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RE: Maryland files a $157M counter claim vs ACC, claims ACC tried to pry B1G schools
(01-14-2014 11:53 AM)bullet Wrote:  As I read this, they didn't do anything but re-file their Maryland case in North Carolina. It says they still don't recognize North Carolina authority over the case. But I guess they don't want their claim frozen while the case against them moves forward. Discovery will also be more limited in the ACC's case. This opens the doors.

So its still the claims about illegally withholding money before they officially withdrew, restricting them from decision making, not following rules on increasing the exit fee plus this new stuff about interfering with the Big 10 after Maryland decided to leave the ACC.
Yes.

I don't claim any special understanding of this case, but just on the surface I think the ACC has the upper hand.

I hope it goes to trial. That would be far more interesting (as a spectator) than settling before trial.
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(01-14-2014 11:51 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  From an ACC viewpoint, Maryland revealing the ACC tried and failed to raid another league is damaging in of itself. No one cares if they poked around to see if someone was interested but getting rebuffed and raided in return is a blow.

From a B1G viewpoint, they could only get MAryland and Rutgers.

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RE: Maryland files a $157M counter claim vs ACC, claims ACC tried to pry B1G schools
(01-14-2014 11:04 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
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(01-14-2014 10:41 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Alex Prewitt ‏@alex_prewitt 3m
Alleges that b/c of "counsel and direction...received from ESPN," the ACC has tried to lure other schools "to extract more lucrative terms."

Sweeeeeet! ESPN is involved? This is good!

Lol. Maybe add the Big East/AAC to the case, double the damages and create a class action. Grisham's next novel? He is a football fan.

Honest question: why would having ESPN give the ACC counsel on who to grab from the B1G have any bearing on why the ACC should reduce Maryland's exit fee?

Why would ESPN counsel the ACC to try to poach the Big Ten? That's difficult to take seriously unless UMd gives us details (e.g., claiming that Executive ___ from ESPN emailed Mr. X from Wake Forest on [date] and advised him to approach [Big Ten school #1] and [Big Ten school #2] about joining the ACC, and then on [date] Mr. X and Mr. Y contacted Mr. A from Big Ten school #1 and Mr. B from Big Ten school #2 on specific dates and said, ".....").

Give us details like that, or else I'm not taking it seriously.
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(01-14-2014 10:41 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Alex Prewitt ‏@alex_prewitt 3m
Alleges that b/c of "counsel and direction...received from ESPN," the ACC has tried to lure other schools "to extract more lucrative terms."

I think with this claim, it would force ESPN to go thru discovery. Something you know they want NO part of whatsoever.
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(01-14-2014 11:53 AM)bullet Wrote:  As I read this, they didn't do anything but re-file their Maryland case in North Carolina. It says they still don't recognize North Carolina authority over the case. But I guess they don't want their claim frozen while the case against them moves forward. Discovery will also be more limited in the ACC's case. This opens the doors.

So its still the claims about illegally withholding money before they officially withdrew, restricting them from decision making, not following rules on increasing the exit fee plus this new stuff about interfering with the Big 10 after Maryland decided to leave the ACC.

This filing is pretty meaningless and solely an attempt to regain some leverage, IMO, and a pretty weak attempt. It won't mean anything for the ACC's strategy and the ACC could care less how long the suit drags on because it is holding MD's money, not vice versa. The state of North Carolina could file a claim against the Big Ten in the same vein if it wanted, but that would be equally ridiculous. It's grasping at straws hoping they find something helpful through maybe some additional discovery. It tells me they feel they are not doing well in the existing case.

There is little secret the ACC was talking to Penn State, as Barry Alvarez publicly stated that one motivation for the Big Ten's additions were to avoid losing Penn State. Conferences and schools talk all the time, which is far different than having non-disclosure agreements to hide dealings. The Big East talked to Penn State in 2000s, and it is really no different. The two schools are undoubtedly PSU and Rutgers, if not actually Maryland itself. No others make sense.
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RE: Maryland files a $157M counter claim vs ACC, claims ACC tried to pry B1G schools
(01-14-2014 11:58 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:04 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:00 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 10:57 AM)SeaBlue Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 10:41 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Alex Prewitt ‏@alex_prewitt 3m
Alleges that b/c of "counsel and direction...received from ESPN," the ACC has tried to lure other schools "to extract more lucrative terms."

Sweeeeeet! ESPN is involved? This is good!

