Also the rest of the tv schedule for FB is likely to be revealed at the meetings.

http://hamptonroads.com/2014/05/acc-sche...u-football

how will the 18 games come about unless BB is put into divisions like football

Charlotte's AD confirmed over a month ago that we will have an 18 game schedule during a radio interview.

(05-01-2014 12:56 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  how will the 18 games come about unless BB is put into divisions like football

Play everybody once, and play 5 teams twice. The home/away match-ups can be determined by geography and RPI.

(05-01-2014 01:47 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 12:56 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  how will the 18 games come about unless BB is put into divisions like football

Play everybody once, and play 5 teams twice. The home/away match-ups can be determined by geography and RPI.

This, although I think geography should be taken out of the equation. CUSA needs to do it based on predicted order of finish. They'll make mistakes sometimes, but we have almost no margin for error if we want to get at large bids.

(05-01-2014 01:52 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:47 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 12:56 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  how will the 18 games come about unless BB is put into divisions like football

Play everybody once, and play 5 teams twice. The home/away match-ups can be determined by geography and RPI.

This, although I think geography should be taken out of the equation. CUSA needs to do it based on predicted order of finish. They'll make mistakes sometimes, but we have almost no margin for error if we want to get at large bids.

I think there has to be a balance. I mean, FIU and FAU need to play twice no matter what the expected RPI is. Same with MTSU/WKU, and UTEP/UTSA. Maybe a few others. But yes, the conference needs to cast a cold eye on what match-ups will probably yield the best SOS for the upper-tier teams, and go with it. I'm still sort of stunned that Southern Miss and La. Tech were paired up with Rice and Tulane this past season. If LT or USM had an extra victory over the other one, instead of the second W over Rice/Tulane, that might have made a difference.

(05-01-2014 01:52 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:47 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 12:56 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  how will the 18 games come about unless BB is put into divisions like football

Play everybody once, and play 5 teams twice. The home/away match-ups can be determined by geography and RPI.

This, although I think geography should be taken out of the equation. CUSA needs to do it based on predicted order of finish. They'll make mistakes sometimes, but we have almost no margin for error if we want to get at large bids.

Would be completely novel to wait until mid-January to unveil the February schedule. The top six to eight teams all playing each other in the last month of the regular season.

Not sure if that would help or hurt the TV options. You would think TV execs would like this, but it might be too difficult on everyone involved with regard to scheduling including the schools, TV, etc.

Will we finally find out where the 2015 CUSA basketball tournament will be held?

(05-01-2014 02:28 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Will we finally find out where the 2015 CUSA basketball tournament will be held?

That should be one of the topics discussed.

(05-01-2014 02:16 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:52 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:47 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 12:56 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  how will the 18 games come about unless BB is put into divisions like football

Play everybody once, and play 5 teams twice. The home/away match-ups can be determined by geography and RPI.

This, although I think geography should be taken out of the equation. CUSA needs to do it based on predicted order of finish. They'll make mistakes sometimes, but we have almost no margin for error if we want to get at large bids.

Would be completely novel to wait until mid-January to unveil the February schedule. The top six to eight teams all playing each other in the last month of the regular season.

Not sure if that would help or hurt the TV options. You would think TV execs would like this, but it might be too difficult on everyone involved with regard to scheduling including the schools, TV, etc.

UAB and Charlotte still looked like 2 of the better teams in the conference mid-January. I'm not saying that would happen every year, but I'm not saying it wouldn't either.

I really just think we pretty much need to go off the prior year finish. If there was a tie, then break that with predicted finish.

(05-01-2014 02:14 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:52 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:47 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 12:56 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  how will the 18 games come about unless BB is put into divisions like football

Play everybody once, and play 5 teams twice. The home/away match-ups can be determined by geography and RPI.

This, although I think geography should be taken out of the equation. CUSA needs to do it based on predicted order of finish. They'll make mistakes sometimes, but we have almost no margin for error if we want to get at large bids.

I think there has to be a balance. I mean, FIU and FAU need to play twice no matter what the expected RPI is. Same with MTSU/WKU, and UTEP/UTSA. Maybe a few others. But yes, the conference needs to cast a cold eye on what match-ups will probably yield the best SOS for the upper-tier teams, and go with it. I'm still sort of stunned that Southern Miss and La. Tech were paired up with Rice and Tulane this past season. If LT or USM had an extra victory over the other one, instead of the second W over Rice/Tulane, that might have made a difference.

What is funny is UTSA is closer to Rice, UNT, and La Tech than we are to UTEP, but I do like playing UTEP.

(05-01-2014 05:43 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 02:14 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:52 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:47 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 12:56 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  how will the 18 games come about unless BB is put into divisions like football

Play everybody once, and play 5 teams twice. The home/away match-ups can be determined by geography and RPI.

This, although I think geography should be taken out of the equation. CUSA needs to do it based on predicted order of finish. They'll make mistakes sometimes, but we have almost no margin for error if we want to get at large bids.

I think there has to be a balance. I mean, FIU and FAU need to play twice no matter what the expected RPI is. Same with MTSU/WKU, and UTEP/UTSA. Maybe a few others. But yes, the conference needs to cast a cold eye on what match-ups will probably yield the best SOS for the upper-tier teams, and go with it. I'm still sort of stunned that Southern Miss and La. Tech were paired up with Rice and Tulane this past season. If LT or USM had an extra victory over the other one, instead of the second W over Rice/Tulane, that might have made a difference.

