(04-13-2014 02:19 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Save everyone a little time. Those links mostly point to the same handful of cases. People who "almost" didn't get to vote because of questions. People without ID casting provisional ballots. Claims of ignorance of the law. Complaints about having to wait in line to get ID, ignoring that everybody else has to wait in those same lines. Hardships to get birth certificates. Guess I've struggled in life more than I was aware.

hey dumb***. READ THE FUCKEN LINKS

one of those links had 20 different cases. and while you call me out for lying i am gonna call you out for (actually) lying because I have read those links and know that none of them are the same.

it is this type of willfully ignoring facts that I am talking about. time & time again GOPers are unwilling to look at the facts and/or look at logic.

when someone simultaneously says the AP, ACLU, NPR, & NBC do not count as "solid sources"

it becomes pretty apparent that I am dealing with a bunch of idiots.

(04-13-2014 02:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:14 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  John, is it easier to get a voter ID card or sign up for the federally mandated, IRS enforced Obamacare?

and only a dumb*** like yourself doesn't understand the difference between the two.

the right to vote is universal and should be available to everyone who is eligible. it is something that should never include excessive burdens to do so.

On top of that GOPers are clueless to reality when they think no one would ever abuse voting laws/polling station by being excessively strict on IDs, making lines longer, redrawing districts etc.

Getting an ID is not excessively burdensome. As I pointed out before, the lefts arguments do not support the conclusion that requiring ID is a burden to anyone. Logic Jo0, is not your strong suite.

(04-13-2014 02:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:14 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  John, is it easier to get a voter ID card or sign up for the federally mandated, IRS enforced Obamacare?

and only a dumb*** like yourself doesn't understand the difference between the two.

the right to vote is universal and should be available to everyone who is eligible. it is something that should never include excessive burdens to do so.

On top of that GOPers are clueless to reality when they think no one would ever abuse voting laws/polling station by being excessively strict on IDs, making lines longer, redrawing districts etc.

John John, voting might be a universal right but it's a person's choice if they vote or not along with who they vote for. But Obamacare is a universal mandate - YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE - and if you don't have the means to sign up you violate the law and the Feds don't want to hear about how difficult signing up was.

But you didn't answer the question; is it easier to get a voter ID card or sign up for Obamacare?

(04-13-2014 02:12 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 01:58 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 01:56 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 01:48 PM)Paul M Wrote:  So you're going to compound your lie by lying about being correct.

well any time I give yall factual examples yall just ignore them:



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10...dge-voter/

A Texas district judge who has been voting for the past five decades was almost barred from the polls Tuesday, thanks to the state’s newly implemented, stricter voter ID law. The law kicked in on Tuesday as early voting in Texas’ November 5 election began.

As she told local channel Kiii News, 117th District Court Judge Sandra Watts was flagged for possible voter fraud because her driver’s license lists her maiden name as her middle name, while her voter registration form has her real middle name.



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/11...affidavit/

Attorney General Greg Abbott ®, voter ID’s most strident defender, was also flagged as a suspicious voter under his own law’s strict criteria.

Abbott was flagged because his license lists his name as “Gregory Wayne Abbott” while his voter registration record simply calls him “Greg Abbott.”

Longtime voters, particularly married women who have taken a spouse’s name, are being stopped at the polls because their names on their drivers’ licenses differ from their voter registration forms. Thanks to an amendment added by Wendy Davis, voters who clearly have “substantially similar” names can still cast a regular ballot by signing an affidavit affirming their identity. If the law had gone through unmodified as Abbott originally supported, he would have disenfranchised himself.

at this point there are so many examples from so many different media sources that you have to be a true partisan hick not to see the problems here. Just further proof the republicans are willful idiots because they are incapable of seeing things from someone else's perspective.

LMAO wow John, those sources are solid.

someone being registered to vote with their middle name but their drivers license only including their middle initial has turned people away from the polls ==> is that just the liberal spin on things or are you too dumb to see the problem here?

