(08-22-2014 01:13 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:03 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Correct, I haven't been to Nippert. If the stadium cannot be expanded past 40K, then plans need to be arranged for UC to either build a new 50K plus stadium (or more) on campus or play at PBS. Anything else is unacceptable.

To you... yet to the national guys who walk into that stadium they talk about how they never want UC to leave the place because it is an incredible experience. 2nd to none. UC is upgrading it to add the suites that it needs and I'm completely happy with that.

Should a team come in that shows a need to go down to PBS, UC will. They did against Oklahoma and Ohio State. Those are the only 2 programs that have ever warranted it that came into Cincinnati. They tried it with UL and WVU but it didn't work out.. averaging about 45,000 for those games just didn't make sense. Pitt never went down there because nobody in Cincinnati gave a sh~t about a mediocre to crappy team that hasn't been competitive in football in decades.

Just as I've heard a number of Pitt fans say that leaving old Pitt Stadium was a killer for the football program although apparently great for the basketball program since the new arena in its place has allowed for MUCH better basketball than ever before. I'll choose to stay safe with UC staying on campus and allowing for a great gameday experience.

Cincy tearing down Nippert in order to gain a few thousand more seats in some generic new stadium would be as sinful as the Red Sox tearing down Fenway Park to build a new cookie cutter MLB ball park. Nippert has character and history. So, let me get this straight, Miko.... Syracuse has "pedigree" for its mediocre football history and Pitt has "pedigree" even though its pro stadium is full of empty yellow seats on gameday, but Cincy playing in charming and historic Nippert doesn't qualify for any "pedigree" points? Makes perfect sense!

(08-22-2014 01:13 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:03 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Correct, I haven't been to Nippert. If the stadium cannot be expanded past 40K, then plans need to be arranged for UC to either build a new 50K plus stadium (or more) on campus or play at PBS. Anything else is unacceptable.

Quote:To you... yet to the national guys who walk into that stadium they talk about how they never want UC to leave the place because it is an incredible experience. 2nd to none. UC is upgrading it to add the suites that it needs and I'm completely happy with that.

Great game day experience or not, it's too small.

Quote:Should a team come in that shows a need to go down to PBS, UC will. They did against Oklahoma and Ohio State. Those are the only 2 programs that have ever warranted it that came into Cincinnati. They tried it with UL and WVU but it didn't work out.. averaging about 45,000 for those games just didn't make sense. Pitt never went down there because nobody in Cincinnati gave a sh~t about a mediocre to crappy team that hasn't been competitive in football in decades.

Even in it's best years, UC couldn't sell out PBS??? Hell, even when Pitt was coached by Walt Harris, Pitt got north of 50K fans in the seats routinely when people thought Pitt had a good shot at doing very well in the conference - pre 2004 that is. For a school that supposedly "shut it down" since 1972, I'd say it's pretty good.

Quote:Just as I've heard a number of Pitt fans say that leaving old Pitt Stadium was a killer for the football program although apparently great for the basketball program since the new arena in its place has allowed for MUCH better basketball than ever before. I'll choose to stay safe with UC staying on campus and allowing for a great gameday experience.

I wish Pitt Stadium was still around. But when it came to getting the capital to make major changes in athletics facilities, it had to do the best it could, so it partnered with the Steelers for Heinz. Heinz never gets built unless Pitt went in with the Steelers. In fact, Heinz has a number Pitt touches built into the stadium. Too bad the Bengals don't care to partner with UC in the same way. [/quote]

(08-22-2014 01:15 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:11 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:06 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 12:59 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 12:38 PM)miko33 Wrote:  OK. Let's review this again. Syracuse has good BB. Syracuse has a northeast presence. Syracuse has a football pedigree.

UCONN has good BB. UCONN has a northeast presence. UCONN has no football pedigree to speak of since they are new to D1 football.

One of these things is not like the other. Can you guess what that difference is????

By that formula why isn't Princeton or Yale in a P5? Each have more than 3 times the national titles in football as Pitt.

Why indeed? I can answer that. In fact, it's common knowledge if you would have chosen to look it up on your own. The IVY league schools voluntarily distanced themselves from college football. They chose to no longer play the game at the highest levels.

Same with Pitt since about 1972.

If you're going to make a joke, at least try to be more clever. Picking a year before Pitt's last national champion season makes you look uninformed. This is starting to get tedious...

