If the Big 8 had survived, I could have seen them taking Louisville and Cincinnati to get to 10.

It may have also been just as likely that BYU and Utah could have been lured from the WAC, which would have made the Big 8+2 the second western power conference. A surviving Big 8 would have made life difficult for the SWC - either the SWC goes out of the footprint with a program like South Carolina, Florida State, or Louisville, or the SWC has to try to lure two teams from the SEC.

For the Power 7:

Pac 10 - no Colorado/Utah
Big 8 - add Colorado/BYU
ACC - no BC/VT/Pitt/Syr
SEC - no Ark/SC/MO/A&M
Big 10 - no RU/MD/PSU/Neb

Big East - BC, VT, Pitt, Syr, Penn St, Conn, Rut, Lou, S Carolina, WV

SWC - Texas, TAMU, Tex Tech, Arkansas, Baylor, TCU, SMU, Rice, Houston, USF

Then the Group of 5:

WAC - SDSU, UTEP, Hawaii, Fresno State, Nevada, UNLV, CSU, AFA, Wyoming, New Mexico

Big West - Idaho, Boise State, SJSU, NMSU, USU, Texas State, UTSA, North Texas, Tulsa, Arkansas St

MAC - no Buffalo/UMass/NIU

SBC - USA, Troy, Ga State, FAU, FIU, Louisiana, ULM, WKU, MTSU, Charlotte

C-USA - Marshall, ECU, Cinci, Memphis, UAB, So Miss, Tulane, UCF, NIU, Temple

Independents - Army, Navy, Notre Dame

Left behind - Georgia State, Georgia Southern, App State, Old Dominion, Charlotte, UMass

Buffalo would be next in line to replace UAB as it was the only program to start or restart at the FBS level prior to the 2007-2011 moratorium.

The five remaining programs would likely be trying to coax at least two of James Madison, Delaware, Towson, Stony Brook, and Villanova to move up to form an FBS CAA.

This is a larger reset than the original request stipulated, but my "semi-perfect world" 10 team conference setup would look like this. It creates an Eastern conference that's somewhat logical, resets several traditional leagues , and slightly rearranges a few others but keeps some competitive balance going as well. I know there's no way that some fans would want to go back to an alignment like this, but since I'm not King nobody has to worry about it happening for real in any case.

Eastern:
Boston College
Cincinnati
UConn
Louisville
Penn State
Pitt
Rutgers
Syracuse
Temple
West Virginia

ACC:
Clemson
Duke
Georgia Tech
Maryland
Miami (FL)
North Carolina
NC State
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest

SEC:
Alabama
Auburn
Central Florida
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Mississippi
Tennessee
Vanderbilt


Big 10:
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Ohio State
Purdue
Wisconsin

Big 12:
Colorado
Houston
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Nebraska
Oklahoma
TCU
Texas

SWC:
Arkansas
Baylor
Florida State
LSU
Memphis
Mississippi State
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
UTEP


Pac 10:
Arizona
Arizona State
California
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Washington
Washington State


Mountain West:
Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
Fresno State
Hawaii
New Mexico
San Diego State
UNLV
Utah
Wyoming


Southern:
Alabama-Birmingham
East Carolina
Marshall
Louisiana Tech
Rice
SMU
South Florida
Southern Miss
Tulane
Tulsa

MAC:
Akron
Ball State
Bowling Green
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Kent State
Miami (OH)
Northern Illinois
Ohio
Western Michigan


Independent:
Army
BYU
Navy
Notre Dame

(12-20-2014 11:56 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm looking for a little feedback for a custom setup on NCAA Football on the Xbox.

In this particular premise, the NCAA capped conference at 10 members at some point in the past.

This part I'm comfortable with:

ACC
Clemson - Duke - Florida State - Georgia Tech - Maryland - NC State - North Carolina - South Carolina - Virginia - Wake Forest
I started with the 1990's version and added South Carolina, who was a member from 1953-71 and could not have been added to the SEC if they were capped at 10.

Big East
Boston College - Connecticut - U Miami - Penn State - Pittsburgh - Rutgers - Syracuse - Temple - Virginia Tech - West Virginia
This is the classic 8-team Big East football conference with the addition of UConn and Penn State, who needed a home with the Big 10 capped at 10.

Big Ten
Illinois - Indiana - Iowa - Michigan - Michigan State - Minnesota - Northwestern - Ohio State - Purdue - Wisconsin
The Big Ten as it was from 1950-89.