Any more lies you need me to dispel?

(04-13-2014 02:27 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:14 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  John, is it easier to get a voter ID card or sign up for the federally mandated, IRS enforced Obamacare?

and only a dumb*** like yourself doesn't understand the difference between the two.

the right to vote is universal and should be available to everyone who is eligible. it is something that should never include excessive burdens to do so.

On top of that GOPers are clueless to reality when they think no one would ever abuse voting laws/polling station by being excessively strict on IDs, making lines longer, redrawing districts etc.

Getting an ID is not excessively burdensome. As I pointed out before, the lefts arguments do not support the conclusion that requiring ID is a burden to anyone. Logic Jo0, is not your strong suite.

and as i pointed out numerous times before it is not that simple. the GOPers have an inability to look at things from someones else's perspective. if you had bothered to read the links I provided you would actually know how some people through no fault of their own can not obtain the proper IDs despite being eligible to vote.

its the typical "these problems have never happened to me so there is no way it could ever happen to someone else" BS attitude from republicans.

it is comments like these that once again reaffirm that the GOPers on this board have absolutely no desire to look at the actual evidence. they would rather followed a false fantasy that agrees with their belief rather than be man enough to admit that there are legitimate issues being raised with these ID laws

(04-13-2014 02:34 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:12 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 01:58 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 01:56 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 01:48 PM)Paul M Wrote:  So you're going to compound your lie by lying about being correct.

well any time I give yall factual examples yall just ignore them:



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10...dge-voter/

A Texas district judge who has been voting for the past five decades was almost barred from the polls Tuesday, thanks to the state’s newly implemented, stricter voter ID law. The law kicked in on Tuesday as early voting in Texas’ November 5 election began.

As she told local channel Kiii News, 117th District Court Judge Sandra Watts was flagged for possible voter fraud because her driver’s license lists her maiden name as her middle name, while her voter registration form has her real middle name.



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/11...affidavit/

Attorney General Greg Abbott ®, voter ID’s most strident defender, was also flagged as a suspicious voter under his own law’s strict criteria.

Abbott was flagged because his license lists his name as “Gregory Wayne Abbott” while his voter registration record simply calls him “Greg Abbott.”

Longtime voters, particularly married women who have taken a spouse’s name, are being stopped at the polls because their names on their drivers’ licenses differ from their voter registration forms. Thanks to an amendment added by Wendy Davis, voters who clearly have “substantially similar” names can still cast a regular ballot by signing an affidavit affirming their identity. If the law had gone through unmodified as Abbott originally supported, he would have disenfranchised himself.

at this point there are so many examples from so many different media sources that you have to be a true partisan hick not to see the problems here. Just further proof the republicans are willful idiots because they are incapable of seeing things from someone else's perspective.

LMAO wow John, those sources are solid.

someone being registered to vote with their middle name but their drivers license only including their middle initial has turned people away from the polls ==> is that just the liberal spin on things or are you too dumb to see the problem here?

Any more lies you need me to dispel?

as usual dumb*** ignores all the other links that he can't counter. classic case of stupid

(04-13-2014 02:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:14 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  John, is it easier to get a voter ID card or sign up for the federally mandated, IRS enforced Obamacare?

and only a dumb*** like yourself doesn't understand the difference between the two.

the right to vote is universal and should be available to everyone who is eligible. it is something that should never include excessive burdens to do so.

On top of that GOPers are clueless to reality when they think no one would ever abuse voting laws/polling station by being excessively strict on IDs, making lines longer, redrawing districts etc.

John John, voting might be a universal right but it's a person's choice if they vote or not along with who they vote for. But Obamacare is a universal mandate - YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE - and if you don't have the means to sign up you violate the law and the Feds don't want to hear about how difficult signing up was.