Lol. Maybe add the Big East/AAC to the case, double the damages and create a class action. Grisham's next novel? He is a football fan.

Honest question: why would having ESPN give the ACC counsel on who to grab from the B1G have any bearing on why the ACC should reduce Maryland's exit fee?

Why would ESPN counsel the ACC to try to poach the Big Ten? That's difficult to take seriously unless UMd gives us details (e.g., claiming that Executive ___ from ESPN emailed Mr. X from Wake Forest on [date] and advised him to approach [Big Ten school #1] and [Big Ten school #2] about joining the ACC, and then on [date] Mr. X and Mr. Y contacted Mr. A from Big Ten school #1 and Mr. B from Big Ten school #2 on specific dates and said, ".....").

Give us details like that, or else I'm not taking it seriously.

Why would ESPN counsel the ACC to try to poach the Big Ten? Well, for 1 the Big Ten's TV deal is up in a few years, and Fox is a very possible suitor. So, ESPN would rather have 2 Big Ten teams fully rather than either A-sharing with Fox, or B-having to pay thru the nose to keep ESPN exclusive.
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RE: Maryland files a $157M counter claim vs ACC, claims ACC tried to pry B1G schools
(01-14-2014 11:51 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  From an ACC viewpoint, Maryland revealing the ACC tried and failed to raid another league is damaging in of itself. No one cares if they poked around to see if someone was interested but getting rebuffed and raided in return is a blow.

Arkstfan, generally I agree with about each and every one of your posts. What this indicates is that this tug of war between ACC and BiG is likely to continue in the future. A guy chasing a girl doesn't always get a yes on the first pass. The ACC has positioned itself well, prior it was asleep at the switch. Rutgers and Penn State have their alumni in the footprint in the ACC north and ACC will undoubtedly continue to play on this theme.
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(01-14-2014 11:57 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:53 AM)bullet Wrote:  As I read this, they didn't do anything but re-file their Maryland case in North Carolina. It says they still don't recognize North Carolina authority over the case. But I guess they don't want their claim frozen while the case against them moves forward. Discovery will also be more limited in the ACC's case. This opens the doors.

So its still the claims about illegally withholding money before they officially withdrew, restricting them from decision making, not following rules on increasing the exit fee plus this new stuff about interfering with the Big 10 after Maryland decided to leave the ACC.
Yes.

I don't claim any special understanding of this case, but just on the surface I think the ACC has the upper hand.

I hope it goes to trial. That would be far more interesting (as a spectator) than settling before trial.

I'm surprised it hasn't settled yet now that the GOR is in place. Only the ACC gutting the BE leading to the BE suing BC went nearly this far in court. WV/BE settled pretty quickly once the cases were filed. Very few of these don't get settled long before anyone files a lawsuit. All 4 of the Big 12 exit fees were settled without lawsuits (and I don't recall anyone seriously discussing one).

The $ are bigger, but that also means the risk of going to court is bigger and the cost of discovery is bigger.
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(01-14-2014 11:51 AM)SeaBlue Wrote:  ESPN to ACC: "Make it go away."

^^^^^ This.
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(01-14-2014 11:58 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:04 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:00 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 10:57 AM)SeaBlue Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 10:41 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Alex Prewitt ‏@alex_prewitt 3m
Alleges that b/c of "counsel and direction...received from ESPN," the ACC has tried to lure other schools "to extract more lucrative terms."

Sweeeeeet! ESPN is involved? This is good!

Lol. Maybe add the Big East/AAC to the case, double the damages and create a class action. Grisham's next novel? He is a football fan.

Honest question: why would having ESPN give the ACC counsel on who to grab from the B1G have any bearing on why the ACC should reduce Maryland's exit fee?

Why would ESPN counsel the ACC to try to poach the Big Ten? That's difficult to take seriously unless UMd gives us details (e.g., claiming that Executive ___ from ESPN emailed Mr. X from Wake Forest on [date] and advised him to approach [Big Ten school #1] and [Big Ten school #2] about joining the ACC, and then on [date] Mr. X and Mr. Y contacted Mr. A from Big Ten school #1 and Mr. B from Big Ten school #2 on specific dates and said, ".....").

Give us details like that, or else I'm not taking it seriously.