Pac-10
Arizona - Arizona State - California - Oregon - Oregon State - Stanford - UCLA - USC - Washington - Washington State
The Pac-10 as it was from 1978-2010.

SEC
Alabama - Auburn - Florida - Georgia - Kentucky - LSU - Mississippi State - Ole Miss - Tennessee - Vanderbilt
The SEC as it was from 1967-90.

MAC
Ball State - Bowling Green - Central Michigan - Eastern Michigan - Kent State - Miami U - Northern Illinois - Ohio - Toledo - Western Michigan
I kicked the newest members out of the MAC. NIU got in over Akron because their original membership 1975-86 predated Akron's (joined 1992).

That's pretty obvious, so no problems there. However, I'd like some feedback for what I should do when it comes to the Big 8 growing to 10. I'm using NCAA 14 which has more conferences (the WAC isn't dead yet) so...

OPTION 1 - KEEP THE SWC TOGETHER

If I go this route, I'll need to add two schools to the Big 8 and one to the SWC. It will also have affect a few other conferences (C-USA loses Houston, WAC loses Rice, SMU, MWC loses TCU).

Big 8
Colorado - Iowa State - Kansas - Kansas State - Missouri - Nebraska - Oklahoma - Oklahoma State

Southwest - (would use Sun Belt Conference in game)
Arkansas - Baylor - Houston - Rice - SMU - Texas - Texas A&M - TCU - Texas Tech

Who would be the logical choices to fill out the Big 8 (need 2) and SWC (need 1)? I have the following schools available to choose from in game (just listing schools relatively close to the footprint of these two conferences):

Air Force - Arkansas State - Boise State - BYU - Cincinnati - Colorado State - Idaho - Louisiana Tech - Louisville - Memphis - MTSU - Nevada - New Mexico - New Mexico State - North Texas - Notre Dame - Southern Miss - Texas State - Tulane - Tulsa - ULL - ULM - UNLV - Utah - Utah State - UTEP - UTSA - Western Kentucky - Wyoming

OPTION 2 - TEXAS & TEXAS A&M JOIN BIG 8, SWC FOLDS

This gives me a clean Big 8, but would leave Arkansas, Baylor and Texas Tech homeless and either playing as independents or in conferences they have never had real-life ties to.

Big 8
Colorado - Iowa State - Kansas - Kansas State - Missouri - Nebraska - Oklahoma - Oklahoma State - Texas - Texas A&M

I guess there could be a 3rd option - "Texas and Texas A&M join Big 8 and SWC reloads, but that would probably negatively affect too many other conferences, so I don't think I'll go that route.

I'll pause here until I decide to go with or without the SWC... then I'll look for more feedback filling out the remaining conferences.

Adding Tulane was actually voted on by the SWC after Arkansas announced they were departing. Their commissioner brought up Louisville and Memphis as replacements after Tulane was voted down. Tulsa and North Texas always wanted in, but the conference was never interested.

I think Tulane is the obvious number 10 for the SWC because they got as far as a vote. For the Big 8, I would look at a combo of either BYU & Utah or Louisville & Memphis.

(12-20-2014 11:56 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm looking for a little feedback for a custom setup on NCAA Football on the Xbox.

In this particular premise, the NCAA capped conference at 10 members at some point in the past.

This part I'm comfortable with:

ACC
Clemson - Duke - Florida State - Georgia Tech - Maryland - NC State - North Carolina - South Carolina - Virginia - Wake Forest
I started with the 1990's version and added South Carolina, who was a member from 1953-71 and could not have been added to the SEC if they were capped at 10.

Big East
Boston College - Connecticut - U Miami - Penn State - Pittsburgh - Rutgers - Syracuse - Temple - Virginia Tech - West Virginia
This is the classic 8-team Big East football conference with the addition of UConn and Penn State, who needed a home with the Big 10 capped at 10.

Big Ten
Illinois - Indiana - Iowa - Michigan - Michigan State - Minnesota - Northwestern - Ohio State - Purdue - Wisconsin
The Big Ten as it was from 1950-89.

Pac-10
Arizona - Arizona State - California - Oregon - Oregon State - Stanford - UCLA - USC - Washington - Washington State
The Pac-10 as it was from 1978-2010.

SEC
Alabama - Auburn - Florida - Georgia - Kentucky - LSU - Mississippi State - Ole Miss - Tennessee - Vanderbilt
The SEC as it was from 1967-90.

