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RE: FAU at Marshall, Oct. 25
What's your point out DB's aren't that good because of that. Dude we held you to 28 and a trash TD at the end we played you better then anyone else because the fact is we have better athletes then most C-USA schools.
Also unless your watching film from and endzone angle and you watch the game a few times you can't just break down what team is doing. Your just an arm chair QB
10-29-2014 09:40 PM
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RE: FAU at Marshall, Oct. 25
Everyone keeps talking about the last TD being "Style Points". I disagree. It was to put the game out of reach. The time on the clock when Cato hits McManus down the seem is 2:01 and up 12. If we play not to lose and just try and run out the clock who's to say F_U doesn't get the ball back on a TO and score imed. then get an onside and score again. Was it improbable, probably. Was it impossible, no. If Doc doesn't score there and that would have happened everyone and their mother would be screaming.

FAU is "NOT" good. Do you have a few good players, yes. What you are is a bad match up for Marshall. We are built to counter the spread offense in this Pass Happy CUSA. We don't have the bulk up front to just drag down RBs. But then again you was 6 for 9 on third downs in the 1st half and only 1 of 10 in the second half. We adjusted to the run by playing a hibyrd safety. Giving an extra man in the box in no time if need be or have him drop in coverage over the middle.
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RE: FAU at Marshall, Oct. 25
(10-29-2014 09:10 PM)banker Wrote:  http://youtu.be/4ZO3NJweXes

On the first run, you have 5 in the box. On the second you have 6. On the third, it's a really good illustration because you see the corner and safety, in twos, coming from the left and right to try, but fail, to run him down.

Your safeties are playing 10-12 yards off the line and wide of the hashes, just like I said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZO3NJweXes

Wrong! On the first run - Marshall is employing 4 WRs (check out 00:03). They are covered by 4 FAU DBs. One-on-one. The remaining safety and a LB are both in run support. FAU is in the nickel coverage. By the way, since the ball was snapped on one of the hashes, of course one of them is outside the hash marks.

On the second run (check at 00:11), Marshall has 3 wides, covered by 3 FAU DBs. FAU SS Daniel Parms (#17 at the top of the screen) is 3 yards from the line of scrimmage and the only player more than 5 yards off is the FS. He is 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. Again, FAU DBs are one-on-one.

The third run (00:19) - Marshall has 4 receivers out wide, they face 4 FAU DBs. In fact, both FAU safeties are in coverage, as well. SS Parms is late coming out of coverage (at the bottom of the screen). Again, FAU DBs are one-on-one.

As a bonus, on the fourth TD run (00:28), there are 3 Marshall WR lined up against 3 FAU backs, once again, one-on-one. All other FAU players are in run support.

This whole "outside of hashes" business is silly. The ball was snapped on the hash marks every time, so at least one FAU run support player is, of course, outside of the hashes. Even more so, when there are 3 or 4 Marshall wide-outs employed on the play, facing FAU backs one-on-one.

All this supports my thesis that FAU DBs, indeed, played man against Marshall WRs.
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10-30-2014 07:46 AM
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RE: FAU at Marshall, Oct. 25
(10-27-2014 07:42 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  I want you Marshall fans to enjoy this win it will one of very few against us over the next decade or so.
As long as we have a coach that's keeps kids in state the 40 players from FLA on your roster will dry up.
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A lot of kids in South Florida if they aren't recruited by the Big 3 in Florida just wants to go play somewhere out of state. I know Tommy Shuler, Darryl Roberts, Devante Allen and Craig Wilkins have all said that if the Big 3 didn't recruit them they wanted to go play out of state. Marshall is very happy about that also.

Looks like that commitment is from LB Doyle Grimes from Homestead, FL.

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(10-21-2014 11:03 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Containing Cato will just allow Johnson to rumble for 10+ yards at a time.

(this isn't smack talk, it's just what we've witnessed every game)

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FAUAEPi...okay..sorry for the "stupid" retort..but saying there's no entertainment in this area is pretty obtuse...its subjective...yes? Do you golf? Like outdoors? Theater?? Camping? Waterskiing? Clubs? I don't know..but WV is a huge tourist attraction..
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(10-30-2014 09:01 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  FAUAEPi...okay..sorry for the "stupid" retort..but saying there's no entertainment in this area is pretty obtuse...its subjective...yes? Do you golf? Like outdoors? Theater?? Camping? Waterskiing? Clubs? I don't know..but WV is a huge tourist attraction..

During the summer there is also Whitewater rafting. WV has the only level 5 rapids east of the Mississippi. Also we have 3 amphitheaters that have different plays about the state and the history around it. Also there is the New River Gorge and the New River Gorge Bridge that leads to Bridge Day which just happened.

