Brass balls with a penchant for overspending. Both Bush and Obama got half of it right.

(06-05-2014 10:11 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  



Compare this to how Obama has dealt with Putin.

Can't even imagine Obama making a speech like that.

(06-05-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I guess some partisan hacks would rather ignore his failed war on drugs, the crash of our economy as a result of his failed conservative policies that got pinned on his successor, avoided blame for the biggest scandal since watergate, blocking sanctions on south africa, and the granddaddy of them all:

ignoring the AIDS crisis and not giving it the proper funding or awareness.

Iran Contra was a huge deal, and I agree that it is one of the biggest scandals since watergate (kind of like the whole gun running we are hearing about now from the DoJ).

AIDS was not really understood at that time and I can't blame him for not pushing for more funding yet.

As I said above, my biggest gripe about him is the same I have for Bush and Obama... overspending.

(06-05-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I guess some partisan hacks would rather ignore his failed war on drugs, the crash of our economy as a result of his failed conservative policies that got pinned on his successor, avoided blame for the biggest scandal since watergate, blocking sanctions on south africa, and the granddaddy of them all:

ignoring the AIDS crisis and not giving it the proper funding or awareness.

I will take Reagan and you take Obama. Want to go head to head with the facts?

(06-05-2014 10:14 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

Don't know if that group of people are terrorists, but imagine the outrage if Obama hosted a group like that to the WH today.....

(06-05-2014 10:16 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I guess some partisan hacks would rather ignore his failed war on drugs, the crash of our economy as a result of his failed conservative policies that got pinned on his successor, avoided blame for the biggest scandal since watergate, blocking sanctions on south africa, and the granddaddy of them all:

ignoring the AIDS crisis and not giving it the proper funding or awareness.

I will take Reagan and you take Obama. Want to go head to head with the facts?

I'll take Bill, thank you...

(06-05-2014 10:18 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:16 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I guess some partisan hacks would rather ignore his failed war on drugs, the crash of our economy as a result of his failed conservative policies that got pinned on his successor, avoided blame for the biggest scandal since watergate, blocking sanctions on south africa, and the granddaddy of them all:

ignoring the AIDS crisis and not giving it the proper funding or awareness.

I will take Reagan and you take Obama. Want to go head to head with the facts?

I'll take Bill, thank you...

This one image says absolutely everything you'll ever need to know about Reagan's accomplishments.

(06-05-2014 10:14 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I guess some partisan hacks would rather ignore his failed war on drugs, the crash of our economy as a result of his failed conservative policies that got pinned on his successor, avoided blame for the biggest scandal since watergate, blocking sanctions on south africa, and the granddaddy of them all:

ignoring the AIDS crisis and not giving it the proper funding or awareness.

Iran Contra was a huge deal, and I agree that it is one of the biggest scandals since watergate (kind of like the whole gun running we are hearing about now from the DoJ).

AIDS was not really understood at that time and I can't blame him for not pushing for more funding yet.

As I said above, my biggest gripe about him is the same I have for Bush and Obama... overspending.

AIDS was declared an epidemic by the CDC in 1981. Reagan did not make his first public comments on the disease until 1985 when asked about it in a press conference. His first actual comments were made in 1986

in 1986 the death count rose to 24,599.
in 1987 that number rose to 40,849.

In 1987 a federal appropriations bill stated that AIDS funding could not be used to encourage homosexuality which blocked any educational programs from promoting safe sex for homosexuals.

in 1988 reagan cut funding to AIDS research.
In 1988 the death count was 61,816

then there's this little stat about the actual funding levels of AIDS: Between June 1981 and May 1982, the
CDC spent less than $1 million on AIDS, but $9 million on Legionnaire’s
Disease. At that point over 1,000 of the 2,000 AIDS cases reported
resulted in death; there were fewer than 50 deaths from Legionnaire’s
Disease.

Ronald Reagan is the perfect example of the consequences when we play politics with a disease. Well before the 80s & even today it is common practice for the government to give massive funding/public awareness to new and previously unknown diseases. there is no "wait and see" you do that every time and it is better to be embarrassed like obama with H1N1 than to have it blow into a crisis. In 1981-1982 AIDS should of been getting a significant amount of federal funding. Instead it was getting marginal funding that was well below the norms of that day.

Like i said earlier the man should rot in hell.

Now I see why liberals despise Reagan...

At the end of his two terms in office, Ronald Reagan viewed with satisfaction the achievements of his innovative program known as the Reagan Revolution, which aimed to reinvigorate the American people and reduce their reliance upon Government.

Yeah, now I understand... He wanted lazy ass ******* to EARN what they wanted...

(06-05-2014 10:04 AM)john01992 Wrote:  he should be rotting in hell IMO

Spoken like a true atheist.

/eyeroll

(06-05-2014 10:40 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:04 AM)john01992 Wrote:  he should be rotting in hell IMO

Spoken like a true atheist.

/eyeroll

i said should =/= is

#bigdifference

(06-05-2014 10:35 AM)john01992 Wrote:  Ronald Reagan is the perfect example of the consequences when we play politics with a disease.

It was pretty apparent that in the 1980's both Ronald Reagan and the American public thought that the cold war was the biggest risk. He overspent on Star Wars and other programs to break the USSR.

I can't believe you are making me defend Reagan.

(06-05-2014 10:41 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:40 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:04 AM)john01992 Wrote:  he should be rotting in hell IMO

Spoken like a true atheist.

/eyeroll

i said should =/= is

#bigdifference

A militant Yay!theist such as yourself doesn't have Hell as a option.
Words have meaning. Post more carefully.

(06-05-2014 10:14 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

Racist.

(06-05-2014 10:44 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:35 AM)john01992 Wrote:  Ronald Reagan is the perfect example of the consequences when we play politics with a disease.

It was pretty apparent that in the 1980's both Ronald Reagan and the American public thought that the cold war was the biggest risk. He overspent on Star Wars and other programs to break the USSR.

I can't believe you are making me defend Reagan.

yeah and that does nothing to explain why Legionnaire’s
Disease received 9x more funding than AIDS.

(06-05-2014 10:45 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:41 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:40 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:04 AM)john01992 Wrote:  he should be rotting in hell IMO

Spoken like a true atheist.

/eyeroll

i said should =/= is

#bigdifference

A militant Yay!theist such as yourself doesn't have Hell as a option.
Words have meaning. Post more carefully.

am I talking about reagan or myself?

pretty sure I said it was reagan who should be rotting in hell.

Why are we talking about GRID?

(06-05-2014 10:18 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:16 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(06-05-2014 10:12 AM)john01992 Wrote:  I guess some partisan hacks would rather ignore his failed war on drugs, the crash of our economy as a result of his failed conservative policies that got pinned on his successor, avoided blame for the biggest scandal since watergate, blocking sanctions on south africa, and the granddaddy of them all:

ignoring the AIDS crisis and not giving it the proper funding or awareness.

I will take Reagan and you take Obama. Want to go head to head with the facts?

I'll take Bill, thank you...

speaking of swinging from someones nutsaq...........