But you didn't answer the question; is it easier to get a voter ID card or sign up for Obamacare?

so you agree that you are a dumb*** by thinking obamacare & voting are comparable..........

and if you wanna talk about "not having a choice" lets talk about taxes.....

oh wait we already know john roberts position on that

(04-13-2014 02:27 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:14 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  John, is it easier to get a voter ID card or sign up for the federally mandated, IRS enforced Obamacare?

and only a dumb*** like yourself doesn't understand the difference between the two.

the right to vote is universal and should be available to everyone who is eligible. it is something that should never include excessive burdens to do so.

On top of that GOPers are clueless to reality when they think no one would ever abuse voting laws/polling station by being excessively strict on IDs, making lines longer, redrawing districts etc.

Getting an ID is not excessively burdensome. As I pointed out before, the lefts arguments do not support the conclusion that requiring ID is a burden to anyone. Logic Jo0, is not your strong suite.

the lefts argument perfectly supports that conclusion......the right is too stupid to understand

(04-13-2014 02:34 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:27 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:14 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  John, is it easier to get a voter ID card or sign up for the federally mandated, IRS enforced Obamacare?

and only a dumb*** like yourself doesn't understand the difference between the two.

the right to vote is universal and should be available to everyone who is eligible. it is something that should never include excessive burdens to do so.

On top of that GOPers are clueless to reality when they think no one would ever abuse voting laws/polling station by being excessively strict on IDs, making lines longer, redrawing districts etc.

Getting an ID is not excessively burdensome. As I pointed out before, the lefts arguments do not support the conclusion that requiring ID is a burden to anyone. Logic Jo0, is not your strong suite.

and as i pointed out numerous times before it is not that simple. the GOPers have an inability to look at things from someones else's perspective. if you had bothered to read the links I provided you would actually know how some people through no fault of their own can not obtain the proper IDs despite being eligible to vote.

its the typical "these problems have never happened to me so there is no way it could ever happen to someone else" BS attitude from republicans.

it is comments like these that once again reaffirm that the GOPers on this board have absolutely no desire to look at the actual evidence. they would rather followed a false fantasy that agrees with their belief rather than be man enough to admit that there are legitimate issues being raised with these ID laws

I did look and they are fallacious. They do not support the conclusion that it is overly burdensome. You have been shown this repeatedly yet you still continue the lie.

(04-13-2014 02:37 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:33 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:14 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  John, is it easier to get a voter ID card or sign up for the federally mandated, IRS enforced Obamacare?

and only a dumb*** like yourself doesn't understand the difference between the two.

the right to vote is universal and should be available to everyone who is eligible. it is something that should never include excessive burdens to do so.

On top of that GOPers are clueless to reality when they think no one would ever abuse voting laws/polling station by being excessively strict on IDs, making lines longer, redrawing districts etc.

John John, voting might be a universal right but it's a person's choice if they vote or not along with who they vote for. But Obamacare is a universal mandate - YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE - and if you don't have the means to sign up you violate the law and the Feds don't want to hear about how difficult signing up was.

But you didn't answer the question; is it easier to get a voter ID card or sign up for Obamacare?

so you agree that you are a dumb*** by thinking obamacare & voting are comparable..........

and if you wanna talk about "not having a choice" lets talk about taxes.....

oh wait we already know john roberts position on that

Wow. Simply wow. You don't even realize what you just wrote.

"The purpose of this law is to kick the democrats in the butt"
-Don Yelton

"It is perfectly constitutional for a Republican-controlled legislature to make partisan districting decisions, even if there are incidental effects on minority voters who support Democratic candidates"
-State of Texas defense of a redistricting plan in court

just an FYI GOPers this is the type of shenanigans that your politicians are in favor of. It blows my mind how one party can be so willful to do something that is a to democracy time & time again simply because it benefits your political party.

you guys think: the dems are against these laws. It must be because not having these laws is to their benefit.

you guys have the inability to think this way: the republicans support these laws. It must be because it benefits themselves so much.

i LOL at the fact that you guys are so focused on how this impacts democrats and thinking that is the reason for our stance on this. but at the same time have the total inability to look into the mirror and see what republicans have to gain from this and not realize that that is the reason for their agenda.