According to Prewitt's article, they basically used the quotes from BC AD Gene DeFilippo in 2011 to establish that about ESPN. This gets funnier as the day goes on.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/terr...ools-away/
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RE: Maryland files a $157M counter claim vs ACC, claims ACC tried to pry B1G schools
(01-14-2014 11:29 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:10 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  I never expected it to happen, but this probably puts the nail in the coffin for the ACC homers who expected the 50M exit fee to be paid in full.

I put the chances of a mutual walk-away with Maryland never receiving the withheld funds from this season as the most likely outcome at this point.

That's the whole point of this counterclaim. Maryland doesn't seriously believe that it's going to receive $157 million, just as the ACC never seriously believed that it was going to receive the full $50 million exit fee (or at least they should have never believed that). This is about Maryland having leverage in saying that the ACC isn't just going to have a clear path to receive all of the exit fees, so they force the ACC back to the negotiating table.

As with every single other realignment-related lawsuit, no one involved (the schools, conferences, TV networks) want anything to do with these cases going to discovery where more info gets made public. Every school that has left a conference has publicly claimed that they owe nothing. Every conference that has had a school leave has publicly claimed that they owe everything. No one has a clear moral argument on either side - fans ultimately just pick the side that benefits their favorite school the most (see the multitude of schools that are on one side of litigation one year and then the subject of the same type of litigation the next year in just this round of realignment). At the end of the day, it's in the best interests of everyone to meet in the middle and move on.

Hey Frank! I would like to say something. It might not be worth much since you labeled me this board's dumbest poster when I said ACC should invite Penn State and Rutgers. But the one thing I have learned in the last few years of realignment is to expect the unexpected and nothing should really be considered absurd.
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(01-14-2014 11:59 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:53 AM)bullet Wrote:  As I read this, they didn't do anything but re-file their Maryland case in North Carolina. It says they still don't recognize North Carolina authority over the case. But I guess they don't want their claim frozen while the case against them moves forward. Discovery will also be more limited in the ACC's case. This opens the doors.

So its still the claims about illegally withholding money before they officially withdrew, restricting them from decision making, not following rules on increasing the exit fee plus this new stuff about interfering with the Big 10 after Maryland decided to leave the ACC.

This filing is pretty meaningless and solely an attempt to regain some leverage, IMO, and a pretty weak attempt. It won't mean anything for the ACC's strategy and the ACC could care less how long the suit drags on because it is holding MD's money, not vice versa. The state of North Carolina could file a claim against the Big Ten in the same vein if it wanted, but that would be equally, well actually less, ridiculous.

There is little secret the ACC was talking to Penn State, as Barry Alvarez publicly stated that one motivation for the Big Ten's additions were to avoid losing Penn State. Conferences and schools talk all the time, which is far different than having non-disclosure agreements to hide dealings. The Big East talked to Penn State in 2000s, and it is really no different. The two schools are undoubtedly PSU and Rutgers, if not actually Maryland itself. No others make sense.

Indiana would make sense. Just saying...
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RE: Maryland files a $157M counter claim vs ACC, claims ACC tried to pry B1G schools
(01-14-2014 12:07 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:59 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:53 AM)bullet Wrote:  As I read this, they didn't do anything but re-file their Maryland case in North Carolina. It says they still don't recognize North Carolina authority over the case. But I guess they don't want their claim frozen while the case against them moves forward. Discovery will also be more limited in the ACC's case. This opens the doors.

So its still the claims about illegally withholding money before they officially withdrew, restricting them from decision making, not following rules on increasing the exit fee plus this new stuff about interfering with the Big 10 after Maryland decided to leave the ACC.

This filing is pretty meaningless and solely an attempt to regain some leverage, IMO, and a pretty weak attempt. It won't mean anything for the ACC's strategy and the ACC could care less how long the suit drags on because it is holding MD's money, not vice versa. The state of North Carolina could file a claim against the Big Ten in the same vein if it wanted, but that would be equally ridiculous. It's grasping at straws hoping they find something helpful through maybe some additional discovery. It tells me they feel they are not doing well in the existing case.

There is little secret the ACC was talking to Penn State, as Barry Alvarez publicly stated that one motivation for the Big Ten's additions were to avoid losing Penn State. Conferences and schools talk all the time, which is far different than having non-disclosure agreements to hide dealings. The Big East talked to Penn State in 2000s, and it is really no different. The two schools are undoubtedly PSU and Rutgers, if not actually Maryland itself. No others make sense.

Indiana would make sense. Just saying...

No it wouldn't.

