-- I know once upon a time this was a huge game in New England..this is what college sports is about IMO...sad to see it go


Jackson




http://www.projo.com/pc/content/projo_20...17730.html

Kudos to Providence College for playing Holy Cross.

And even more kudos to the Friars for beating the tenacious Crusaders, who were ahead of Duke by six points at halftime, 28-22, at Cameron Indoor Stadium on Dec. 6 in what was their last game before exams, and also hung in at Syracuse all the way, trailing by only four points with two minutes to go before going down, 72-64, the last week in November.

Which may explain why Boston College no longer wants to play Holy Cross.

For the first time since World War II, the Eagles and Crusaders aren't playing this season. Those two excellent Jesuit institutions of higher learning have been playing for 100 years. But not this year. And they won't be renewing the rivalry any time soon. Quite the opposite, in fact, as BC requested to opt out of a contract with the Cross that still had two years to run.

"They didn't want to play us any more," said Dick Regan, the director of athletics at Holy Cross, who, like his father, grandfather, and daughter, is a Holy Cross alum. "Their coach didn't want to play

It is dissappointing. BC is trying to distinguish themselves from all the other northeastern Catholic schools yet in doing so they are damaging their character. A shame.

Fredo strikes again. I'm shocked. There is nothing about how that school operates I like. Its just a shady shady institution that when it comes time many years from now and I have kids and they're looking at schools I won't pay for them to go there. They are 100% on their own for college expenses if they want to go there. I honestly would fear everything they ever learned about being ethical people would go to waste at good ol' BCU.

I know BC fans would never admit this, but it seems to me they have thrown large percentage of their athletic history out the window in a short amount of time. They have severed ties with the Big East football and non football catholic members. Their actions have alienated Notre Dame who ended the ND/BC football series. Now the BC/Holy Cross series is going by the way-side. From an outsider, that seems like an awfull lot to sacrfice for the scraps at the ACCs table. Of course, if you believe Gene DeFlippo, it was Boston College who dropped Notre Dame in football. But then again, who believes anything the BC AD says these days?


Jackson

College sports is becoming more business than sports. There are Big East schools that quit playing old rivals and others who either won't play or are forced to play regional rivals.

Memphis-Louisville
WVU-Marshall
UConn-UMass
USF-UCF

I think Cincy is talking about dropping Miami.

Jackson1011 Wrote:-- I know once upon a time this was a huge game in New England..this is what college sports is about IMO...sad to see it go

So, then, why do you and others on this board recommend UC dropping Miami-Oh?

MrHankyTheChristmasPoo Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:-- I know once upon a time this was a huge game in New England..this is what college sports is about IMO...sad to see it go

So, then, why do you and others on this board recommend UC dropping Miami-Oh?

I for one have never seen where it was ever recommended that UC drop Miami-OH on here. I also never recommended it myself, in fact I recommend just the opposite its way too old and storied a rivalry to not be played.

brista21 Wrote:

MrHankyTheChristmasPoo Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:-- I know once upon a time this was a huge game in New England..this is what college sports is about IMO...sad to see it go

So, then, why do you and others on this board recommend UC dropping Miami-Oh?

I for one have never seen where it was ever recommended that UC drop Miami-OH on here. I also never recommended it myself, in fact I recommend just the opposite its way too old and storied a rivalry to not be played.

But where should a line be drawn?

What if an old, storied rivalry is still played, but not many in said rivalry area care about the game or bother to show up at the game?

Just look at some recent Cinci/Miami games...as most of them have been played to crowds around 20,000.

Sometimes it's just time to move on...especially if an old historic rivalry doesn't muster up any interest today.

brista21 Wrote:

MrHankyTheChristmasPoo Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:-- I know once upon a time this was a huge game in New England..this is what college sports is about IMO...sad to see it go

So, then, why do you and others on this board recommend UC dropping Miami-Oh?

I for one have never seen where it was ever recommended that UC drop Miami-OH on here. I also never recommended it myself, in fact I recommend just the opposite its way too old and storied a rivalry to not be played.

Jackson and L Yes have been quite outspoken about it. Maybe not enough to claim "others", but there have nevertheless been some comments.

Quote:So, then, why do you and others on this board recommend UC dropping Miami-Oh?

-- Comparing the scheduling process in bbal and football is like comparing apples and oranges. In bball, there are a lot more games and several of them are supposed to be against poor or lower ranked teams. Thus that gives schools who have been rivals in the past but may be at different levels on the college sports food chain a chance to play. For example, West Virginia still plays Duqusene everyyear and George Washington semi-reguarly.

-- Football is different because their are fewer games and conference are being constanly evaluated and reevaluated for the BCS. I think my opinion on how UC has outgrown the miami game is a compliment to the Bearcat program and its potential. Its time UC sells UL and Pitt has being its rivals. It does UC and the Big East no good having a "rivalry" game with the MAC. Has stated above UC doesn't seem to have gotten a spike in attendance by playing Miami. From what I have seen, UC hasn't gotten more meda attention in Cincy for playing Miami. I just don't see the advantages of giving a close geographic non BCS neighbor the status of a home and home series.


Jackson

Jackson1011 Wrote:

Quote:So, then, why do you and others on this board recommend UC dropping Miami-Oh?

-- Comparing the scheduling process in bbal and football is like comparing apples and oranges. In bball, there are a lot more games and several of them are supposed to be against poor or lower ranked teams. Thus that gives schools who have been rivals in the past but may be at different levels on the college sports food chain a chance to play. For example, West Virginia still plays Duqusene everyyear and George Washington semi-reguarly.

-- Football is different because their are fewer games and conference are being constanly evaluated and reevaluated for the BCS. I think my opinion on how UC has outgrown the miami game is a compliment to the Bearcat program and its potential. Its time UC sells UL and Pitt has being its rivals. It does UC and the Big East no good having a "rivalry" game with the MAC. Has stated above UC doesn't seem to have gotten a spike in attendance by playing Miami. From what I have seen, UC hasn't gotten more meda attention in Cincy for playing Miami. I just don't see the advantages of giving a close geographic non BCS neighbor the status of a home and home series.


Jackson

Doubletalk

But, Jackson, the BE is also a "different animal" from so many BCS football conferences, in that it needs to schedule five OOC games, as opposed to four (only three in the case of the PAC 10). You WVU fans amittedly have headaches over your opponents cancelling games and having to scramble to find games.

We'd love to schedule IU or UK, but neither one is in at this point. When other schools, like VT and NCSt, step up to the plate, then you can talk freely about the possibility of UC removing Miami.

And of course the Keg and River City take precedence over the Bell, but that doens't mean it'll go away.