(03-31-2014 10:21 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:18 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:16 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:13 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:06 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Most definitely not a useless post...

I'm just providing you with a mirror through which you can recognize the idiocy of starting a new pointless thread, because you (for some reason) aren't able to glean that information from the countless realignment threads in this forum.

Because situations change and th efinal four run is important because the Bball program has clearly stabilized. You need to learn some manners and just not click on the thread if you have no interest. You also may need to grow up.

If you are really serious about this, you should have posted the thread on the ACC board, not the AAC board. What possible sense does it make to ask AAC fans why UCONN isn't in the ACC?

Are you really a student at Tulane?

Hey donky, because this is where the UConn fans are and I may just be a lowly TU grad, but I am relatively sure that the fans of a school have the most knowledge about their value and why they have not moved up.

So first it was, why another realignment thread, now it is you should have posted it to a bunch of people that are less knowledgeable and probably careless.

Take a time out pal.

Lmao.. Fans of a school are probably the last people that you should seek valuations from.

This is a dumb thread, especially when we're all celebrating UCONN's achievement for the AAC.

What part of don't click on it do you not understand.

(03-31-2014 10:23 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:21 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:18 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:16 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:13 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Because situations change and th efinal four run is important because the Bball program has clearly stabilized. You need to learn some manners and just not click on the thread if you have no interest. You also may need to grow up.

If you are really serious about this, you should have posted the thread on the ACC board, not the AAC board. What possible sense does it make to ask AAC fans why UCONN isn't in the ACC?

Are you really a student at Tulane?

Hey donky, because this is where the UConn fans are and I may just be a lowly TU grad, but I am relatively sure that the fans of a school have the most knowledge about their value and why they have not moved up.

So first it was, why another realignment thread, now it is you should have posted it to a bunch of people that are less knowledgeable and probably careless.

Take a time out pal.

Lmao.. Fans of a school are probably the last people that you should seek valuations from.

This is a dumb thread, especially when we're all celebrating UCONN's achievement for the AAC.

What part of don't click on it do you not understand.

Wrong board OP, this should be on the Realignment board. UConn has been preparing themselves for an invite, they are going down a checklist provided to them by the B1G, it's not a secret. That said, when/if an invite comes, it'll have jack **** to do with Tourney or football results, the B1G wants research money (AAU), which far dwarfs the sports money.

(03-31-2014 10:29 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  Wrong board OP, this should be on the Realignment board. UConn has been preparing themselves for an invite, they are going down a checklist provided to them by the B1G, it's not a secret. That said, when/if an invite comes, it'll have jack **** to do with Tourney or football results, the B1G wants research money (AAU), which far dwarfs the sports money.

Let's not post threads like these on the realignment board...

The Anti-UCONN Trolls eat this stuff up.

UCONN won't ever be in the ACC unless something crazy in realignment occurs, and I don't see any big moves anytime soon. Our best bet is to continue our basketball success and rebuild our football in the AAC.

(03-31-2014 10:37 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:29 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  Wrong board OP, this should be on the Realignment board. UConn has been preparing themselves for an invite, they are going down a checklist provided to them by the B1G, it's not a secret. That said, when/if an invite comes, it'll have jack **** to do with Tourney or football results, the B1G wants research money (AAU), which far dwarfs the sports money.

Let's not post threads like these on the realignment board...

The Anti-UCONN Trolls eat this stuff up.

UCONN won't ever be in the ACC unless something crazy in realignment occurs, and I don't see any big moves anytime soon. Our best bet is to continue our basketball success and rebuild our football in the AAC.

True, but the people replying in this thread (and those who have yet to reply) will **** all over the idea also. UConn is aiming for the B1G, nothing wrong with that, their fans shouldn't have to defend it, the school has positioned themselves well for the possibility. In the meantime, they are doing a fine job representing the AAC.

(03-31-2014 10:29 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  Wrong board OP, this should be on the Realignment board. UConn has been preparing themselves for an invite, they are going down a checklist provided to them by the B1G, it's not a secret. That said, when/if an invite comes, it'll have jack **** to do with Tourney or football results, the B1G wants research money (AAU), which far dwarfs the sports money.

Looks like Tulane is the only 2014-15 member who has AAU membership. No doubt that UConn is working in that direction however. A quote in the Chicago Tribune

A spokesman for nonmember University of Connecticut called it "perhaps the most elite organization in higher education. You'd probably be hard-pressed to find a major research university that didn't want to be a member of the AAU."[2]

(03-31-2014 10:43 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:29 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  Wrong board OP, this should be on the Realignment board. UConn has been preparing themselves for an invite, they are going down a checklist provided to them by the B1G, it's not a secret. That said, when/if an invite comes, it'll have jack **** to do with Tourney or football results, the B1G wants research money (AAU), which far dwarfs the sports money.

