Hey libs, here you go. The smartest man in the room, the planet, the galaxy just said being gay is a choice. There was no teleprompter to tell him what to say so I can only imagine these are his real thoughts.

Quote:President Barack Obama’s gay allies are ignoring his endorsement of the long-standing claim that sexual orientation is a matter of choice.

“I think people know that treating folks unfairly, even if you disagree with their lifestyle choice… Let them live their lives and under the law they should be treated equally,” he said 25 minutes into his Wednesday interview with GloZell Green, a YouTube personality.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/23/obama-...le-choice/

It is a choice or an admission of failing in real normal life.

Good thing for the sodomites in this country were not born/live in Russia. The wouldn't be able to operate a motor vehicle due to their mental illness.

This is where I disagree with conservatives. It may be the only issue where I disagree with conservatives.

I've always been attracted to girls, and then to women when I became an adult. I was never attracted to men.

At no point did I "choose" to exclusively want women. It's just how I'm wired.

Congrats... you are a normal man!

Obama himself is a prime example of it being a choice. For all the gay trysts he has had, he still managed to choose a traditional family.

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(01-24-2015 01:47 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This is where I disagree with conservatives. It may be the only issue where I disagree with conservatives.

I've always been attracted to girls, and then to women when I became an adult. I was never attracted to men.

At no point did I "choose" to exclusively want women. It's just how I'm wired.

Being normal doesn't usually capture much attention. it's kind of like how your arms grew to a certain point and stopped before they reached the floor. That they don't reach the floor is something no one notices, but if they did....well...the left would want us to consider that normal.

(01-24-2015 02:28 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 01:47 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This is where I disagree with conservatives. It may be the only issue where I disagree with conservatives.

I've always been attracted to girls, and then to women when I became an adult. I was never attracted to men.

At no point did I "choose" to exclusively want women. It's just how I'm wired.

Being normal doesn't usually capture much attention. it's kind of like how your arms grew to a certain point and stopped before they reached the floor. That they don't reach the floor is something no one notices, but if they did....well...the left would want us to consider that normal.

I had to buy skates for my hands. My knuckles were dragging on the sidewalk and giving me a nasty hurt. But I'm normal.

Of course it's a choice. Men and women were created with distinct genders and body parts to procreate and diversify the gene pool for survival of the species. Homosexual behavior does nothing to advance this natural law. I don't believe anyone is born "naturally" gay no more than someone is born for porn addiction. The changing of societal norms and values and the growing acceptance of homosexual lifestyles is making the choice for that behavior much easier and much more prevalent.

I am not ready to say that all gayness is not genetic in nature and is simply a choice. We all pretty much remember the "sissy" boys growing up. Most of them never made a choice to be attracted to women later. It was just how they always were from a very young age. Im sure that there have been men that made a cognitive choice to be gay..but..I doubt that number is very definable. Most seemed gay from the get-go IMO.

(01-24-2015 11:55 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  Hey libs, here you go. The smartest man in the room, the planet, the galaxy just said being gay is a choice. There was no teleprompter to tell him what to say so I can only imagine these are his real thoughts.

Quote:President Barack Obama’s gay allies are ignoring his endorsement of the long-standing claim that sexual orientation is a matter of choice.

“I think people know that treating folks unfairly, even if you disagree with their lifestyle choice… Let them live their lives and under the law they should be treated equally,” he said 25 minutes into his Wednesday interview with GloZell Green, a YouTube personality.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/23/obama-...le-choice/

Probably reading too much into the word choice here. Meaning that Obama likely doesn't mean it in a sense of... "Hmm, I've come up to a crossroads where I need to decide whether I want to sleep with men or women or both, let me weigh the pros and cons and make my final decision."

He should've replaced "choice" with "path" or just ended the sentence after "lifestyle."

(01-24-2015 03:00 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I am not ready to say that all gayness is not genetic in nature and is simply a choice. We all pretty much remember the "sissy" boys growing up. Most of them never made a choice to be attracted to women later. It was just how they always were from a very young age. Im sure that there have been men that made a cognitive choice to be gay..but..I doubt that number is very definable. Most seemed gay from the get-go IMO.

