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RE: Liberty to Sun Belt / JMU to MAC
There is currently a thread discussing JMU brother/sister schools.
http://csnbbs.com/thread-719393.html

This has been a prevailing motif for years on the forums. I am not sure why it is so important for those guys to define "peer" schools, but they are really not doing their research well except for App.
I am not sure what their criteria are, but it seems to me that App State was almost identical to JMU in every way prior to it's move up to FCS*
-similar size
-regional master's university
-very similar academics, undergraduate admission standards, and offerings.
-rural setting
-almost identical endowment
-similar athletic profile*
I really wonder why some JMU posters have periodically looked down their collective noses at Appalachian State. Prior to the FBS move they were virtually identical twins.

For some reason JMU (the athletic board posters) wants to be a peer with Miami (Oh).
Beyond being in a rural setting and of similar size, the comparison ends.
Miami at Oxford is a comprehensive National research university with higher admissions standards, especially in math.
Miami's endowment is 7 times that of JMU
It is even technically in the large Cincy DMA
It plays football in FBS.

Binghamton has been mentioned.
It is a National University designated as an advanced research institution that is extremely selective, utilizing a holistic approach to admissions. It was designated as Public Ivy by Richard Moll's book
It has a larger endowment than JMU
It doesn't play football
I see few similarities other than size and rural setting.

Some JMU posters continue to deride the SBC on it's academic profile, despite being shown empirical data that all three of the SBC, CUSA and the MAC G5s are similar in academic profiles, sans Rice.

The delusions continue. 03-nutkick
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RE: Liberty to Sun Belt / JMU to MAC
I just had a chuckle. A JMU poster stated that:

Quote:My opinion of what JMU should do when it comes to changing conferences:

Join the Atlantic 10 Conference, when Saint Louis leaves, for all sports except football, which should remain in the CAA.

Like the A10 would offer that train wreck of a JMU MBB program a spot.
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RE: Liberty to Sun Belt / JMU to MAC
jmu..... Join the Atlantic 10 Conference 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

That is all.
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This could only come from a delusional insane asylum.... JMU Dukes 2015 National Champions!!!

http://csnbbs.com/thread-722954.html
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RE: Liberty to Sun Belt / JMU to MAC
I am not going to throw things in their face anymore on the Dukes board. However, due the Cox Bill and the over $2 million JMU athletics will immediately lose, there may be consequences so dire that Madison's division classification could be in jeopardy.
I actually feel sorry for them.

However, there are two threads going right now that are as delusional as ever.

First, a declaration that JMU is no longer classified as a Carnegie masters level institution, http://csnbbs.com/thread-725182.html; from some super secret source that cannot be revealed.
However, JMU still only offers eight doctorates, as of 2014/2015 (I think you need at least ten).
http://www.jmu.edu/gradcatalog/14/doctoral-programs/
I believe that the last time Carnegie changed it's definitions criteria was 2006? (not sure)
Carnegie itself lists JMU as a Masters Level Institution
http://carnegieclassifications.iu.edu/lo...=index.php

Additionally, http://www.usnews.com/education/best-col...efinitions


Second, there is some discussion as to why JMU has slipped from the top ranking of Regional Universities . The prevailing "excuse" is low alumni giving.
http://csnbbs.com/thread-725182-page-2.html
Really?!!? 01-wingedeagle

I guess that the following have nothing to do with it:
1.)JMU has dropped from being rated as "More Selective", at less than 50%, admissions, to "Selective", at 64% in less than ten years
2.) Admissions test scores have dropped to below those of VT, and in fact rank JMU above ONLY Towson in the entire CAA
Test Scores -- 25th / 75th Percentile
SAT Critical Reading: 520 / 620
SAT Math: 530 / 630

And the delusions continue....03-lmfao
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