MAC
Ball State - Bowling Green - Central Michigan - Eastern Michigan - Kent State - Miami U - Northern Illinois - Ohio - Toledo - Western Michigan
I kicked the newest members out of the MAC. NIU got in over Akron because their original membership 1975-86 predated Akron's (joined 1992).

That's pretty obvious, so no problems there. However, I'd like some feedback for what I should do when it comes to the Big 8 growing to 10. I'm using NCAA 14 which has more conferences (the WAC isn't dead yet) so...

OPTION 1 - KEEP THE SWC TOGETHER

If I go this route, I'll need to add two schools to the Big 8 and one to the SWC. It will also have affect a few other conferences (C-USA loses Houston, WAC loses Rice, SMU, MWC loses TCU).

Big 8
Colorado - Iowa State - Kansas - Kansas State - Missouri - Nebraska - Oklahoma - Oklahoma State

Southwest - (would use Sun Belt Conference in game)
Arkansas - Baylor - Houston - Rice - SMU - Texas - Texas A&M - TCU - Texas Tech

Who would be the logical choices to fill out the Big 8 (need 2) and SWC (need 1)? I have the following schools available to choose from in game (just listing schools relatively close to the footprint of these two conferences):

Air Force - Arkansas State - Boise State - BYU - Cincinnati - Colorado State - Idaho - Louisiana Tech - Louisville - Memphis - MTSU - Nevada - New Mexico - New Mexico State - North Texas - Notre Dame - Southern Miss - Texas State - Tulane - Tulsa - ULL - ULM - UNLV - Utah - Utah State - UTEP - UTSA - Western Kentucky - Wyoming

OPTION 2 - TEXAS & TEXAS A&M JOIN BIG 8, SWC FOLDS

This gives me a clean Big 8, but would leave Arkansas, Baylor and Texas Tech homeless and either playing as independents or in conferences they have never had real-life ties to.

Big 8
Colorado - Iowa State - Kansas - Kansas State - Missouri - Nebraska - Oklahoma - Oklahoma State - Texas - Texas A&M

I guess there could be a 3rd option - "Texas and Texas A&M join Big 8 and SWC reloads, but that would probably negatively affect too many other conferences, so I don't think I'll go that route.

I'll pause here until I decide to go with or without the SWC... then I'll look for more feedback filling out the remaining conferences.

Just say for some trivia that not many realize. 6 of the 10 of the Big East teams were in A10 and additionally UConn was in A10 football.

UCONN was never an eastern indie, so their inclusion in the eastern league would be extremely unpopular among the group of schools. No one wants UCONN football. They would never be a part of that group anyways if history would have been different and the a 10 team eastern conference would have developed in the 70s to early 80s.

(12-20-2014 11:56 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm looking for a little feedback for a custom setup on NCAA Football on the Xbox.

In this particular premise, the NCAA capped conference at 10 members at some point in the past.

This part I'm comfortable with:

ACC
Clemson - Duke - Florida State - Georgia Tech - Maryland - NC State - North Carolina - South Carolina - Virginia - Wake Forest
I started with the 1990's version and added South Carolina, who was a member from 1953-71 and could not have been added to the SEC if they were capped at 10.

Big East
Boston College - Connecticut - U Miami - Penn State - Pittsburgh - Rutgers - Syracuse - Temple - Virginia Tech - West Virginia
This is the classic 8-team Big East football conference with the addition of UConn and Penn State, who needed a home with the Big 10 capped at 10.

Big Ten
Illinois - Indiana - Iowa - Michigan - Michigan State - Minnesota - Northwestern - Ohio State - Purdue - Wisconsin
The Big Ten as it was from 1950-89.

Pac-10
Arizona - Arizona State - California - Oregon - Oregon State - Stanford - UCLA - USC - Washington - Washington State
The Pac-10 as it was from 1978-2010.

SEC
Alabama - Auburn - Florida - Georgia - Kentucky - LSU - Mississippi State - Ole Miss - Tennessee - Vanderbilt
The SEC as it was from 1967-90.

MAC
Ball State - Bowling Green - Central Michigan - Eastern Michigan - Kent State - Miami U - Northern Illinois - Ohio - Toledo - Western Michigan
I kicked the newest members out of the MAC. NIU got in over Akron because their original membership 1975-86 predated Akron's (joined 1992).

