Since these sports boards are, to a large degree, I am guessing Emanuel Dayries from New Orleans or Eddie Randal from Chicago. Rivals, on the open forums, gives little hint of who the third tackle might be but the Scout board lists Dayries and Randal as holding offers from Tulsa.

On paper and based on competing offers, this Tulsa class is a very fine and solid class and on par with the previous fine classes of previous years. I was concerned recruiting would fall off the charts given the dismal 2013 season but that does not appear to have happened.

DEFENSIVE TACKLE PROSPECTS FROM SCOUT BOARD

(02-01-2014 05:43 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Since these sports boards are, to a large degree, I am guessing Emanuel Dayries from New Orleans or Eddie Randal from Chicago. Rivals, on the open forums, gives little hint of who the third tackle might be but the Scout board lists Dayries and Randal as holding offers from Tulsa.

On paper and based on competing offers, this Tulsa class is a very fine and solid class and on par with the previous fine classes of previous years. I was concerned recruiting would fall off the charts given the dismal 2013 season but that does not appear to have happened.

DEFENSIVE TACKLE PROSPECTS FROM SCOUT BOARD

Thanks for posting that. Keep us informed. Much appreciated.

(02-01-2014 06:56 PM)rabidTU2 Wrote:  

(02-01-2014 05:43 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Since these sports boards are, to a large degree, I am guessing Emanuel Dayries from New Orleans or Eddie Randal from Chicago. Rivals, on the open forums, gives little hint of who the third tackle might be but the Scout board lists Dayries and Randal as holding offers from Tulsa.

On paper and based on competing offers, this Tulsa class is a very fine and solid class and on par with the previous fine classes of previous years. I was concerned recruiting would fall off the charts given the dismal 2013 season but that does not appear to have happened.

DEFENSIVE TACKLE PROSPECTS FROM SCOUT BOARD

Thanks for posting that. Keep us informed. Much appreciated.

Willie Wright

Thanks for all the input. With the Super Bowl and all, I hadn't been aware of these developements. It looks like BB and staff aren't taking no for an answer. Thanks again.

According to 247 Sports the Tulsa 2014 football recruiting class is doing better with recent commits. Showing second in C-USA and 7th in the AAC. now in front of Memphis and Temple. Connecticut was last but has come on in the final days to take 4th in the AAC.

247 Sports 2014 CFB recruiting class rankings

Thanks.....it's good to know we're not dead last. The AAC will help a little but it will probably take a year or two. It looks like the AAC gets all the 3 star talent(some would be 4 star if they chose OU or Penn St), which makes me believe a lot of the CUSA teams in the future will be getting more and more 2 star or no star recruits.

(02-03-2014 05:52 PM)jfisher Wrote:  Thanks.....it's good to know we're not dead last. The AAC will help a little but it will probably take a year or two. It looks like the AAC gets all the 3 star talent(some would be 4 star if they chose OU or Penn St), which makes me believe a lot of the CUSA teams in the future will be getting more and more 2 star or no star recruits.

A while back I asked Chris Harmon about what was being done (changed) with the rivals rating system and to his credit he explained that they had reconfigured the rating system and "hardened" it. Ever since then, if you were a non AQ program it has been very difficult to get the 3 and 4 star ratings up to where they were before for teams like ours. As I see it, the AQ programs ratings haven't changed much - they still get the 4 and 5 star recruits, thus engendering the idea that their recruits are far and away better than ours mainly because those recruits are "theirs", I assume. Some of that is correct, but obviously some isn't, attested by the Boise Sts and UCF's of the world who are obviously underrated.

This just comes off as another BCS AQ scheme to divide DI even further. But what the ultimate result is, is that now we can't compare last years TU class to this one accurately. A case in point was LBer Patera Wilson. At one point he was a 4 star recruit wanted by just about every program in the country - Alabama, Florida, Florida St, Ohio St, USC etc. But for whatever reason, he fell off the board and many of those programs backed off - so rivals dropped him to a three star. That in and of itself is reason to question the process. Either he is and was a four star or he's not.

IMO

The 247 Sports rating list is the one a huge number of sites are using when talking about recruiting class rankings. Rivals and Scout are being used less and less. Which tells me people don't feel that those sites rankings are as accurate as at one time. If they are accurate at all. Get the feeling everyone is tired of Scout and Rivals playing to the schools with the largest fan bases. 247 Sports does seem unbiased mostly.

It is really hard to rate players on high school teams that aren't that good...teams that are 5-4 or 4-5, where the QB has a terrible Oline in front of him....is the QB very good......or the OLineman that doesn't have a very good QB. There are a lot of good, really good players that don't play on teams with 9-0 records that go unrecognized every year......of course a number of them end up walking on at some program. It would obviously be impossible to keep up with all the HS teams but there are some super players on really bad teams that get lost in the ratings games every year.

(02-04-2014 12:05 PM)jfisher Wrote:  It is really hard to rate players on high school teams that aren't that good...teams that are 5-4 or 4-5, where the QB has a terrible Oline in front of him....is the QB very good......or the OLineman that doesn't have a very good QB. There are a lot of good, really good players that don't play on teams with 9-0 records that go unrecognized every year......of course a number of them end up walking on at some program. It would obviously be impossible to keep up with all the HS teams but there are some super players on really bad teams that get lost in the ratings games every year.

You hit on something with that. I think BB believes and rightly so that the closer you live and work to a kid, know his parents/homelife, etc. the easier it is to evaluate the entire student/athlete. This is why some of the chances he took on local kids have paid off.

But of course, the one equation that has to be a part of the evaluation is ability. It is actually easier to evaluate the character of a kid than project his ability to play CFB.

(02-03-2014 02:22 PM)TulsaEye Wrote:  According to 247 Sports the Tulsa 2014 football recruiting class is doing better with recent commits. Showing second in C-USA and 7th in the AAC. now in front of Memphis and Temple. Connecticut was last but has come on in the final days to take 4th in the AAC.

247 Sports 2014 CFB recruiting class rankings

What? You are looking at last years...

http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Footbal...erence=AAC

The last time I saw this, Tulsa was 7th but Temple has moved up to 2nd with recent commitments. Tulsa is going to have a better class than I originally thought with some recent commitments but Temple has really done well.......how are you doing that???? Are you offering more money than us????

lol we have no money. Our former WR coach who left for his alma mater, Penn State, had a lot to do with it. He was the former HC at Gateway High School near Pittsburgh, and 3 of our commits, including our top commit played for him. Other than that, we have a young HC who relates to recruits very well, and is very good at spotting potential. Our top DL recruit was a little undersized, but finished 2nd in the state of NJ in sacks behind a Michigan State commit. He ended up bulking up a bit and Vandy and Rutgers both offered him late, but he stayed true to his word. We also recruited Florida very hard this year.

Sorry about that I started out looking at the 2014 247sports chart but I looked at some others before I posted and the 2013 must have snuck in there because I forgot to check the year. I saw earlier where Connecticut was last, then I saw it up high in ranking. Thought it was strange they could have jumped so many places. My bad. The 2014 definitely showing the real stuff.

I think we did OK even though we weren't ranked that high.....we got some people we needed especially on defense!!!

I'd say we did about as well as we could have hoped considering the circumstances. I tried to watch each recruits highlights on the official TU site and you can certainly tell some of them were a lot better than their general evaluation.

I think some of the coaches are better recruiters/evaluators than others. I'd put Denver, Loepp, Adam and Thib as pretty good in the dept. I think we'll get a better set of WR recruits under Bitson. I doubt if Josh B will do much recruiting until he learns how.