(01-08-2015 11:00 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  The little jerk ruined this program. This is going to take a decade to turn this thing around.

No, it won't. Find the right guy and it can be turned around in three to four years.

(01-08-2015 10:56 PM)TigerBabbler Wrote:  Damon Stoudamire....Archie Miller.... $2.65 Million...local recruiting base...18K gym...don't believe Wolken! Please....

Agree and seriously we don't need buzz we don't need Marshall. If we found Fuente to lead our football team we can find a legit coach to replace Pastner

To many people I can't - you can't blah blah blah. You know what we can!

(01-08-2015 10:55 PM)450bench Wrote:  If people other than us goons are talking about a candidate pool, then you can bet there's serious talk.

Yeah, that might be true. When the public writers are starting to talk names, the seat is no longer hot, but in flames...

(01-08-2015 10:57 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

If at Marquette, no. But at VT? I'm inclined to believe you.

(01-08-2015 10:59 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  I actually like Ron Hunter (and his son) a lot. He's one of those guys I've been referring to - handcuffed by current situation, w]could thrive with a big program behind him. Same goes for Mike White. Neither would be bad hires.

I say no on Stoudemire, even though I like him...can't afford to go that route again. Not at Memphis!

If Buzz, Pearl, Martin all decline (along w the big names like Shaka and Marshall) Wolken could be right. Wouldn't be the end of the world, but what Stammers, myself, and others have been saying would be a reality...no wow hires!

A wow hire is a great coach who wins games, not one who is a wow name. If it comes to replacing Pastner (sigh), Buzz would be a great call, and I would call Shaka (no) and possibly Marshall (no).

I'd call Avery Johnson (likely no), and I'd call Pearl (?).

But if not, Mike White, Damon, and Ron Hunter would all be worthy names.

It is what it is.

(01-08-2015 10:53 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  John Martin ‏@JohnMartin929 · 8m8 minutes ago
@geoff_calkins What's overinflated is that there are people who believe firing Pastner will result in Gregg Marshall or Buzz.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 7m7 minutes ago
@JohnMartin929 @geoff_calkins Mike White, Ron Hunter or Damon Stoudamire. There’s your candidate pool.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 26m26 minutes ago
But I’ll say this to Memphis fans: If/when there is a change, the replacement possibilities will not be what you hope they will be.

I hope he's wrong, but he is probably dead on. Depressing.

(01-08-2015 11:01 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  damn, this thread is depressing.

Yep. Football school?

(01-08-2015 10:55 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  I think Buzz listens. This is a better job that VT and I remember hearing it was friction that got him to leave Marquette. Don't see Gregg Marshall or Shaka coming...

I think best case is Archie Miller might listen. Otherwise Wolken might be close. But that is not a terrible list BTW.

Let's hope Pastner figures this out and makes the point moot.

F Wolken. Never liked that pompous prick anyway

(01-08-2015 11:01 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 10:53 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  John Martin ‏@JohnMartin929 · 8m8 minutes ago
@geoff_calkins What's overinflated is that there are people who believe firing Pastner will result in Gregg Marshall or Buzz.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 7m7 minutes ago
@JohnMartin929 @geoff_calkins Mike White, Ron Hunter or Damon Stoudamire. There’s your candidate pool.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 26m26 minutes ago
But I’ll say this to Memphis fans: If/when there is a change, the replacement possibilities will not be what you hope they will be.

Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

A lot of BFS here.

No, he wouldn't. Plus, we could find better for cheaper. Use your head,

(01-08-2015 11:01 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Bobby Hurley would take this job in a second....Bobby Hurley should be our First option....The World Is Ours Memphis....

I hate that little munchkin

(01-08-2015 11:07 PM)paramedicrntiger Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:01 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Bobby Hurley would take this job in a second....Bobby Hurley should be our First option....The World Is Ours Memphis....

I hate that little munchkin

Hurley is awesome, was in Blue Chips with Penny and Shaq.

Wolken is full of **** and yanking y'all's chain or he's a moron.

(01-08-2015 11:06 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:01 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 10:53 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  John Martin ‏@JohnMartin929 · 8m8 minutes ago
@geoff_calkins What's overinflated is that there are people who believe firing Pastner will result in Gregg Marshall or Buzz.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 7m7 minutes ago
@JohnMartin929 @geoff_calkins Mike White, Ron Hunter or Damon Stoudamire. There’s your candidate pool.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 26m26 minutes ago
But I’ll say this to Memphis fans: If/when there is a change, the replacement possibilities will not be what you hope they will be.

Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

A lot of BFS here.

No, he wouldn't. Plus, we could find better for cheaper. Use your head,

I think Buzz would listen, but if you have better for cheaper, I'm listening. Who you thinking?

(01-08-2015 11:08 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:07 PM)paramedicrntiger Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:01 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Bobby Hurley would take this job in a second....Bobby Hurley should be our First option....The World Is Ours Memphis....

I hate that little munchkin

Hurley is awesome, was in Blue Chips with Penny and Shaq.

Thought it w's kid that played for Indiana

(01-08-2015 11:07 PM)paramedicrntiger Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:01 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Bobby Hurley would take this job in a second....Bobby Hurley should be our First option....The World Is Ours Memphis....

I hate that little munchkin

And a lot of teams we play will as well. We shouldn't go for a wow name. We need a winner like Fuente, Period

How fast did Larry Brown turn SMU around?

Plenty of coaches would be interested. Parrish has said that Marshall would listen to an offer.

Wolken and the other clowns are going off of what happened during our last search. It was hard to hire a coach when we had to tell him the looming trouble with the NCAA. Coaches will shy away from that. Plus who wanted to follow Cal?

(01-08-2015 10:58 PM)tigers1985 Wrote:  The hits to my psyche keep on coming tonight. Whatever. Someday there will be another Keith Lee equivalent. I may have to wait a couple decades. (I don't ever expect to see another Penny on my lifetime.) But I will be here when it happens. We will see another final four one day.

I'm 63, maybe if I start jogging and working out . . . . .

(01-08-2015 11:09 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  Wolken is full of **** and yanking y'all's chain or he's a moron.

He's an idiot. With the money and facilities on tap here we can do way better.

(01-08-2015 11:09 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:08 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:07 PM)paramedicrntiger Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:01 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Bobby Hurley would take this job in a second....Bobby Hurley should be our First option....The World Is Ours Memphis....

I hate that little munchkin

Hurley is awesome, was in Blue Chips with Penny and Shaq.

Thought it w's kid that played for Indiana

Was totally Bobby Hurley playing himself, If I recall.

(01-08-2015 11:04 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 10:55 PM)450bench Wrote:  If people other than us goons are talking about a candidate pool, then you can bet there's serious talk.

Yeah, that might be true. When the public writers are starting to talk names, the seat is no longer hot, but in flames...

(01-08-2015 10:57 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

If at Marquette, no. But at VT? I'm inclined to believe you.

(01-08-2015 10:59 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  I actually like Ron Hunter (and his son) a lot. He's one of those guys I've been referring to - handcuffed by current situation, w]could thrive with a big program behind him. Same goes for Mike White. Neither would be bad hires.

I say no on Stoudemire, even though I like him...can't afford to go that route again. Not at Memphis!

If Buzz, Pearl, Martin all decline (along w the big names like Shaka and Marshall) Wolken could be right. Wouldn't be the end of the world, but what Stammers, myself, and others have been saying would be a reality...no wow hires!

A wow hire is a great coach who wins games, not one who is a wow name. If it comes to replacing Pastner (sigh), Buzz would be a great call, and I would call Shaka (no) and possibly Marshall (no).

I'd call Avery Johnson (likely no), and I'd call Pearl (?).

But if not, Mike White, Damon, and Ron Hunter would all be worthy names.

It is what it is.

Ron Hunter
- 20 years as a head coach
- ONE NCAA tournament game
- Best job, Georgia State

Mike White
- 4 years as a head coach
- ZERO NCAA tournament games
- Best job, Louisiana Tech

Damon Stoudamire
- ZERO years as a head coach

The miserables who say we are a top 15 program that can attract a great coach, where anyone can win, are going to get a very sobering does of reality.

(01-08-2015 11:13 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(01-08-2015 11:09 PM)tigerderek Wrote:  Wolken is full of **** and yanking y'all's chain or he's a moron.

He's an idiot. With the money and facilities on tap here we can do way better.

Will there be big money for Pastner's replacement if we're paying the balance of his contract out? Plus paying Fuente's next extension?

The money is there, but this might be a 'dead money cap' situation... like in the NFL?

Not disagreeing, I think we'll have lots of options if need be, but there are indicators it might be an issue...