That's pretty obvious, so no problems there. However, I'd like some feedback for what I should do when it comes to the Big 8 growing to 10. I'm using NCAA 14 which has more conferences (the WAC isn't dead yet) so...

OPTION 1 - KEEP THE SWC TOGETHER

If I go this route, I'll need to add two schools to the Big 8 and one to the SWC. It will also have affect a few other conferences (C-USA loses Houston, WAC loses Rice, SMU, MWC loses TCU).

Big 8
Colorado - Iowa State - Kansas - Kansas State - Missouri - Nebraska - Oklahoma - Oklahoma State

Southwest - (would use Sun Belt Conference in game)
Arkansas - Baylor - Houston - Rice - SMU - Texas - Texas A&M - TCU - Texas Tech

Who would be the logical choices to fill out the Big 8 (need 2) and SWC (need 1)? I have the following schools available to choose from in game (just listing schools relatively close to the footprint of these two conferences):

Air Force - Arkansas State - Boise State - BYU - Cincinnati - Colorado State - Idaho - Louisiana Tech - Louisville - Memphis - MTSU - Nevada - New Mexico - New Mexico State - North Texas - Notre Dame - Southern Miss - Texas State - Tulane - Tulsa - ULL - ULM - UNLV - Utah - Utah State - UTEP - UTSA - Western Kentucky - Wyoming

OPTION 2 - TEXAS & TEXAS A&M JOIN BIG 8, SWC FOLDS

This gives me a clean Big 8, but would leave Arkansas, Baylor and Texas Tech homeless and either playing as independents or in conferences they have never had real-life ties to.

Big 8
Colorado - Iowa State - Kansas - Kansas State - Missouri - Nebraska - Oklahoma - Oklahoma State - Texas - Texas A&M

I guess there could be a 3rd option - "Texas and Texas A&M join Big 8 and SWC reloads, but that would probably negatively affect too many other conferences, so I don't think I'll go that route.

I'll pause here until I decide to go with or without the SWC... then I'll look for more feedback filling out the remaining conferences.

If you want it just like it was in those days take Florida state out of the acc. They joined at the same time arky and south car joined the sec. Also they were in the metro along with so carolina.

Thanks for the feedback, guys.

I decided to go with Tulane as the 10th SWC member... Evens the conference out with 5 private and 5 public schools.

As for the Big 8, I like esayem's suggestion of BYU/Utah. It's a border state and they have 2 of the larger fan bases available, plus in this fictional world rivalries are more important than new TV markets so it works.

So....

That gives me...

Southwest Conference
Arkansas - Baylor - Houston - Rice - SMU - TCU - Texas - Texas A&M - Texas Tech - Tulane

Big 8
BYU - Colorado - Iowa State - Kansas - Kansas State - Missouri - Nebraska - Oklahoma - Oklahoma State - Utah

So, the next step is filling in C-USA, the MW and the WAC, starting with longest tenured members.

C-USA
Army - Cincinnati - East Carolina - Louisville - Marshall - Memphis - South Florida - Southern Miss - UAB - UCF
I'm considering replacing UAB in-game with ODU, but I'm not sure yet.

Mountain West
Air Force - Boise State - Colorado State - Fresno State - Hawaii - Nevada - New Mexico - San Diego State - UNLV - Wyoming

WAC - it still exists! (as a football conference)
Idaho - Louisiana Tech - New Mexico State - San Jose State - Texas State - Tulsa - Utah State - UTEP - UTSA

My WAC is one member short... here are the teams left in the independent pool:

Akron - Arkansas State - Buffalo - FAU - FIU - UMass - MTSU - Navy - North Texas - Notre Dame - South Alabama - Troy - ULL - ULM - Western Kentucky

I'm thinking about either Arkansas State, North Texas or ULL as the final WAC school... thoughts?

(12-22-2014 10:44 PM)miko33 Wrote:  UCONN was never an eastern indie, so their inclusion in the eastern league would be extremely unpopular among the group of schools. No one wants UCONN football. They would never be a part of that group anyways if history would have been different and the a 10 team eastern conference would have developed in the 70s to early 80s.

LOL I'm sure Pitt was undefeated against UConn in the Big East days

(12-20-2014 12:26 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  METRO / C-USA
Cincinnati
East Carolina
Memphis
UCF
South Florida
Southern Miss
Louisville
UAB
Louisiana
Marshall

Hell no.