I realize it's a slow process, but I am so glad the mid-majors are narrowing the divide between them and the so-called high-majors of P5 schools. It has happened in some of the non-conference football games and in basketball, the notoriety mostly comes during the Big Dance.

Teams like an Ohio State, get their comeuppance during the Dance and make teams like Dayton and their fans feel so good and worthy, mostly because the Ohio States think they're too good to play and think they are above in-state teams like the Flyers. It still may take some years before the divide is almost non-existent, which is another reason I believe the P5 wants to have control and near autonomy, thus controlling the money. If everything is even or nearly even, what's the point in separating?

Good for Dayton, South Dakota State, Harvard and St. Louis. There will be more. Yeah, I'm a "mid-major" guy!

(03-21-2014 12:26 AM)Chuck A Wrote:  I realize it's a slow process, but I am so glad the mid-majors are narrowing the divide between them and the so-called high-majors of P5 schools. It has happened in some of the non-conference football games and in basketball, the notoriety mostly comes during the Big Dance.

Teams like an Ohio State, get their comeuppance during the Dance and make teams like Dayton and their fans feel so good and worthy, mostly because the Ohio States think they're too good to play and think they are above in-state teams like the Flyers. It still may take some years before the divide is almost non-existent, which is another reason I believe the P5 wants to have control and near autonomy, thus controlling the money. If everything is even or nearly even, what's the point in separating?

Good for Dayton, South Dakota State, Harvard and St. Louis. There will be more. Yeah, I'm a "mid-major" guy!

Not a good day for those "O" schools, like Oklahoma, and THE Ohio State University.

While we're glad for the love, a conference that puts 6/13 teams in the NCAA tournament isn't mid-major...but major. At least this year. 2-1 so far. Hopefully we keep it up tomorrow.

(03-21-2014 12:36 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 12:26 AM)Chuck A Wrote:  I realize it's a slow process, but I am so glad the mid-majors are narrowing the divide between them and the so-called high-majors of P5 schools. It has happened in some of the non-conference football games and in basketball, the notoriety mostly comes during the Big Dance.

Teams like an Ohio State, get their comeuppance during the Dance and make teams like Dayton and their fans feel so good and worthy, mostly because the Ohio States think they're too good to play and think they are above in-state teams like the Flyers. It still may take some years before the divide is almost non-existent, which is another reason I believe the P5 wants to have control and near autonomy, thus controlling the money. If everything is even or nearly even, what's the point in separating?

Good for Dayton, South Dakota State, Harvard and St. Louis. There will be more. Yeah, I'm a "mid-major" guy!

Not a good day for those "O" schools, like Oklahoma, and THE Ohio State University.

It was even worse for the "B" schools

Buckeyes- lost
Buffaloes- lost
Bearcats- lost
Broncos- lost
BYU- lost
Blue Hens- lost

The Badgers were the only B to survive.

(03-21-2014 01:36 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 12:36 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 12:26 AM)Chuck A Wrote:  I realize it's a slow process, but I am so glad the mid-majors are narrowing the divide between them and the so-called high-majors of P5 schools. It has happened in some of the non-conference football games and in basketball, the notoriety mostly comes during the Big Dance.

Teams like an Ohio State, get their comeuppance during the Dance and make teams like Dayton and their fans feel so good and worthy, mostly because the Ohio States think they're too good to play and think they are above in-state teams like the Flyers. It still may take some years before the divide is almost non-existent, which is another reason I believe the P5 wants to have control and near autonomy, thus controlling the money. If everything is even or nearly even, what's the point in separating?

Good for Dayton, South Dakota State, Harvard and St. Louis. There will be more. Yeah, I'm a "mid-major" guy!

Not a good day for those "O" schools, like Oklahoma, and THE Ohio State University.

It was even worse for the "B" schools

Buckeyes- lost
Buffaloes- lost
Bearcats- lost
Broncos- lost
BYU- lost
Blue Hens- lost

The Badgers were the only B to survive.

yeah and most of them were Blown out

(03-21-2014 01:36 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 12:36 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 12:26 AM)Chuck A Wrote:  I realize it's a slow process, but I am so glad the mid-majors are narrowing the divide between them and the so-called high-majors of P5 schools. It has happened in some of the non-conference football games and in basketball, the notoriety mostly comes during the Big Dance.

Teams like an Ohio State, get their comeuppance during the Dance and make teams like Dayton and their fans feel so good and worthy, mostly because the Ohio States think they're too good to play and think they are above in-state teams like the Flyers. It still may take some years before the divide is almost non-existent, which is another reason I believe the P5 wants to have control and near autonomy, thus controlling the money. If everything is even or nearly even, what's the point in separating?

Good for Dayton, South Dakota State, Harvard and St. Louis. There will be more. Yeah, I'm a "mid-major" guy!

Not a good day for those "O" schools, like Oklahoma, and THE Ohio State University.