Looks like Tulane is the only 2014-15 member who has AAU membership. No doubt that UConn is working in that direction however. A quote in the Chicago Tribune

A spokesman for nonmember University of Connecticut called it "perhaps the most elite organization in higher education. You'd probably be hard-pressed to find a major research university that didn't want to be a member of the AAU."[2]

I believe they are making huge academic investments with that in mind. It's a huge issue for the B10, obviously. I wonder if the presidency of the AAU for Tulane helped us convince UConn and perhaps Cinci/SMU to support Tulane's inclusion.

I don't think the b10 is ever inviting uconn.

the uconn campus looks nothing like your typical b10 campus. uconn's stadium is smaller than any b10 stadium. the b10 schools are much much larger and completely blow uconn away in endowment disparity.

northwestern is the only b10 school that does better in the US news than ARWU (by 11 spots). it is largely because they are a private school and the arwu has the tendency to favor public schools. uconn's us news ranking is 29 spots higher than their ARWU. just goes to show that despite being a public school landgrant, uconn academic tendencies are not in line with the b10, but they are in line with the ACC whose schools tend to do stronger in the USNRW.

we all know the acc isn't inviting them as long as cuse, bc, fsu, miami & cu are in the conference.

uconn's best bet is the b12.

(03-31-2014 10:37 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:29 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  Wrong board OP, this should be on the Realignment board. UConn has been preparing themselves for an invite, they are going down a checklist provided to them by the B1G, it's not a secret. That said, when/if an invite comes, it'll have jack **** to do with Tourney or football results, the B1G wants research money (AAU), which far dwarfs the sports money.

Let's not post threads like these on the realignment board...

The Anti-UCONN Trolls eat this stuff up.

UCONN won't ever be in the ACC unless something crazy in realignment occurs, and I don't see any big moves anytime soon. Our best bet is to continue our basketball success and rebuild our football in the AAC.

Why not, I am not being argumentative but their profile just feels to be a better fit than many of the current ACC members?

To be sure, it would suck as an AAC fan, but UConn just feels like a P5 school. Not trying to be pessimistic, just trying to figure out why.

(03-31-2014 10:48 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I don't think the b10 is ever inviting uconn.

the uconn campus looks nothing like your typical b10 campus. uconn's stadium is smaller than any b10 stadium. the b10 schools are much much larger and completely blow uconn away in endowment disparity.

northwestern is the only b10 school that does better in the US news than ARWU (by 11 spots). it is largely because they are a private school and the arwu has the tendency to favor public schools. uconn's us news ranking is 29 spots higher than their ARWU. just goes to show that despite being a public school landgrant, uconn academic tendencies are not in line with the b10, but they are in line with the ACC whose schools tend to do stronger in the USNRW.

we all know the acc isn't inviting them as long as cuse, bc, fsu, miami & cu are in the conference.

uconn's best bet is the b12.

Just curious, do you know whether accepting a new member must be 2/3, unanimous or majority? The B12 just doesn't feel right and I actually think UConn would rather hang around the AAC, dominate (or at least always be near the top in both sports) and wait on the B10 or ACC instead of dealing with the potential instability, travel and poor fit with the B12.

(03-31-2014 10:51 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:37 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:29 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  Wrong board OP, this should be on the Realignment board. UConn has been preparing themselves for an invite, they are going down a checklist provided to them by the B1G, it's not a secret. That said, when/if an invite comes, it'll have jack **** to do with Tourney or football results, the B1G wants research money (AAU), which far dwarfs the sports money.

Let's not post threads like these on the realignment board...

The Anti-UCONN Trolls eat this stuff up.

UCONN won't ever be in the ACC unless something crazy in realignment occurs, and I don't see any big moves anytime soon. Our best bet is to continue our basketball success and rebuild our football in the AAC.

Why not, I am not being argumentative but their profile just feels to be a better fit than many of the current ACC members?

To be sure, it would suck as an AAC fan, but UConn just feels like a P5 school. Not trying to be pessimistic, just trying to figure out why.

The northern ACC schools don't want to compete for recruits against UCONN. The southern ACC schools don't want another northern school. The only pro-UCONN votes would come from Tobacco Road (Duke, UNC, Wake, UVA) and that voting block isn't enough to gain admittance.

(03-31-2014 10:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:51 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:37 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:29 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  Wrong board OP, this should be on the Realignment board. UConn has been preparing themselves for an invite, they are going down a checklist provided to them by the B1G, it's not a secret. That said, when/if an invite comes, it'll have jack **** to do with Tourney or football results, the B1G wants research money (AAU), which far dwarfs the sports money.

