Should have lost? Fsu won by 15....

Alabama won by 1 over Arkansas who fumbled just before breaking the goal line for the go ahead score. I can play this game too

Point is that all can lose or win. No dominant team

(11-26-2014 06:57 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Should have lost? Fsu won by 15....

Alabama won by 1 over Arkansas who fumbled just before breaking the goal line for the go ahead score. I can play this game too

Point is that all can lose or win. No dominant team

Arkansas beat Ole miss and LSU like a drum. The ACC is weak.

Yeah those 3 and 4 loss teams are fantastic. Don't buy into the media propaganda. The sec isn't great this year either

There are no dominant teams

(11-26-2014 07:17 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Yeah those 3 and 4 loss teams are fantastic. Don't buy into the media propaganda. The sec isn't great this year either

There are no dominant teams

Like the ACC in basketball

If that was an attempted dig then have at it. I care about fsu. Can care less about the acc

(11-26-2014 07:59 PM)Ragu Wrote:  If that was an attempted dig then have at it. I care about fsu. Can care less about the acc

How much less can you care?

(11-26-2014 07:17 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Yeah those 3 and 4 loss teams are fantastic. Don't buy into the media propaganda. The sec isn't great this year either

There are no dominant teams

Anyone in the SEC west, save for aTm, plus UGA would smoke the FSU team that showed up the past two weeks.

(11-26-2014 06:15 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 03:50 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 03:41 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Buy a lottery ticket since you are sure of everything 100%. There is a reason they play the games.

And I disagree but there is no point in trying to talk rational to someone who hates them. Ohio State struggled with Minnesota, Penn State, Indiana etc and lost to Va Tech. Call me crazy but I think FSU can beat them...

FSU struggled with BC, NCSU, UVA, UL, ND, OSU, and Clemson. The only teams you convincingly beat were The Citadel, Syracuse and Wake Forest.

Clemson without Winston

Louisville at full strength with their qb. Rb dyer and wr devante Parker which hardly happened this year

Qb for ok state played vs fsu. Completely different with him

Bc was in a downpour which brings inferior talent up since it is sloppy

Nd was undefeated and number 5 when they played them. Aka before they lost hope

Uva they were up 2 scores a ton of the game. Knelt down with over a minute to go in the red zone to not run it up. They took the lead early 2nd and were in control

Nc st was undefeated when fsu played them too. Sucky start but fsu won by 15.

On top of that defending champs have everyone up to play them. And 5 teams had byes before fsu which can help make slow starts.

Considering all that matters is winning yeah I give them a shot

Osu lost to va tech. Bama lost to 3 loss ole miss. Baylor lost to wvu. Oregon lost to unranked Arizona. Tcu barely beat Kansas. All have flaws. No dominant team so yes I will give them a shot

You just rattled off excuses for 7 of FSU's 11 games. Are you serious? At some point you have to realize that FSU is the common element and they just aren't as good as you think they are.

(11-26-2014 09:53 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 07:17 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Yeah those 3 and 4 loss teams are fantastic. Don't buy into the media propaganda. The sec isn't great this year either

There are no dominant teams

Anyone in the SEC west, save for aTm, plus UGA would smoke the FSU team that showed up the past two weeks.

Well Georgia got smoked by Florida late in the season. So if fsu wins that will shut you up quick. Lsu can't even complete passes downfield. Ole miss just got shutout by 30. Yeah I think fsu can compete

And those aren't excuses. They are facts and teams are different depending on key player injuries

Uva was garbage to bring up as fsu w as up 2 scores and controlling the game. And nc st they won by fricken 15! Again facts

wow, a Seminole/owl, I thought the only happened at ucf

(11-27-2014 09:12 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  wow, a Seminole/owl, I thought the only happened at ucf

If you are raised in the fsu vs uf rivalry with tons of family connections since birth you don't just drop them. Circumstances prevented me from going there but I'll still pull for them and now fau too

(11-27-2014 08:09 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 09:53 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 07:17 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Yeah those 3 and 4 loss teams are fantastic. Don't buy into the media propaganda. The sec isn't great this year either

There are no dominant teams

Anyone in the SEC west, save for aTm, plus UGA would smoke the FSU team that showed up the past two weeks.

Well Georgia got smoked by Florida late in the season. So if fsu wins that will shut you up quick. Lsu can't even complete passes downfield. Ole miss just got shutout by 30. Yeah I think fsu can compete

And those aren't excuses. They are facts and teams are different depending on key player injuries

Uva was garbage to bring up as fsu w as up 2 scores and controlling the game. And nc st they won by fricken 15! Again facts

Kind of like how Missouri beat Florida, so they must have smoked UGA too, right?

And I didn't bring up UVA.

And by the way, some of your "facts" are speculative at best.

(11-27-2014 11:42 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-27-2014 08:09 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 09:53 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 07:17 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Yeah those 3 and 4 loss teams are fantastic. Don't buy into the media propaganda. The sec isn't great this year either

There are no dominant teams

Anyone in the SEC west, save for aTm, plus UGA would smoke the FSU team that showed up the past two weeks.

Well Georgia got smoked by Florida late in the season. So if fsu wins that will shut you up quick. Lsu can't even complete passes downfield. Ole miss just got shutout by 30. Yeah I think fsu can compete

And those aren't excuses. They are facts and teams are different depending on key player injuries

Uva was garbage to bring up as fsu w as up 2 scores and controlling the game. And nc st they won by fricken 15! Again facts

Kind of like how Missouri beat Florida, so they must have smoked UGA too, right?