It was even worse for the "B" schools

Buckeyes- lost
Buffaloes- lost
Bearcats- lost
Broncos- lost
BYU- lost
Blue Hens- lost

The Badgers were the only B to survive.

Pretty good day for the Bison of the North Dakota State!

(03-21-2014 12:26 AM)Chuck A Wrote:  I realize it's a slow process, but I am so glad the mid-majors are narrowing the divide between them and the so-called high-majors of P5 schools. It has happened in some of the non-conference football games and in basketball, the notoriety mostly comes during the Big Dance.

Teams like an Ohio State, get their comeuppance during the Dance and make teams like Dayton and their fans feel so good and worthy, mostly because the Ohio States think they're too good to play and think they are above in-state teams like the Flyers. It still may take some years before the divide is almost non-existent, which is another reason I believe the P5 wants to have control and near autonomy, thus controlling the money. If everything is even or nearly even, what's the point in separating?

Good for Dayton, South Dakota State, Harvard and [b]St. Louis[/b]. There will be more. Yeah, I'm a "mid-major" guy!

The Billikins were the higher seed, they didn't really 'knock of a big boy' as they were expected to win. We'll see if they can overcome the huge 1-seed placement disparity in their next match-up...

(03-21-2014 03:05 AM)FargoBison Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 01:36 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 12:36 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 12:26 AM)Chuck A Wrote:  I realize it's a slow process, but I am so glad the mid-majors are narrowing the divide between them and the so-called high-majors of P5 schools. It has happened in some of the non-conference football games and in basketball, the notoriety mostly comes during the Big Dance.

Teams like an Ohio State, get their comeuppance during the Dance and make teams like Dayton and their fans feel so good and worthy, mostly because the Ohio States think they're too good to play and think they are above in-state teams like the Flyers. It still may take some years before the divide is almost non-existent, which is another reason I believe the P5 wants to have control and near autonomy, thus controlling the money. If everything is even or nearly even, what's the point in separating?

Good for Dayton, South Dakota State, Harvard and St. Louis. There will be more. Yeah, I'm a "mid-major" guy!

Not a good day for those "O" schools, like Oklahoma, and THE Ohio State University.

It was even worse for the "B" schools

Buckeyes- lost
Buffaloes- lost
Bearcats- lost
Broncos- lost
BYU- lost
Blue Hens- lost

The Badgers were the only B to survive.

Pretty good day for the Bison of the North Dakota State!

Why do they call you the Bizon, I swear I never heard of that before the 2013 fcs playoffs. One of the announcers was making fun saying something like, you'd match up well against Zan Diego St. I'm 14-2 I picked all the 12 seeds. Damn NC St. blowing a 16 pt lead and Dayton winning by 1.

Like Crimsonelf said St. Louis is hardly Mid-Major. A10 is considered a very good Basketball league by any standard.

in todays college bball world everyone has players, especially the mid-majors they usually have veteran guys who are experience. The 13 scholarship rule change the game...

(03-21-2014 05:04 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Like Crimsonelf said St. Louis is hardly Mid-Major. A10 is considered a very good Basketball league by any standard.

Hey, I feel you on that. I personally hate the term. The A-10 is the best non-BCS or non-P5 league going, but to the media and the P5, everybody else is mid-major. Obviously, it's all tied to Football. It's like, if you're not the main state school with a huge football program/stadium, you're relegated to sub-par status. Hmmm...sounds like "institutional classism"!

If each sport was separated as it pertained to their particular season (Football/Basketball) and given merit based on, not what a team's football program is, but strictly their basketball history, prowess, attendance, etc., I think we'd at least get rid of the term in college hoops. Why would you even have a term like "Bowl Championship Series" team when talking about basketball programs during the hoops season? Now you have the "Power 5". These terms are nowhere basketball related. Football bore these monikers and when it comes to college basketball, they should not be used. Once Football season kicks in, then you can go back to "labeling", separating and making sure that you're being prejudiced with the money!

Yeah, I realize the gridiron basically runs college sports and my concept is pretty utopian, but come on!

If you liked these mid majors so much, you probably should get their names right...

(03-21-2014 12:36 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 12:26 AM)Chuck A Wrote:  I realize it's a slow process, but I am so glad the mid-majors are narrowing the divide between them and the so-called high-majors of P5 schools. It has happened in some of the non-conference football games and in basketball, the notoriety mostly comes during the Big Dance.

Teams like an Ohio State, get their comeuppance during the Dance and make teams like Dayton and their fans feel so good and worthy, mostly because the Ohio States think they're too good to play and think they are above in-state teams like the Flyers. It still may take some years before the divide is almost non-existent, which is another reason I believe the P5 wants to have control and near autonomy, thus controlling the money. If everything is even or nearly even, what's the point in separating?