WV attractions may not be compact and we may not have any pro sports but there is plenty to do here without leaving the state.
10-31-2014 11:11 AM
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RE: FAU at Marshall, Oct. 25
(10-30-2014 07:46 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-29-2014 09:10 PM)banker Wrote:  http://youtu.be/4ZO3NJweXes

On the first run, you have 5 in the box. On the second you have 6. On the third, it's a really good illustration because you see the corner and safety, in twos, coming from the left and right to try, but fail, to run him down.

Your safeties are playing 10-12 yards off the line and wide of the hashes, just like I said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZO3NJweXes

Wrong! On the first run - Marshall is employing 4 WRs (check out 00:03). They are covered by 4 FAU DBs. One-on-one. The remaining safety and a LB are both in run support. FAU is in the nickel coverage. By the way, since the ball was snapped on one of the hashes, of course one of them is outside the hash marks.

On the second run (check at 00:11), Marshall has 3 wides, covered by 3 FAU DBs. FAU SS Daniel Parms (#17 at the top of the screen) is 3 yards from the line of scrimmage and the only player more than 5 yards off is the FS. He is 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. Again, FAU DBs are one-on-one.

The third run (00:19) - Marshall has 4 receivers out wide, they face 4 FAU DBs. In fact, both FAU safeties are in coverage, as well. SS Parms is late coming out of coverage (at the bottom of the screen). Again, FAU DBs are one-on-one.

As a bonus, on the fourth TD run (00:28), there are 3 Marshall WR lined up against 3 FAU backs, once again, one-on-one. All other FAU players are in run support.

This whole "outside of hashes" business is silly. The ball was snapped on the hash marks every time, so at least one FAU run support player is, of course, outside of the hashes. Even more so, when there are 3 or 4 Marshall wide-outs employed on the play, facing FAU backs one-on-one.

All this supports my thesis that FAU DBs, indeed, played man against Marshall WRs.

They did most of the game. You are correct. And they did it because Cato couldn't hit the deepball. Thats good coaching by your staff. On the other hand,you still couldn't stop johnson from rumbling for almost 300 yards and his individual effort and our oline is why you lost the game.
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RE: FAU at Marshall, Oct. 25
(10-31-2014 02:16 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
(10-30-2014 07:46 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-29-2014 09:10 PM)banker Wrote:  http://youtu.be/4ZO3NJweXes

On the first run, you have 5 in the box. On the second you have 6. On the third, it's a really good illustration because you see the corner and safety, in twos, coming from the left and right to try, but fail, to run him down.

Your safeties are playing 10-12 yards off the line and wide of the hashes, just like I said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZO3NJweXes

Wrong! On the first run - Marshall is employing 4 WRs (check out 00:03). They are covered by 4 FAU DBs. One-on-one. The remaining safety and a LB are both in run support. FAU is in the nickel coverage. By the way, since the ball was snapped on one of the hashes, of course one of them is outside the hash marks.

On the second run (check at 00:11), Marshall has 3 wides, covered by 3 FAU DBs. FAU SS Daniel Parms (#17 at the top of the screen) is 3 yards from the line of scrimmage and the only player more than 5 yards off is the FS. He is 10 yards from the line of scrimmage. Again, FAU DBs are one-on-one.

The third run (00:19) - Marshall has 4 receivers out wide, they face 4 FAU DBs. In fact, both FAU safeties are in coverage, as well. SS Parms is late coming out of coverage (at the bottom of the screen). Again, FAU DBs are one-on-one.

As a bonus, on the fourth TD run (00:28), there are 3 Marshall WR lined up against 3 FAU backs, once again, one-on-one. All other FAU players are in run support.

This whole "outside of hashes" business is silly. The ball was snapped on the hash marks every time, so at least one FAU run support player is, of course, outside of the hashes. Even more so, when there are 3 or 4 Marshall wide-outs employed on the play, facing FAU backs one-on-one.

All this supports my thesis that FAU DBs, indeed, played man against Marshall WRs.

They did most of the game. You are correct. And they did it because Cato couldn't hit the deepball. Thats good coaching by your staff. On the other hand,you still couldn't stop johnson from rumbling for almost 300 yards and his individual effort and our oline is why you lost the game.

Cato missed deep because he had to place the ball where FAU's DBs weren't. Regardless, as I have predicted before the game, FAU prevented any sort of significant Marshall air threat but couldn't stop the run. I expected the yardage too, I just did not think it would be concentrated in the hands of one RB.

I deserve a pat on the back, which I am giving myself right now.
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