And I believe the ACC fully expects to get at least the ~$40 million, give or take a few million, that it will have withheld from Maryland's payouts by July and is currently sitting in the ACC accounts.
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It would make my day to see ESPiN get dragged into a bottomless pit of judicial discovery.
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(01-14-2014 11:29 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:10 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  I never expected it to happen, but this probably puts the nail in the coffin for the ACC homers who expected the 50M exit fee to be paid in full.

I put the chances of a mutual walk-away with Maryland never receiving the withheld funds from this season as the most likely outcome at this point.

That's the whole point of this counterclaim. Maryland doesn't seriously believe that it's going to receive $157 million, just as the ACC never seriously believed that it was going to receive the full $50 million exit fee (or at least they should have never believed that). This is about Maryland having leverage in saying that the ACC isn't just going to have a clear path to receive all of the exit fees, so they force the ACC back to the negotiating table.

As with every single other realignment-related lawsuit, no one involved (the schools, conferences, TV networks) want anything to do with these cases going to discovery where more info gets made public. Every school that has left a conference has publicly claimed that they owe nothing. Every conference that has had a school leave has publicly claimed that they owe everything. No one has a clear moral argument on either side - fans ultimately just pick the side that benefits their favorite school the most (see the multitude of schools that are on one side of litigation one year and then the subject of the same type of litigation the next year in just this round of realignment). At the end of the day, it's in the best interests of everyone to meet in the middle and move on.

I agree with everything in your post, but keep in mind this has been going on for several months now. A certain amount of discovery must have taken place, most likely a great deal of written discovery. Maybe Maryland has found something. Depositions are next.

I agree this makes a settlement more likely, especially since ESPN's involvement was mentioned, but if Maryland has a smoking gun then the existence of the ACC is at stake. Unlikely it goes that far, I know, and Maryland would have to win, but it is a threat to the conference itself.
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(01-14-2014 12:07 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  Indiana would make sense. Just saying...
Not at all likely though.

More information (and motivation) provided here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/terr...ools-away/
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(01-14-2014 11:59 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:53 AM)bullet Wrote:  As I read this, they didn't do anything but re-file their Maryland case in North Carolina. It says they still don't recognize North Carolina authority over the case. But I guess they don't want their claim frozen while the case against them moves forward. Discovery will also be more limited in the ACC's case. This opens the doors.

So its still the claims about illegally withholding money before they officially withdrew, restricting them from decision making, not following rules on increasing the exit fee plus this new stuff about interfering with the Big 10 after Maryland decided to leave the ACC.

This filing is pretty meaningless and solely an attempt to regain some leverage, IMO, and a pretty weak attempt. It won't mean anything for the ACC's strategy and the ACC could care less how long the suit drags on because it is holding MD's money, not vice versa. The state of North Carolina could file a claim against the Big Ten in the same vein if it wanted, but that would be equally, well actually less, ridiculous.

There is little secret the ACC was talking to Penn State, as Barry Alvarez publicly stated that one motivation for the Big Ten's additions were to avoid losing Penn State. Conferences and schools talk all the time, which is far different than having non-disclosure agreements to hide dealings. The Big East talked to Penn State in 2000s, and it is really no different. The two schools are undoubtedly PSU and Rutgers, if not actually Maryland itself. No others make sense.

Who knows how serious the Big East really tried for PSU, though, in the 2000's. As I recall, it was nothing really more than Meatball Marinara saying "we'd love Penn State." There was a more serious offer, I think a formal one, in 1990/1 just as the Big East sponsored football. But yeah, this happens all of the time.

I don't doubt PSU seriously questioned their Big Ten future as the scandal unfolded. Whether removed or just an identity crisis, I never doubted the legitimacy of Alvarez's words.

It's weird, but when they mention ESPN as possibly involved, my mind shot to Johns Hopkins. Not exactly in the conference yet, but that whole synergy thing...
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(01-14-2014 12:15 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:29 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:10 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  I never expected it to happen, but this probably puts the nail in the coffin for the ACC homers who expected the 50M exit fee to be paid in full.

I put the chances of a mutual walk-away with Maryland never receiving the withheld funds from this season as the most likely outcome at this point.

That's the whole point of this counterclaim. Maryland doesn't seriously believe that it's going to receive $157 million, just as the ACC never seriously believed that it was going to receive the full $50 million exit fee (or at least they should have never believed that). This is about Maryland having leverage in saying that the ACC isn't just going to have a clear path to receive all of the exit fees, so they force the ACC back to the negotiating table.