Good for Dayton, South Dakota State, Harvard and St. Louis. There will be more. Yeah, I'm a "mid-major" guy!

Not a good day for those "O" schools, like Oklahoma, and THE Ohio State University.

Did you see the Dayton Daily News headline about "THE University of Dayton"?

(03-21-2014 08:06 AM)Chuck A Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 05:04 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Like Crimsonelf said St. Louis is hardly Mid-Major. A10 is considered a very good Basketball league by any standard.

Hey, I feel you on that. I personally hate the term. The A-10 is the best non-BCS or non-P5 league going, but to the media and the P5, everybody else is mid-major. Obviously, it's all tied to Football. It's like, if you're not the main state school with a huge football program/stadium, you're relegated to sub-par status. Hmmm...sounds like "institutional classism"!

If each sport was separated as it pertained to their particular season (Football/Basketball) and given merit based on, not what a team's football program is, but strictly their basketball history, prowess, attendance, etc., I think we'd at least get rid of the term in college hoops. Why would you even have a term like "Bowl Championship Series" team when talking about basketball programs during the hoops season? Now you have the "Power 5". These terms are nowhere basketball related. Football bore these monikers and when it comes to college basketball, they should not be used. Once Football season kicks in, then you can go back to "labeling", separating and making sure that you're being prejudiced with the money!

Yeah, I realize the gridiron basically runs college sports and my concept is pretty utopian, but come on!

Cincinnati Bearcats are not in the so called "power 5", but they are not a mid major BB program. They are a power program - even though they lost to Harvard. Same with UConn (3 national championships) and Memphis. They are not mid majors. The cutoff in basketball is not the same in football. The American is not a mid major in basketball. You could argue one way or the other if they are in football, but definitely not in BB. 4 tourney teams and should have been 5 with SMU. 5 teams in top 25 most of year.

The real divider in basketball is "One Bid League" IE usually only in the Big Dance because it has to take your tournament champ and "Multi Bid Leagues" where one has lots of good teams besides the winner of the CTG.

But even then, a single elimination tournament throws out the door on who is actually better on any given day

(03-21-2014 03:05 AM)FargoBison Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 01:36 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 12:36 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 12:26 AM)Chuck A Wrote:  I realize it's a slow process, but I am so glad the mid-majors are narrowing the divide between them and the so-called high-majors of P5 schools. It has happened in some of the non-conference football games and in basketball, the notoriety mostly comes during the Big Dance.

Teams like an Ohio State, get their comeuppance during the Dance and make teams like Dayton and their fans feel so good and worthy, mostly because the Ohio States think they're too good to play and think they are above in-state teams like the Flyers. It still may take some years before the divide is almost non-existent, which is another reason I believe the P5 wants to have control and near autonomy, thus controlling the money. If everything is even or nearly even, what's the point in separating?

Good for Dayton, South Dakota State, Harvard and St. Louis. There will be more. Yeah, I'm a "mid-major" guy!

Not a good day for those "O" schools, like Oklahoma, and THE Ohio State University.

It was even worse for the "B" schools

Buckeyes- lost
Buffaloes- lost
Bearcats- lost
Broncos- lost
BYU- lost
Blue Hens- lost

The Badgers were the only B to survive.

Pretty good day for the Bison of the North Dakota State!

Best school in the USA for pulling the big upsets in FB/BB.

Those "B" schools can be a real bitch in the tournament.

(03-21-2014 08:55 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  If you liked these mid majors so much, you probably should get their names right...

As I mentioned, I hate the term and therefore don't personally use it. I stated that the media and Power 5 conferences use the term, in essence, to keep the non-Power 5 schools at arm's length and to control the power. You may be well within your right not to qualify a school as a mid-major. My point is that "others" do it for you.

"...you probably should get their names right..." that's funny!

(03-21-2014 11:13 AM)Chuck A Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 08:55 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  If you liked these mid majors so much, you probably should get their names right...

As I mentioned, I hate the term and therefore don't personally use it. I stated that the media and Power 5 conferences use the term, in essence, to keep the non-Power 5 schools at arm's length and to control the power. You may be well within your right not to qualify a school as a mid-major. My point is that "others" do it for you.

"...you probably should get their names right..." that's funny!

I meant you listed SOuth Dakokta State as one of the winners...it was NDSU that won.

(03-21-2014 11:15 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 11:13 AM)Chuck A Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 08:55 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  If you liked these mid majors so much, you probably should get their names right...

As I mentioned, I hate the term and therefore don't personally use it. I stated that the media and Power 5 conferences use the term, in essence, to keep the non-Power 5 schools at arm's length and to control the power. You may be well within your right not to qualify a school as a mid-major. My point is that "others" do it for you.

"...you probably should get their names right..." that's funny!

I meant you listed SOuth Dakokta State as one of the winners...it was NDSU that won.

My mistake. Sorry. It was North Dakota State. Thanks for the correction.