What is funny is UTSA is closer to Rice, UNT, and La Tech than we are to UTEP, but I do like playing UTEP.

Right but I think, rather, the question is who is UTEP closest to, and the answer is us. For better or for worse (and I also like playing UTEP).

El Paso to Denton: ~630 miles
El Paso to SA: ~550 miles

So far all I've heard about expansion being discussed at these upcoming meetings is expanion of the conference basketball schedule.

This may be the first conference get together in a long time where conference expansion is NOT discussed. Unless BB gets his way which would mean it would at least be discussed. Sorry, had to say it.

(05-01-2014 03:03 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 02:16 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:52 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:47 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 12:56 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  how will the 18 games come about unless BB is put into divisions like football

Play everybody once, and play 5 teams twice. The home/away match-ups can be determined by geography and RPI.

This, although I think geography should be taken out of the equation. CUSA needs to do it based on predicted order of finish. They'll make mistakes sometimes, but we have almost no margin for error if we want to get at large bids.

Would be completely novel to wait until mid-January to unveil the February schedule. The top six to eight teams all playing each other in the last month of the regular season.


Not sure if that would help or hurt the TV options. You would think TV execs would like this, but it might be too difficult on everyone involved with regard to scheduling including the schools, TV, etc.

UAB and Charlotte still looked like 2 of the better teams in the conference mid-January. I'm not saying that would happen every year, but I'm not saying it wouldn't either.

I really just think we pretty much need to go off the prior year finish. If there was a tie, then break that with predicted finish.

As far as waiting until January to schedule, it would be a nightmare for travel, both from getting rooms, flights and meals, and quite expensive as well

I'm excited to see the TV schedule. We had a great TV schedule last year, but I'm interested to see if Fox Sports 1 tries to grab more of our games due to the predicted season we'll have.

(05-02-2014 08:52 AM)Woody Woodrum Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 03:03 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 02:16 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:52 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:47 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Play everybody once, and play 5 teams twice. The home/away match-ups can be determined by geography and RPI.

This, although I think geography should be taken out of the equation. CUSA needs to do it based on predicted order of finish. They'll make mistakes sometimes, but we have almost no margin for error if we want to get at large bids.

Would be completely novel to wait until mid-January to unveil the February schedule. The top six to eight teams all playing each other in the last month of the regular season.


Not sure if that would help or hurt the TV options. You would think TV execs would like this, but it might be too difficult on everyone involved with regard to scheduling including the schools, TV, etc.

UAB and Charlotte still looked like 2 of the better teams in the conference mid-January. I'm not saying that would happen every year, but I'm not saying it wouldn't either.

I really just think we pretty much need to go off the prior year finish. If there was a tie, then break that with predicted finish.

As far as waiting until January to schedule, it would be a nightmare for travel, both from getting rooms, flights and meals, and quite expensive as well

Yet, teams do just that for I-AA, Division II and Division III football playoffs every year without any problem. Same thing in the NIT and those other crappy tournaments too.

But to do in the regular season? Oh my. The audacity to even suggest such a thing. Much easier for basketball than any other sports due to the small number of people traveling (usually what about 15 to 20 people?).

(05-02-2014 09:03 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Yet, teams do just that for I-AA, Division II and Division III football playoffs every year without any problem. Same thing in the NIT and those other crappy tournaments too.

But to do in the regular season? Oh my. The audacity to even suggest such a thing. Much easier for basketball than any other sports due to the small number of people traveling (usually what about 15 to 20 people?).

Exactly. The costs can't be that great and the advantage could be phenomenal. This is the kind of thinking needed to advance the league as a whole.

Even if this was done with just TWO games it could help RPI enough to pull an additional team into the NCAA Tourney.Sounds like a great idea.

Releasing the February schedule in January would also wreak havoc on the conference tournament. If your top 6-8 teams are playing mostly each other in the second half of the season, a couple of your good teams end up with ****** records and a ****** seed in the tourney, while whoever is the best of the rest will feast on guppies and end up with a better record/seed than some of those top teams.

Plus if you have a good RPI but a weak OOC, it's going to hurt you in the eyes of the committee and no tinkering around with the conference schedule is going to fix that.

The A-10 (which itself is likely going to an 18-game schedule) has the best formula of mixing regional teams and RPI buddies for a school's H/A matchups. Maybe 2 regional and 3 similarly-rated opponents?

(05-01-2014 05:43 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 02:14 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:52 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:47 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 12:56 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  how will the 18 games come about unless BB is put into divisions like football

Play everybody once, and play 5 teams twice. The home/away match-ups can be determined by geography and RPI.

This, although I think geography should be taken out of the equation. CUSA needs to do it based on predicted order of finish. They'll make mistakes sometimes, but we have almost no margin for error if we want to get at large bids.

I think there has to be a balance. I mean, FIU and FAU need to play twice no matter what the expected RPI is. Same with MTSU/WKU, and UTEP/UTSA. Maybe a few others. But yes, the conference needs to cast a cold eye on what match-ups will probably yield the best SOS for the upper-tier teams, and go with it. I'm still sort of stunned that Southern Miss and La. Tech were paired up with Rice and Tulane this past season. If LT or USM had an extra victory over the other one, instead of the second W over Rice/Tulane, that might have made a difference.

What is funny is UTSA is closer to Rice, UNT, and La Tech than we are to UTEP, but I do like playing UTEP.

Hell, I think Denton is as close to Murfreesboro (TN) as it is to El Paso.