And I didn't bring up UVA.

And by the way, some of your "facts" are speculative at best.

Tell me ones that aren't facts

(11-27-2014 11:49 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(11-27-2014 11:42 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-27-2014 08:09 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 09:53 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-26-2014 07:17 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Yeah those 3 and 4 loss teams are fantastic. Don't buy into the media propaganda. The sec isn't great this year either

There are no dominant teams

Anyone in the SEC west, save for aTm, plus UGA would smoke the FSU team that showed up the past two weeks.

Well Georgia got smoked by Florida late in the season. So if fsu wins that will shut you up quick. Lsu can't even complete passes downfield. Ole miss just got shutout by 30. Yeah I think fsu can compete

And those aren't excuses. They are facts and teams are different depending on key player injuries

Uva was garbage to bring up as fsu w as up 2 scores and controlling the game. And nc st they won by fricken 15! Again facts

Kind of like how Missouri beat Florida, so they must have smoked UGA too, right?

And I didn't bring up UVA.

And by the way, some of your "facts" are speculative at best.

Tell me ones that aren't facts

ND has "lost hope"

Downpour "brings inferior talent up"

Those two aren't anything remotely resembling "facts".

The talk of Ok State's QB and Louisville's health aren't exactly indisputable either.

The thing is, if you put any one(maybe even two) of those in a vacuum, I might agree with you, if FSU had beat everyone by three to four touchdowns and only had one or two games to explain, but you're having to explain the margin in more games than you're not.

Are you familiar with the concept of Occam's razor?

Louisville is no dispute. Parker might be the best wr in the nation. They are different with 3 skill guys healthy

Ok st isn't a dispute. Losing your starting qb changes your team

Did you even see the fsu vs bc game? A downpour definitely helps an inferior team stay around. It makes the game sloppy and ugly

No one can dispute that nd played their best game of the year vs fsu and that golson hasn't been the same qb late in the year.

Bottom line is fsu can play with the contenders who all have struggled in games and get this LOST at least one of them!

Object of the game is to win last time I checked. Let the ESPN propaganda machine convince you that losing impressive is better than winning ugly

And I'll take contending over being loved by fans. I'm not going to let the haters ruin the streak. In fact I embrace it. The team on top is usually hated.

(11-27-2014 01:43 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Louisville is no dispute. Parker might be the best wr in the nation. They are different with 3 skill guys healthy

Ok st isn't a dispute. Losing your starting qb changes your team

Did you even see the fsu vs bc game? A downpour definitely helps an inferior team stay around. It makes the game sloppy and ugly

No one can dispute that nd played their best game of the year vs fsu and that golson hasn't been the same qb late in the year.

Bottom line is fsu can play with the contenders who all have struggled in games and get this LOST at least one of them!

Object of the game is to win last time I checked. Let the ESPN propaganda machine convince you that losing impressive is better than winning ugly

And I'll take contending over being loved by fans. I'm not going to let the haters ruin the streak. In fact I embrace it. The team on top is usually hated.

There's that hate term again.

Rain can absolutely change a game, but you cannot pass it off as indisputable fact that rain is some great equalizer.

Occam's razor-the simplest explanation is usually the right one.

What's a more simple explanation? The rain vs BC, and the injuries for Louisville and Ok St, and ND has lost hope.

Or

FSU isn't as good as you seem to think.

You know what is undisputed? Defending national champions and undefeated. Maybe they are better than the media and unknowledgeable fans claim them to be

And to ignore key injuries is just ridiculous. Teams aren't the same calibre all season long

There aren't any dominant teams. Fsu could lose or could win it all. Rather be in it than be an also ran Sec team that ESPN overrates while they are out of it

Ps if Alabama were on a 27 game winning streak as national champs ESPN would be on their knees for them. They change the narrative depending on sec or non sec and dumb fans buy it. If it were bama the mantra would be just win and champs til they are beaten

(11-27-2014 02:02 PM)Ragu Wrote:  You know what is undisputed? Defending national champions and undefeated. Maybe they are better than the media and unknowledgeable fans claim them to be

And to ignore key injuries is just ridiculous. Teams aren't the same calibre all season long

There aren't any dominant teams. Fsu could lose or could win it all. Rather be in it than be an also ran Sec team that ESPN overrates while they are out of it

Ps if Alabama were on a 27 game winning streak as national champs ESPN would be on their knees for them. They change the narrative depending on sec or non sec and dumb fans buy it. If it were bama the mantra would be just win and champs til they are beaten

What am I "unknowledgeable" about?

And 27 consecutive wins would mean a lot more in the SEC.

Not the sec east which fsu would have easily won in this span. Fsu would have competed vs anyone last year. They proved that beating auburn in the title game and also florida from the sec

The sec gets overinflated rankings to start the year and then the bias just allows teams to swap spots the rest of the year. And they get the benefit of the doubt even while largely mediocre as they are this year

(11-27-2014 09:22 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(11-27-2014 09:12 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  wow, a Seminole/owl, I thought the only happened at ucf

If you are raised in the fsu vs uf rivalry with tons of family connections since birth you don't just drop them. Circumstances prevented me from going there but I'll still pull for them and now fau too

that is pretty sad