Let's not post threads like these on the realignment board...

The Anti-UCONN Trolls eat this stuff up.

UCONN won't ever be in the ACC unless something crazy in realignment occurs, and I don't see any big moves anytime soon. Our best bet is to continue our basketball success and rebuild our football in the AAC.

Why not, I am not being argumentative but their profile just feels to be a better fit than many of the current ACC members?

To be sure, it would suck as an AAC fan, but UConn just feels like a P5 school. Not trying to be pessimistic, just trying to figure out why.

The northern ACC schools don't want to compete for recruits against UCONN. The southern ACC schools don't want another northern school. The only pro-UCONN votes would come from Tobacco Road (Duke, UNC, Wake, UVA) and that voting block isn't enough to gain admittance.

Seems reasonable, thanks. I guess I just thought that in most situations $ talks and UConn would add more than they diluted.

(03-31-2014 10:00 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  UConn fits perfectly but they aren't a school that you expand for.

That's a good point. If UConn were in the ACC right now, nobody in the ACC would be saying "damn, how did we get stuck with UConn? How can we get rid of them"? As you say, they would fit fine.

But it is also true that they don't bring enough to the table to expand for. They don't bring additional media value.

Navy as a football only and UConn to the ACC would be the final piece to the ACC puzzle. 16 for basketball and 16 for football. UConn could help them eventually push the Big East out the garden.

(03-31-2014 10:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:00 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  UConn fits perfectly but they aren't a school that you expand for.

That's a good point. If UConn were in the ACC right now, nobody in the ACC would be saying "damn, how did we get stuck with UConn? How can we get rid of them"? As you say, they would fit fine.

But it is also true that they don't bring enough to the table to expand for. They don't bring additional media value.

I guess that is why I started the thread to some degree, didn't this weekend show that they do have a brand that can have a real impact in the largest market in the world? I mean Rutgers got moved to the B10 on the chance that they can grow and make a real impact in NYC, Uconn is already there.

Did the ACC "need" to add Louisville?

(03-31-2014 10:53 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:48 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I don't think the b10 is ever inviting uconn.

the uconn campus looks nothing like your typical b10 campus. uconn's stadium is smaller than any b10 stadium. the b10 schools are much much larger and completely blow uconn away in endowment disparity.

northwestern is the only b10 school that does better in the US news than ARWU (by 11 spots). it is largely because they are a private school and the arwu has the tendency to favor public schools. uconn's us news ranking is 29 spots higher than their ARWU. just goes to show that despite being a public school landgrant, uconn academic tendencies are not in line with the b10, but they are in line with the ACC whose schools tend to do stronger in the USNRW.

we all know the acc isn't inviting them as long as cuse, bc, fsu, miami & cu are in the conference.

uconn's best bet is the b12.

Just curious, do you know whether accepting a new member must be 2/3, unanimous or majority? The B12 just doesn't feel right and I actually think UConn would rather hang around the AAC, dominate (or at least always be near the top in both sports) and wait on the B10 or ACC instead of dealing with the potential instability, travel and poor fit with the B12.

it varies by conference, but most conferences can add membership even with a few NO votes. but if you have a case like BC where there's a serious grudge between schools they can blackball them. If one school raises enough fuss they will get their way simply because the others don't want to deal with the headache.

if BC was blackballing texas from the acc, the other acc schools would out vote them because texas is well worth the headache of bringing in a school against the wishes of a member.

uconn doesn't bring enough to the table for the rest of the acc to ever override BC, and on top of that BC clearly has no shortage of allies in their anti-uconn crusade. any hope of uconn joining the ACC died when syracuse accepted the ACC invite because they will be just as persistent as BC will in blocking uconn.

(03-31-2014 11:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:53 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:48 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I don't think the b10 is ever inviting uconn.

the uconn campus looks nothing like your typical b10 campus. uconn's stadium is smaller than any b10 stadium. the b10 schools are much much larger and completely blow uconn away in endowment disparity.

northwestern is the only b10 school that does better in the US news than ARWU (by 11 spots). it is largely because they are a private school and the arwu has the tendency to favor public schools. uconn's us news ranking is 29 spots higher than their ARWU. just goes to show that despite being a public school landgrant, uconn academic tendencies are not in line with the b10, but they are in line with the ACC whose schools tend to do stronger in the USNRW.

we all know the acc isn't inviting them as long as cuse, bc, fsu, miami & cu are in the conference.

uconn's best bet is the b12.