Pitts last national title was in 1976 according to this website
http://www.225.pitt.edu/story/pitt-football-nine-titles

I would think a Pitt fan would know this.

Pitt probably got 50K routinely when WVU and ND came to town.

Nobody said Pitt shutdown after 1972.

Pitt really wasn't worthy of the ACC based on their supposed "pedigree" or their on field/on the court accomplishments. They got the nod merely because they are in a decent sized media market and they aren't UConn (thanks for blackballing us, BC).

(08-22-2014 01:24 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I wish Pitt Stadium was still around. But when it came to getting the capital to make major changes in athletics facilities, it had to do the best it could, so it partnered with the Steelers for Heinz. Heinz never gets built unless Pitt went in with the Steelers. In fact, Heinz has a number Pitt touches built into the stadium. Too bad the Bengals don't care to partner with UC in the same way.

UC and the Bengals don't get along very well. UC had redone a lot of Nippert when the Bengals stadium went up for vote and was voted in (as was the Reds stadium). The Bengals wanted a stadium that was only theirs, done exactly to their specifications. There was no reason for either organization to work together 20 years ago.

Now the county has openly asked UC to move downtown. UC said no way. I'm glad, as Nippert brings me back on campus. PBS is a concrete monstrosity that is there to push the Bengals, not UC.

(08-22-2014 01:25 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:15 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:11 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:06 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 12:59 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  By that formula why isn't Princeton or Yale in a P5? Each have more than 3 times the national titles in football as Pitt.

Why indeed? I can answer that. In fact, it's common knowledge if you would have chosen to look it up on your own. The IVY league schools voluntarily distanced themselves from college football. They chose to no longer play the game at the highest levels.

Same with Pitt since about 1972.

If you're going to make a joke, at least try to be more clever. Picking a year before Pitt's last national champion season makes you look uninformed. This is starting to get tedious...

Pitts last national title was in 1976 according to this website
http://www.225.pitt.edu/story/pitt-football-nine-titles

I would think a Pitt fan would know this.

Yes. When Tigeer tried to be clever, he picked a year prior to Pitt hiring 2 great college coaches who made Pitt a national power for at least 10 years AFTER the year Pitt "supposedly" shut it down. Just dumb on his part.

(08-22-2014 01:25 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:15 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:11 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:06 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 12:59 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  By that formula why isn't Princeton or Yale in a P5? Each have more than 3 times the national titles in football as Pitt.

Why indeed? I can answer that. In fact, it's common knowledge if you would have chosen to look it up on your own. The IVY league schools voluntarily distanced themselves from college football. They chose to no longer play the game at the highest levels.

Same with Pitt since about 1972.

If you're going to make a joke, at least try to be more clever. Picking a year before Pitt's last national champion season makes you look uninformed. This is starting to get tedious...

Pitts last national title was in 1976 according to this website
http://www.225.pitt.edu/story/pitt-football-nine-titles

I would think a Pitt fan would know this.

Nice catch. I should change my date to 1977. I think Marino may have followed up that championship year with a horrific one. Heck I don't know, I am recalling all this off the top of my head. I was a young kid in 1977.

(08-22-2014 01:28 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  Pitt probably got 50K routinely when WVU and ND came to town.

Nobody said Pitt shutdown after 1972.

And VT and Miami pre 2004.

Yes you did. I made a comment that the Ivy league schools elected to no longer play football at the highest levels and thus created the IVY league. You responded with "same as Pitt since 1972" - which I interpret as you stating that Pitt no longer tried to play football at the highest level since 1972.

(08-22-2014 01:29 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Pitt really wasn't worthy of the ACC based on their supposed "pedigree" or their on field/on the court accomplishments. They got the nod merely because they are in a decent sized media market and they aren't UConn (thanks for blackballing us, BC).

Yet Pitt was invited to the ACC. Evidently it was worthy.

It's common knowledge that BC did not want UCONN in the ACC. But guess what? A number of other schools did not want UCONN either. Did FSU want UCONN? No. Did Clemson want UCONN? No. How about Syracuse? Not an ACC school at the time, but did they want UCONN in the ACC? No. The problem with this narrative is that it's biased in order to soothe the wounded UCONN fans and their collective ego. The reality is that BC didn't have to lift a finger to blackball anyone (like the rest of the ACC would have listened to them anyways...). A number of other schools did not care for UCONN joining the conference either. Can we please put this fairy tail to bed?