There is something to be said for the level of masculinity in boys. Across the spectrum of all males you are going to have some that are more masculine than others. I don't have any real data to go on but I would assume that not every "sissy" boy ended up gay. Across my lifetime I have encountered "effeminate" men who are happily married with children.

I don't believe the "choice" happens like turning a switch on or off. It happens over time due to the social environments and other factors that persons are exposed to.

Even while gays argue it's not a choice, they are out trying to convert young boys.

(01-24-2015 03:25 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Even while gays argue it's not a choice, they are out trying to convert young boys.

Good one. Wonder why nobody picked up on that before.

(01-24-2015 03:19 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 03:00 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I am not ready to say that all gayness is not genetic in nature and is simply a choice. We all pretty much remember the "sissy" boys growing up. Most of them never made a choice to be attracted to women later. It was just how they always were from a very young age. Im sure that there have been men that made a cognitive choice to be gay..but..I doubt that number is very definable. Most seemed gay from the get-go IMO.

There is something to be said for the level of masculinity in boys. Across the spectrum of all males you are going to have some that are more masculine than others. I don't have any real data to go on but I would assume that not every "sissy" boy ended up gay. Across my lifetime I have encountered "effeminate" men who are happily married with children.

I don't believe the "choice" happens like turning a switch on or off. It happens over time due to the social environments and other factors that persons are exposed to.

Ive seen some of both. Id say Ive seen fewer sissies become married men..but..I have nothing to back up any assertion. My mom taught primary schoolers for 30 years. She has said many times that she could pick out the boys in the school that were likely to become full blown gaymen with very good accuracy.

(01-24-2015 05:12 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 03:19 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 03:00 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I am not ready to say that all gayness is not genetic in nature and is simply a choice. We all pretty much remember the "sissy" boys growing up. Most of them never made a choice to be attracted to women later. It was just how they always were from a very young age. Im sure that there have been men that made a cognitive choice to be gay..but..I doubt that number is very definable. Most seemed gay from the get-go IMO.

There is something to be said for the level of masculinity in boys. Across the spectrum of all males you are going to have some that are more masculine than others. I don't have any real data to go on but I would assume that not every "sissy" boy ended up gay. Across my lifetime I have encountered "effeminate" men who are happily married with children.

I don't believe the "choice" happens like turning a switch on or off. It happens over time due to the social environments and other factors that persons are exposed to.

Ive seen some of both. Id say Ive seen fewer sissies become married men..but..I have nothing to back up any assertion. My mom taught primary schoolers for 30 years. She has said many times that she could pick out the boys in the school that were likely to become full blown gaymen with very good accuracy.

How many sissies are we counting across all people who are gay? If you look at gay couples it seems many have a more "masculine" partner (or play the role) than the other. There are folks walking around gay that don't fit the "sissy" stereotype. I hate to use this example but Michael Sam and other athletes come to mind. What about gay women? Are all of them "butch?" How about men and women who change their sexual orientation (either way) much later in life? There are women who find a gay partner after being in an abusive relationship with a man. I have heard and read testimonies from individuals who left the gay lifestyle after finding religion. IMO, you have to be careful if you single out an outlier or anomaly to explain an entire argument or cause and effect. I'm not completely discounting what you are saying but I am making the argument that generally speaking across all people who self-identify as gay I believe it is by choice and not by a born natural, genetic cause.

does it matter if it's a lifestyle choice?

(01-25-2015 09:41 AM)Lush Wrote:  does it matter if it's a lifestyle choice?

No.

(01-24-2015 11:55 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  Hey libs, here you go. The smartest man in the room, the planet, the galaxy just said being gay is a choice. There was no teleprompter to tell him what to say so I can only imagine these are his real thoughts.

Quote:President Barack Obama’s gay allies are ignoring his endorsement of the long-standing claim that sexual orientation is a matter of choice.

“I think people know that treating folks unfairly, even if you disagree with their lifestyle choice… Let them live their lives and under the law they should be treated equally,” he said 25 minutes into his Wednesday interview with GloZell Green, a YouTube personality.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/23/obama-...le-choice/

I disagree. Being homosexual is a choice, being gay isn't.

I didn't have to choose to be straight, I just was.

I don't know, one of the "10 sure signs you're gay" is being anti-sniper.