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No clear-cut UC QB yet
Per C. Trent Rosecrans Bearcat Blog:

no qb decision yet

hey folks, just got back from Higher Ground...

Mark Dantonio said there's no decision on the starting quarterback yet, Grutza and Davila are tied for the top spot and he still wants to see what Wess can do. There's another scrimmage Tuesday morning, which could be huge.

Although he said ideally they'd have named a starter by now, it hasn't happened yet. Although Dantonio said there's no reall timetable, I'd expect them to name -- or at least have a very, very strong opinion -- a starting QB by the end of Thursday's practice when the Bearcats break camp. They'll then have Friday and Saturday off, before starting their regular game week schedule on Sunday.
 
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Here's how the QB situation will unfold.

Grutza is - errrr! will be named - the starter.

He will have a good game against EKU. Dantonio will be happy to prove the naysayers wrong.

Unfortunately for Grutza he will struggle against PITT but play most of the game. Davilla will get in and perform well against Pitt's 2nd team.

Grutza will start against OSU but will be yanked. Davilla and Wess both get time but neither do well, starting your classic QB controversy.

Somebody gets the start against VA TECH. Yet all 3 QBs do poorly. At that point, Dantonio says he has to look to the future and stick with his boy, the sophomre Grutza, the rest of the year.
 
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Radroby Wrote:Here's how the QB situation will unfold.

Grutza is - errrr! will be named - the starter.

He will have a good game against EKU. Dantonio will be happy to prove the naysayers wrong.

Unfortunately for Grutza he will struggle against PITT but play most of the game. Davilla will get in and perform well against Pitt's 2nd team.

Grutza will start against OSU but will be yanked. Davilla and Wess both get time but neither do well, starting your classic QB controversy.

Somebody gets the start against VA TECH. Yet all 3 QBs do poorly. At that point, Dantonio says he has to look to the future and stick with his boy, the sophomre Grutza, the rest of the year.

Isn't that basically the storyline for the move "The 2005 UC Bearcats Football Season"? except with different characters and foes? ohh yeah it is hence the deja vu..
 
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Ahhhorsepoo Wrote:
Radroby Wrote:Here's how the QB situation will unfold.

Grutza is - errrr! will be named - the starter.

He will have a good game against EKU. Dantonio will be happy to prove the naysayers wrong.

Unfortunately for Grutza he will struggle against PITT but play most of the game. Davilla will get in and perform well against Pitt's 2nd team.

Grutza will start against OSU but will be yanked. Davilla and Wess both get time but neither do well, starting your classic QB controversy.

Somebody gets the start against VA TECH. Yet all 3 QBs do poorly. At that point, Dantonio says he has to look to the future and stick with his boy, the sophomre Grutza, the rest of the year.

Isn't that basically the storyline for the move "The 2005 UC Bearcats Football Season"? except with different characters and foes? ohh yeah it is hence the deja vu..

I can also tell you yesterday's winning lottery numbers. ;-)

Why Dantonio hasn't named Grutza the starting QB is beyond me. He must be having a poor camp.
 
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With the general mood of the season ticket holders I speak with, if Grutza starts and we see the same crap from him we saw last year, the folks in the bleachers are going to get on him big time and in relatively short order. Won't take long for the boo-birds to start singing.
 
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Rath Wrote:With the general mood of the season ticket holders I speak with, if Grutza starts and we see the same crap from him we saw last year, the folks in the bleachers are going to get on him big time and in relatively short order. Won't take long for the boo-birds to start singing.

That's the only reason I see, but I didn't think there was that much interest in UC football. lmfao
 
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I think Rad lays out a pretty good scenario. IMO there has been no real competition at the QB position since coach has given almost all the snaps/reps with the 1st team to Grutza.

Here's a good read from UConn about their QB derby - would love to hear Coach D say the same about his starter. http://www.courant.com/sports/college/fo...?track=rss
 
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I think Coach has been reading Crew's posts ;-)

http://ucbearcats.cstv.com/sports/m-foot...06aad.html

Quote:Unable to declare a starter in the hotly contested quarterback race, Dantonio is looking forward to Tuesday's scrimmage.