(08-22-2014 01:31 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:25 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:15 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:11 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:06 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Why indeed? I can answer that. In fact, it's common knowledge if you would have chosen to look it up on your own. The IVY league schools voluntarily distanced themselves from college football. They chose to no longer play the game at the highest levels.

Same with Pitt since about 1972.

If you're going to make a joke, at least try to be more clever. Picking a year before Pitt's last national champion season makes you look uninformed. This is starting to get tedious...

Pitts last national title was in 1976 according to this website
http://www.225.pitt.edu/story/pitt-football-nine-titles

I would think a Pitt fan would know this.

Nice catch. I should change my date to 1977. I think Marino may have followed up that championship year with a horrific one. Heck I don't know, I am recalling all this off the top of my head. I was a young kid in 1977.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your recollection. Good for you to remain true to yourself! The Dude would be proud of your "accuracy"...

(08-22-2014 01:31 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:25 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:15 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:11 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:06 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Why indeed? I can answer that. In fact, it's common knowledge if you would have chosen to look it up on your own. The IVY league schools voluntarily distanced themselves from college football. They chose to no longer play the game at the highest levels.

Same with Pitt since about 1972.

If you're going to make a joke, at least try to be more clever. Picking a year before Pitt's last national champion season makes you look uninformed. This is starting to get tedious...

Pitts last national title was in 1976 according to this website
http://www.225.pitt.edu/story/pitt-football-nine-titles

I would think a Pitt fan would know this.

Yes. When Tigeer tried to be clever, he picked a year prior to Pitt hiring 2 great college coaches who made Pitt a national power for at least 10 years AFTER the year Pitt "supposedly" shut it down. Just dumb on his part.

Jackie Sherrill was a great college coach - kinda like the Calipari of FB in his hey day.

(08-22-2014 01:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:31 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:25 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:15 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:11 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  Same with Pitt since about 1972.

If you're going to make a joke, at least try to be more clever. Picking a year before Pitt's last national champion season makes you look uninformed. This is starting to get tedious...

Pitts last national title was in 1976 according to this website
http://www.225.pitt.edu/story/pitt-football-nine-titles

I would think a Pitt fan would know this.

Nice catch. I should change my date to 1977. I think Marino may have followed up that championship year with a horrific one. Heck I don't know, I am recalling all this off the top of my head. I was a young kid in 1977.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your recollection. Good for you to remain true to yourself! The Dude would be proud of your "accuracy"...

What facts would you be talking about slick? As you are very general in your comments. And who is "Dude"?

(08-22-2014 01:41 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:31 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:25 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:15 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:11 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  Same with Pitt since about 1972.

If you're going to make a joke, at least try to be more clever. Picking a year before Pitt's last national champion season makes you look uninformed. This is starting to get tedious...

Pitts last national title was in 1976 according to this website
http://www.225.pitt.edu/story/pitt-football-nine-titles

I would think a Pitt fan would know this.

Yes. When Tigeer tried to be clever, he picked a year prior to Pitt hiring 2 great college coaches who made Pitt a national power for at least 10 years AFTER the year Pitt "supposedly" shut it down. Just dumb on his part.

Jackie Sherrill was a great college coach - kinda like the Calipari of FB in his hey day.

Cool. You used google. I'm so glad.

(08-22-2014 01:31 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:25 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:15 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:11 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:06 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Why indeed? I can answer that. In fact, it's common knowledge if you would have chosen to look it up on your own. The IVY league schools voluntarily distanced themselves from college football. They chose to no longer play the game at the highest levels.

Same with Pitt since about 1972.

If you're going to make a joke, at least try to be more clever. Picking a year before Pitt's last national champion season makes you look uninformed. This is starting to get tedious...

Pitts last national title was in 1976 according to this website
http://www.225.pitt.edu/story/pitt-football-nine-titles

I would think a Pitt fan would know this.

Yes. When Tigeer tried to be clever, he picked a year prior to Pitt hiring 2 great college coaches who made Pitt a national power for at least 10 years AFTER the year Pitt "supposedly" shut it down. Just dumb on his part.

