it's not more urban than Pitt, BC, Miami, GT, NC State or UL. If you want to argue Cuse over Wake, UNC or Duke, go for it, but Cuse isn't substantially more "urban" than either of those other two regions.

Also, I don't think your AD is as dumb as you're making him out to be. There's no way somebody is that f*cking stupid.

The crux of the problem...you commenting on stuff you don't know sh*t about.

You bunny foo foos are great.

You numbnuts actually think you know the ACC and can dictate the direction of the conference. Maybe your AD *is* that f*cking stupid!

There aren't any ACC schools in Los Angeles, Assisi, Cape Town, or Juneau either. What's your point?

Rearranging the divisions to play more "urban" games has no affect on Cuse playing in NYC or Philly. You know, since there aren't any ACC teams in those cities...

Nobody ever said that it did. That's why we schedule teams like PSU (in the Meadowlands) and Villanova, and why playing BC is so important to us. My point wasn't that we want to use ACC football to market in those cities (other than BC in Boston and ND in NYC). It was that we're urban. Rearranging divisions would put us in front of more urban fans/potential students who are more likely to go to Syracuse, because contrary to your belief (which you proudly admitted was uninformed), Syracuse is a very urban school, despite its location in a small city. Playing a school located on a farm 1,000 miles south with a rural fan base isn't attracting many students. Playing a school in a city, even one far away, will. That said, I am for the divisions as they are now.

(01-09-2014 04:41 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 08:50 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 08:34 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 10:40 PM)casualwood Wrote:  Seems really simple to me...

FSU - Miami
Clemson - VT
GT - UVA
Wake - Duke
NC State - UNC
Pitt - UofL
Cuse - BC

This is the alignment I have been talking about for awhile on here.

This is great except for the fact that the folks at Georgia Tech want to play UVa, Duke, Clemson, and Carolina every year.

Link?

If you switched VaTech and UofL's crossover games, I would be 100% in with this scenario. VT and Pitt are old Big East rivalry anyway. So this could become the New Backyard Brawl, plus ESPN can get rich off the primetime ratings from the Chad Morris vs Petrino shootouts.

(01-11-2014 12:34 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 01:34 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 07:01 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 01:05 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(01-10-2014 08:16 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  So you think that inner city NYC, Boston, and Philly (i.e. where we recruit) isn't more "urban" than NC. Interesting theory.

And, in the wake of the "@fineout: Syracuse AD emailed ACC directors in Nov. lamenting current structure and said it minimized chance for teams to play in major media markets" report, you think tht it's my theory tht SU wants to play in a more urban division. That's also an interesting theory.

Hey, jabroni, there aren't any ACC schools in NYC or Philly.

(01-10-2014 09:28 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  The crux of the problem...you commenting on stuff you don't know sh*t about.

You bunny foo foos are great.

You numbnuts actually think you know the ACC and can dictate the direction of the conference. Maybe your AD *is* that f*cking stupid!

There aren't any ACC schools in Los Angeles, Assisi, Cape Town, or Juneau either. What's your point?

Rearranging the divisions to play more "urban" games has no affect on Cuse playing in NYC or Philly. You know, since there aren't any ACC teams in those cities...

Nobody ever said that it did. That's why we schedule teams like PSU (in the Meadowlands) and Villanova, and why playing BC is so important to us. My point wasn't that we want to use ACC football to market in those cities (other than BC in Boston and ND in NYC). It was that we're urban. Rearranging divisions would put us in front of more urban fans/potential students who are more likely to go to Syracuse, because contrary to your belief (which you proudly admitted was uninformed), Syracuse is a very urban school, despite its location in a small city. Playing a school located on a farm 1,000 miles south with a rural fan base isn't attracting many students. Playing a school in a city, even one far away, will. That said, I am for the divisions as they are now.

Another scenario that the ACC could consider assuming the NCAA does not change their stance on everyone in a divsion playing each other and having a championship game is to switch every year or every second year 4 teams from each division.

For example at things exist now
Atlantic
FSU
Clemson
Syracuse
NC State
Wake Forest
Louisville
BC

Coastal
Pittsburgh
VT
Virginia
North Carolina
Duke
Miami
GT

Perhaps after 2 years a rotation is set up where 2 or 4 teams in the Atlantic will move to the coastal and 2 or 4 teams in the coastal will move to the Atlantic.
The rotation could be set up so that eventually all teams will switch divisions and a true round robin rotation could be set up.
Will there be years where one division will be stronger than the others. Yes, there will be years like this, but this will be completely equitable to every team. Every team will eventually switch divisions and thus have completely different games every year.
The downside is some rivalry games will go away for a couple years, but this is the most equitable solution out there.