(04-13-2014 02:39 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:34 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:27 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:14 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  John, is it easier to get a voter ID card or sign up for the federally mandated, IRS enforced Obamacare?

and only a dumb*** like yourself doesn't understand the difference between the two.

the right to vote is universal and should be available to everyone who is eligible. it is something that should never include excessive burdens to do so.

On top of that GOPers are clueless to reality when they think no one would ever abuse voting laws/polling station by being excessively strict on IDs, making lines longer, redrawing districts etc.

Getting an ID is not excessively burdensome. As I pointed out before, the lefts arguments do not support the conclusion that requiring ID is a burden to anyone. Logic Jo0, is not your strong suite.

and as i pointed out numerous times before it is not that simple. the GOPers have an inability to look at things from someones else's perspective. if you had bothered to read the links I provided you would actually know how some people through no fault of their own can not obtain the proper IDs despite being eligible to vote.

its the typical "these problems have never happened to me so there is no way it could ever happen to someone else" BS attitude from republicans.

it is comments like these that once again reaffirm that the GOPers on this board have absolutely no desire to look at the actual evidence. they would rather followed a false fantasy that agrees with their belief rather than be man enough to admit that there are legitimate issues being raised with these ID laws

I did look and they are fallacious. They do not support the conclusion that it is overly burdensome. You have been shown this repeatedly yet you still continue the lie.

they are only fallacious to someone who has the inability to see the truth.

nothing says "removed from reality" more than a GOPer defending voter ID laws.

(04-13-2014 02:21 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:19 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Save everyone a little time. Those links mostly point to the same handful of cases. People who "almost" didn't get to vote because of questions. People without ID casting provisional ballots. Claims of ignorance of the law. Complaints about having to wait in line to get ID, ignoring that everybody else has to wait in those same lines. Hardships to get birth certificates. Guess I've struggled in life more than I was aware.

hey dumb***. READ THE FUCKEN LINKS

one of those links had 20 different cases. and while you call me out for lying i am gonna call you out for (actually) lying because I have read those links and know that none of them are the same.

Fck you you little lying worm.

Link 1 and 2 include the 12 nuns.
Link 1 and 2 Angela Hiss.
Link 3, 4 and 6 Judge Sandra Watts.
Links 4 and 6 Sen. Wendy Davis.

(04-13-2014 02:35 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:34 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:12 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 01:58 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 01:56 PM)john01992 Wrote:  well any time I give yall factual examples yall just ignore them:



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10...dge-voter/

A Texas district judge who has been voting for the past five decades was almost barred from the polls Tuesday, thanks to the state’s newly implemented, stricter voter ID law. The law kicked in on Tuesday as early voting in Texas’ November 5 election began.

As she told local channel Kiii News, 117th District Court Judge Sandra Watts was flagged for possible voter fraud because her driver’s license lists her maiden name as her middle name, while her voter registration form has her real middle name.



http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/11...affidavit/

Attorney General Greg Abbott ®, voter ID’s most strident defender, was also flagged as a suspicious voter under his own law’s strict criteria.

Abbott was flagged because his license lists his name as “Gregory Wayne Abbott” while his voter registration record simply calls him “Greg Abbott.”

Longtime voters, particularly married women who have taken a spouse’s name, are being stopped at the polls because their names on their drivers’ licenses differ from their voter registration forms. Thanks to an amendment added by Wendy Davis, voters who clearly have “substantially similar” names can still cast a regular ballot by signing an affidavit affirming their identity. If the law had gone through unmodified as Abbott originally supported, he would have disenfranchised himself.

at this point there are so many examples from so many different media sources that you have to be a true partisan hick not to see the problems here. Just further proof the republicans are willful idiots because they are incapable of seeing things from someone else's perspective.