Just curious, do you know whether accepting a new member must be 2/3, unanimous or majority? The B12 just doesn't feel right and I actually think UConn would rather hang around the AAC, dominate (or at least always be near the top in both sports) and wait on the B10 or ACC instead of dealing with the potential instability, travel and poor fit with the B12.

it varies by conference, but most conferences can add membership even with a few NO votes. but if you have a case like BC where there's a serious grudge between schools they can blackball them. If one school raises enough fuss they will get their way simply because the others don't want to deal with the headache.

if BC was blackballing texas from the acc, the other acc schools would out vote them because texas is well worth the headache of bringing in a school against the wishes of a member.

uconn doesn't bring enough to the table for the rest of the acc to ever override BC, and on top of that BC clearly has no shortage of allies in their anti-uconn crusade. any hope of uconn joining the ACC died when syracuse accepted the ACC invite because they will be just as persistent as BC will in blocking uconn.

Just curious. How do you know all that?

(03-31-2014 11:07 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:00 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  UConn fits perfectly but they aren't a school that you expand for.

That's a good point. If UConn were in the ACC right now, nobody in the ACC would be saying "damn, how did we get stuck with UConn? How can we get rid of them"? As you say, they would fit fine.

But it is also true that they don't bring enough to the table to expand for. They don't bring additional media value.

I guess that is why I started the thread to some degree, didn't this weekend show that they do have a brand that can have a real impact in the largest market in the world? I mean Rutgers got moved to the B10 on the chance that they can grow and make a real impact in NYC, Uconn is already there.

Did the ACC "need" to add Louisville?

Incredible that you graduated from Tulane. That's not why Rutgers was offered B1G membership at all. Rutgers doesn't have to "grow" a bit and the B1G would still be getting exactly what they invited them for.

(03-31-2014 11:16 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 11:07 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:00 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  UConn fits perfectly but they aren't a school that you expand for.

That's a good point. If UConn were in the ACC right now, nobody in the ACC would be saying "damn, how did we get stuck with UConn? How can we get rid of them"? As you say, they would fit fine.

But it is also true that they don't bring enough to the table to expand for. They don't bring additional media value.

I guess that is why I started the thread to some degree, didn't this weekend show that they do have a brand that can have a real impact in the largest market in the world? I mean Rutgers got moved to the B10 on the chance that they can grow and make a real impact in NYC, Uconn is already there.

Did the ACC "need" to add Louisville?

Incredible that you graduated from Tulane. That's not why Rutgers was offered B1G membership at all. Rutgers doesn't have to "grow" a bit and the B1G would still be getting exactly what they invited them for.

What did they invite them for?

(03-31-2014 11:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:53 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(03-31-2014 10:48 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I don't think the b10 is ever inviting uconn.

the uconn campus looks nothing like your typical b10 campus. uconn's stadium is smaller than any b10 stadium. the b10 schools are much much larger and completely blow uconn away in endowment disparity.

northwestern is the only b10 school that does better in the US news than ARWU (by 11 spots). it is largely because they are a private school and the arwu has the tendency to favor public schools. uconn's us news ranking is 29 spots higher than their ARWU. just goes to show that despite being a public school landgrant, uconn academic tendencies are not in line with the b10, but they are in line with the ACC whose schools tend to do stronger in the USNRW.

we all know the acc isn't inviting them as long as cuse, bc, fsu, miami & cu are in the conference.

uconn's best bet is the b12.

Just curious, do you know whether accepting a new member must be 2/3, unanimous or majority? The B12 just doesn't feel right and I actually think UConn would rather hang around the AAC, dominate (or at least always be near the top in both sports) and wait on the B10 or ACC instead of dealing with the potential instability, travel and poor fit with the B12.

it varies by conference, but most conferences can add membership even with a few NO votes. but if you have a case like BC where there's a serious grudge between schools they can blackball them. If one school raises enough fuss they will get their way simply because the others don't want to deal with the headache.

if BC was blackballing texas from the acc, the other acc schools would out vote them because texas is well worth the headache of bringing in a school against the wishes of a member.

uconn doesn't bring enough to the table for the rest of the acc to ever override BC, and on top of that BC clearly has no shortage of allies in their anti-uconn crusade. any hope of uconn joining the ACC died when syracuse accepted the ACC invite because they will be just as persistent as BC will in blocking uconn.

With each losing season BC's credibility has to diminish. Off the record, I'd say there are plenty of ACC schools that would prefer UConn over BC these days. These leagues are growing tired of smallerish private schools diluting the payouts and adding little value. Not to mention the ROI for some privates is diminishing and there could be some movement, even with higher end schools.