"Tomorrow is another major scrimmage as far as we are concerned," he said. "We try to put a timetable on things and establish who is going, but at the same time we don't want to omit somebody if they are doing a good job. Dustin Grutza is the returning starter and Nick Davila is having a good camp. All of the quarterbacks can do good things.

"If you watched the first half of today's scrimmage, (Nick) Davila looked very sharp. Dustin (Grutza) was good, too. Nick deserves consideration to play with the first unit. I want to see what he can do tomorrow (Tuesday)."
 
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BJ, thanks for bringing that to my attention. ;-) I hope Nick does well BUT Grutza gets all spring/summer to work with the 1st unit and Nick gets one scrimmage..?! I guarentee timing will be off. To me it's a token gesture similar to what was done vs. Pitt last year.

If there was truly a competition at QB they (Dustin/Nick) would have split snaps with the 1st/2nd teams.

Coach said on Lance's show "everyone" was talking to him about the QB situation and he was going to give Nick a shot...
 
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You make an excellent point Crew. I didn't think about the "timing" thing.

Here I was all excited 03-weeping
 
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ucbearcats.com adds a little - a pretty good practice report from there:

WEST HARRISON, Ind. - After spending time over the weekend visiting with family and enjoying Paramount's Kings Island, the University of Cincinnati football team completed its first two-a-day practice of the week on Monday. Under sunny skies at Higher Ground Conference Center, Cincinnati worked for two hours in the morning session and followed by a two-hour practice in shells in the evening.

"We are staying healthy and that is the most important thing," said Head Coach Mark Dantonio. "We are trying to put this team into as many game situations as we can. We ran our first defense for 20 straight plays today, simulating a long drive and having to go back on the field after a quick turnover." (This is a good idea as it seems to happen too often)
Unable to declare a starter in the hotly contested quarterback race, Dantonio is looking forward to Tuesday's scrimmage.

"Tomorrow is another major scrimmage as far as we are concerned," he said. "We try to put a timetable on things and establish who is going, but at the same time we don't want to omit somebody if they are doing a good job. Dustin Grutza is the returning starter and Nick Davila is having a good camp. All of the quarterbacks can do good things.

"If you watched the first half of today's scrimmage, (Nick) Davila looked very sharp. Dustin (Grutza) was good, too. Nick deserves consideration to play with the first unit. I want to see what he can do tomorrow (Tuesday)."
Tuesday morning's scrimmage is scheduled to include special teams as preparations for the Sept. 2 home opener vs. Eastern Kentucky continue. The final opportunity to catch the Bearcats before the season is Sunday, August 27 at Meet the Team Night.

http://ucbearcats.cstv.com/sports/m-foot...06aad.html
 
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Dantonio's comments with Lance this afternoon sounded to me like Davilla has the edge in this thing. He used the word "excellent" there, as well, to describe Davilla's fall camp.

The point they seemed to get hung up on last year was that they felt Grutza was the better decision-maker, and better understood our offense. Obviously, Davilla's made some progress there. You also have to consider we have a different QB coach this year, so that may also be improving Davilla's chances.

As to the point about running with the first unit vs. the second unit, I don't think it is as big a separation as you may be indicating. Our receiving corps is nothing if not deep, so I'm sure Davilla has gotten work with all of the different guys this fall. The one area he may find a significant difference with -- and it would be in his favor -- is working behind the first team o-line vs. the second team bunch. Not much depth there.
 
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it is a concern that with the opening game so close, the prime QB has not been settled on.

college you can do that more easily than pro - but still, it does not bode well.

I got my tix to the Va Tech game - anyone got an extra bulletproof vest they are not using?

OK Maurice, put your cuffed hands down, I saw ya.

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
 
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Radroby Wrote:
Ahhhorsepoo Wrote:
Radroby Wrote:Here's how the QB situation will unfold.