LMAO wow John, those sources are solid.

someone being registered to vote with their middle name but their drivers license only including their middle initial has turned people away from the polls ==> is that just the liberal spin on things or are you too dumb to see the problem here?

Any more lies you need me to dispel?

as usual dumb*** ignores all the other links that he can't counter. classic case of stupid

I was only responding to that particular lie, someone being registered to vote with their middle name but their drivers license only including their middle initial has turned people away from the polls.

I pasted the parts of YOUR OWN LINKS that call you on that lie.

(04-13-2014 02:54 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:21 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:19 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Save everyone a little time. Those links mostly point to the same handful of cases. People who "almost" didn't get to vote because of questions. People without ID casting provisional ballots. Claims of ignorance of the law. Complaints about having to wait in line to get ID, ignoring that everybody else has to wait in those same lines. Hardships to get birth certificates. Guess I've struggled in life more than I was aware.

hey dumb***. READ THE FUCKEN LINKS

one of those links had 20 different cases. and while you call me out for lying i am gonna call you out for (actually) lying because I have read those links and know that none of them are the same.

Fck you you little lying worm.

Link 1 and 2 include the 12 nuns.
Link 1 and 2 Angela Hiss.
[/color]you just casually forget to mention that link #1 includes at least 20 different cases
Link 3, 4 and 6 Judge Sandra Watts.
Links 4 and 6 Sen. Wendy Davis.
you just casually forget to mention that those links all involve examples of different people who were all affected by the same law.

considering how big of a lying scheming partisan hick you are ==> you are clearly the worm. like i said before (and i was expecting this) you guys will just deny deny deny the evidence out there because you guys are such partisan hicks.

(04-13-2014 02:58 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:35 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:34 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:12 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 01:58 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  LMAO wow John, those sources are solid.

someone being registered to vote with their middle name but their drivers license only including their middle initial has turned people away from the polls ==> is that just the liberal spin on things or are you too dumb to see the problem here?

Any more lies you need me to dispel?

as usual dumb*** ignores all the other links that he can't counter. classic case of stupid

I was only responding to that particular lie, someone being registered to vote with their middle name but their drivers license only including their middle initial has turned people away from the polls.

I pasted the parts of YOUR OWN LINKS that call you on that lie.

and again i call you a dumb***. you obvious read those links and couldn't realize these two things

1. that it is not as simple as "they can just get an ID and will have no other problems"

2. the process of voting became harder and the added difficulty of doing so affected demographics difficulty.

all i can say is wow!!!!!!!!

you went through those links and couldn't even come to those basic conclusions? you are so dumb as to think "well they voted....see there's no problem" but can't see the serious problems being raised here?

FUCKEN dumb***

(04-13-2014 03:00 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:54 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:21 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(04-13-2014 02:19 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Save everyone a little time. Those links mostly point to the same handful of cases. People who "almost" didn't get to vote because of questions. People without ID casting provisional ballots. Claims of ignorance of the law. Complaints about having to wait in line to get ID, ignoring that everybody else has to wait in those same lines. Hardships to get birth certificates. Guess I've struggled in life more than I was aware.

hey dumb***. READ THE FUCKEN LINKS

one of those links had 20 different cases. and while you call me out for lying i am gonna call you out for (actually) lying because I have read those links and know that none of them are the same.

Fck you you little lying worm.

Link 1 and 2 include the 12 nuns.
Link 1 and 2 Angela Hiss.
[/color]you just casually forget to mention that link #1 includes at least 20 different cases
Link 3, 4 and 6 Judge Sandra Watts.
Links 4 and 6 Sen. Wendy Davis.
you just casually forget to mention that those links all involve examples of different people who were all affected by the same law.

considering how big of a lying scheming partisan hick you are ==> you are clearly the worm. like i said before (and i was expecting this) you guys will just deny deny deny the evidence out there because you guys are such partisan hicks.

Quote:I have read those links and know that none of them are the same.

Clearly I showed that's a lie.