That's not accurate either. Pitt had 4 double digit win seasons from 1973 to 1984. I guess if a winning season equates to national power then you could get to at least 10.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pit...ll_seasons

(08-22-2014 01:45 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:41 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:31 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:25 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:15 PM)miko33 Wrote:  If you're going to make a joke, at least try to be more clever. Picking a year before Pitt's last national champion season makes you look uninformed. This is starting to get tedious...

Pitts last national title was in 1976 according to this website
http://www.225.pitt.edu/story/pitt-football-nine-titles

I would think a Pitt fan would know this.

Yes. When Tigeer tried to be clever, he picked a year prior to Pitt hiring 2 great college coaches who made Pitt a national power for at least 10 years AFTER the year Pitt "supposedly" shut it down. Just dumb on his part.

Jackie Sherrill was a great college coach - kinda like the Calipari of FB in his hey day.

Cool. You used google. I'm so glad.

No, I remember Jackie Sherrill, who couldn't.

(08-22-2014 01:46 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  No, I remember Jackie Sherrill, who couldn't.

All of Pitt's current players. :)

(08-22-2014 01:39 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:29 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Pitt really wasn't worthy of the ACC based on their supposed "pedigree" or their on field/on the court accomplishments. They got the nod merely because they are in a decent sized media market and they aren't UConn (thanks for blackballing us, BC).

Yet Pitt was invited to the ACC. Evidently it was worthy.

It's common knowledge that BC did not want UCONN in the ACC. But guess what? A number of other schools did not want UCONN either. Did FSU want UCONN? No. Did Clemson want UCONN? No. How about Syracuse? Not an ACC school at the time, but did they want UCONN in the ACC? No. The problem with this narrative is that it's biased in order to soothe the wounded UCONN fans and their collective ego. The reality is that BC didn't have to lift a finger to blackball anyone (like the rest of the ACC would have listened to them anyways...). A number of other schools did not care for UCONN joining the conference either. Can we please put this fairy tail to bed?

FSU and Clemson did not want us. Duke, UNC, and Virginia are on record as wanting us.

Cuse and Pitt didn't want us out of fear. The only way that they will ever catch up to UConn basketball is by trying to use the ACC as a tool to sway recruits from coming to UConn. Guess what? It isn't working as Kevin Ollie can recruit almost anyone with that national championship he won this year along with his NBA credentials. On top of that, the schools of the AAC have proven much better than expected on the hardwood.

In football, Cuse and Pitt gain a recruiting advantage by excluding us from the ACC with one less team dipping into the pool of the best northeastern recruits.

BC, Cuse, and Pitt's motto should be, "If you can't beat them, exclude them!"

(08-22-2014 01:45 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:31 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:25 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:15 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:11 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  Same with Pitt since about 1972.

If you're going to make a joke, at least try to be more clever. Picking a year before Pitt's last national champion season makes you look uninformed. This is starting to get tedious...

Pitts last national title was in 1976 according to this website
http://www.225.pitt.edu/story/pitt-football-nine-titles

I would think a Pitt fan would know this.

Yes. When Tigeer tried to be clever, he picked a year prior to Pitt hiring 2 great college coaches who made Pitt a national power for at least 10 years AFTER the year Pitt "supposedly" shut it down. Just dumb on his part.

That's not accurate either. Pitt had 4 double digit win seasons from 1973 to 1984. I guess if a winning season equates to national power then you could get to at least 10.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pit...ll_seasons

Since you have the info., did Marino win a NC championship or not?

(08-22-2014 01:43 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:31 PM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:25 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-22-2014 01:15 PM)miko33 Wrote:  If you're going to make a joke, at least try to be more clever. Picking a year before Pitt's last national champion season makes you look uninformed. This is starting to get tedious...

Pitts last national title was in 1976 according to this website
http://www.225.pitt.edu/story/pitt-football-nine-titles

I would think a Pitt fan would know this.

Nice catch. I should change my date to 1977. I think Marino may have followed up that championship year with a horrific one. Heck I don't know, I am recalling all this off the top of my head. I was a young kid in 1977.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your recollection. Good for you to remain true to yourself! The Dude would be proud of your "accuracy"...

What facts would you be talking about slick? As you are very general in your comments. And who is "Dude"?

Let me get this straight. You're a WVU fan, right? And you don't know who (The) Dude is? I added "The" for you, Mongo...