Grutza is - errrr! will be named - the starter.

He will have a good game against EKU. Dantonio will be happy to prove the naysayers wrong.

Unfortunately for Grutza he will struggle against PITT but play most of the game. Davilla will get in and perform well against Pitt's 2nd team.

Grutza will start against OSU but will be yanked. Davilla and Wess both get time but neither do well, starting your classic QB controversy.

Somebody gets the start against VA TECH. Yet all 3 QBs do poorly. At that point, Dantonio says he has to look to the future and stick with his boy, the sophomre Grutza, the rest of the year.

Isn't that basically the storyline for the move "The 2005 UC Bearcats Football Season"? except with different characters and foes? ohh yeah it is hence the deja vu..

I can also tell you yesterday's winning lottery numbers. ;-)

Why Dantonio hasn't named Grutza the starting QB is beyond me. He must be having a poor camp.

yeah, and his poor 2005 season didn't hurt either.
 
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New article by C. Trent:

Davila makes bid for UC starting job
Backup pushing incumbent Grutza

By C. Trent Rosecrans
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WEST HARRISON, Ind. - It's less than two weeks before the University of Cincinnati begins its football season and coach Mark Dantonio still hasn't decided who his starting quarterback will be on Sept. 2 against Eastern Kentucky.

"We're going to name a starter when I make that decision," Dantonio said following Monday's practice at Higher Ground Conference and Retreat Center.

Making that decision has been made tougher by the recent play of the top two candidates, incumbent Dustin Grutza and senior Nick Davila.

"Those are the two guys right now," Dantonio said. "All of the quarterbacks can do good things.(Sophomore) David Wess did not scrimmage last week. It comes down to game management and he's behind right now. The other two are pretty even. We try to put a timetable on things and establish who is going, but at the same time we don't want to omit somebody if they are doing a good job."

Last season Davila, a junior college transfer, played in five games and did well in mop-up duty, leading the Bearcats to touchdowns in his first two drives as a Bearcat. But in his lone opportunity to play in the first half of a game, Davila struggled, completing just 4 of 13 passes for 19 yards and an interception playing the entire second quarter in UC's 38-20 loss at Pittsburgh.

For the season, Davila completed more than 57 percent of his passes and had four touchdowns and two interceptions. He also had the best statistics in the spring game and has continued to improve during UC's preseason camp.

Perhaps Davila's biggest test was scheduled to come this morning, when the Bearcats were to scrimmage at Higher Ground.

"Nick deserves consideration to play with the first unit," Dantonio said following Monday's first practice. I want to see what he can do (today)."

If it's the biggest day of camp so far for the left-hander, he's not showing it.

"I'm a competitor and I want to play, but at the same time it's about the team," Davila said. "Coaches are going to make the right decision. You have to have respect for your coaches' decisions and accept other people's opinions. I'm not going to point fingers - that's not the characteristic of a quarterback. You have to be team first."

That said, Davila would still rather be under center than on the sideline come the first weekend of September.

He's in position to do that because of his experience of being in the system for more than a full year now. Talent was never really a question. Davila was a two-time junior college All-American at Chaffey Junior College in California. But the jump from junior college to Division I football is difficult, especially in the game's most difficult and important position.

"It's like any position in football, if you know what you're doing it's easy. If you don't know what you're doing, you look like a totally different athlete," Davila said. "I know everyone's position. I know the DBs. I know this offense like the back of my hand now.

"It's just knowing all the little details. It's not all about throwing the ball and making the right reads. It's putting guys in position if they don't know what they're doing; it's watching the play clock, watching the defense. There's so many details that go into playing quarterback."

And even if Davila isn't the starter when Dantonio finally makes his decision, he knows anything can happen in the course of 12 games.

"You have to prepare and persevere," Davila said. "Week-to-week, you have to be ready to go in under the fire. That's the position - only one guy can play at a time. It's not like running back or receiver. It's the position I chose."

Now he just hopes the position chooses him.
 
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