As with every single other realignment-related lawsuit, no one involved (the schools, conferences, TV networks) want anything to do with these cases going to discovery where more info gets made public. Every school that has left a conference has publicly claimed that they owe nothing. Every conference that has had a school leave has publicly claimed that they owe everything. No one has a clear moral argument on either side - fans ultimately just pick the side that benefits their favorite school the most (see the multitude of schools that are on one side of litigation one year and then the subject of the same type of litigation the next year in just this round of realignment). At the end of the day, it's in the best interests of everyone to meet in the middle and move on.

I agree with everything in your post, but keep in mind this has been going on for several months now. A certain amount of discovery must have taken place, most likely a great deal of written discovery. Maybe Maryland has found something. Depositions are next.

I agree this makes a settlement more likely, especially since ESPN's involvement was mentioned, but if Maryland has a smoking gun then the existence of the ACC is at stake. Unlikely it goes that far, I know, and Maryland would have to win, but it is a threat to the conference itself.

how is that a threat to the conference? Ridiculous.
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(01-14-2014 12:22 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  a threat to the conference? Ridiculous.
If the current exit terms are voided...
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(01-14-2014 12:20 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:59 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  
(01-14-2014 11:53 AM)bullet Wrote:  As I read this, they didn't do anything but re-file their Maryland case in North Carolina. It says they still don't recognize North Carolina authority over the case. But I guess they don't want their claim frozen while the case against them moves forward. Discovery will also be more limited in the ACC's case. This opens the doors.

So its still the claims about illegally withholding money before they officially withdrew, restricting them from decision making, not following rules on increasing the exit fee plus this new stuff about interfering with the Big 10 after Maryland decided to leave the ACC.

This filing is pretty meaningless and solely an attempt to regain some leverage, IMO, and a pretty weak attempt. It won't mean anything for the ACC's strategy and the ACC could care less how long the suit drags on because it is holding MD's money, not vice versa. The state of North Carolina could file a claim against the Big Ten in the same vein if it wanted, but that would be equally, well actually less, ridiculous.

There is little secret the ACC was talking to Penn State, as Barry Alvarez publicly stated that one motivation for the Big Ten's additions were to avoid losing Penn State. Conferences and schools talk all the time, which is far different than having non-disclosure agreements to hide dealings. The Big East talked to Penn State in 2000s, and it is really no different. The two schools are undoubtedly PSU and Rutgers, if not actually Maryland itself. No others make sense.

Who knows how serious the Big East really tried for PSU, though, in the 2000's. As I recall, it was nothing really more than Meatball Marinara saying "we'd love Penn State." There was a more serious offer, I think a formal one, in 1990/1 just as the Big East sponsored football. But yeah, this happens all of the time.

I don't doubt PSU seriously questioned their Big Ten future as the scandal unfolded. Whether removed or just an identity crisis, I never doubted the legitimacy of Alvarez's words.

It's weird, but when they mention ESPN as possibly involved, my mind shot to Johns Hopkins. Not exactly in the conference yet, but that whole synergy thing...

The BE was very serious. In July 2003, Syracuse president Buzz Shaw was assigned the task of approaching Penn State by the BE CEOs board. He had no chance of succeeding in that task, but they were serious because it was an attempt to save the conference.

JHU has nothing to do with this. JHU lax is a complete non-factor. JHU's AD even publicly stated that the ACC office didn't even return their calls when they were exploring conference memberships.

The ESPN involvement is more conspiratorial than anything else. I'm sure all TV partners were consulted prior to expansion and provided numbers that illuminated the best targets from a perspective of media gain, but there is nothing collusive in itself about that. Otherwise, you have to buy DeFilippo's mouth at face value, which one never should do if you've followed his statements through the years. Collusion is going to be very hard to prove here. All they have are Gene's off-the-cuff statements and they don't apply to the period after which Maryland announced they were leaving.

Think about it, MD leaves and then the ACC explores its options for a replacement (and they also considered no replacement). That includes contacting, and being contacted by, all the usual suspects: PSU, RU, UConn, Cincinnati, Louisville... The state of MD is just throwing **** against the wall here to see if they can dislodge the ACC from its entrenched position because the ACC is just happy as a clam to let it drag out indefinitely because they are holding the $.
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