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(01-29-2015 12:34 PM)Lucy Wrote:  Interesting point brought up by a poster on the Wake sports board:

Quote:The Bye Week deal is crap. Only 5 ACC teams face an ACC opponent that had a Bye Week immediately preceding their game. Of those, FSU/Pitt/GT have one a piece, and Wake and VT have 3 each. Statistically, that should be close to impossible

Last year it happened to FSU four times, including back to back the two weekends immediately preceding the UF game. And two other schools faced FCS the week before.

As for your 2015 schedule, "as if" FSU needs an extra week to prepare for Wake, and that's acknowledging that FSU will be worse next year than this past year.
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(01-29-2015 02:20 PM)Dasville Wrote:  If you include ESPN as an ACC member, we are at 16.

Did you not read the other thread from the last week or two where folks were saying that ESPN does a terrible job promoting the ACC?

Also, isn't the SEC "all-in" with ESPN now, too?
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(01-29-2015 02:45 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 02:20 PM)Dasville Wrote:  If you include ESPN as an ACC member, we are at 16.

Did you not read the other thread from the last week or two where folks were saying that ESPN does a terrible job promoting the ACC?

Also, isn't the SEC "all-in" with ESPN now, too?

No. ESPN may be all-in with the SEC, but the SEC still sees CBS on the side...
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I think that 3 of the 6 ACC teams (Clemson, BC, Wake Forest) that play ND next year have a bye week prior to the game with the Irish.

I am sure that is just coincidence?

Pitt has some extra time too, with the Panthers playing a Thursday game prior to playing ND.

Oh well, just line up and play.
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Yeah I'm happy that the ACC didnt screw FSU over this year giving so many teams a bye week before their scheduled game with the Noles.

Im also happy to have Miami back in the 2nd week of October . That is where it used to be and should say. THe Miami and Florida games should be spread out.

Clemson later in the year is good because it keeps the race alive longer in the Atlantic. And good for both teams because Clemson has a ton of new defensive starters and FSU a ton of new offensive starters. Allows them time to gell.

The bye week is garbage. Way too early and before fricken Wake Forest come on... Then having Miami, Louisville, Georgia Tech 3 weeks in a row is brutal.
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(01-29-2015 03:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I think that 3 of the 6 ACC teams (Clemson, BC, Wake Forest) that play ND next year have a bye week prior to the game with the Irish.

I am sure that is just coincidence?

Pitt has some extra time too, with the Panthers playing a Thursday game prior to playing ND.

Oh well, just line up and play.

If Notre Dame wants to be a full conference member, I'm sure the open date scheduling issue can be dealt with. If Notre Dame wants to stay independent in football, I don't think it's any of their business how their non-conference opponents schedule their other games.
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(01-29-2015 03:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I think that 3 of the 6 ACC teams (Clemson, BC, Wake Forest) that play ND next year have a bye week prior to the game with the Irish.

I am sure that is just coincidence?

Pitt has some extra time too, with the Panthers playing a Thursday game prior to playing ND.

Oh well, just line up and play.

http://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2015/0...-2015.html

VT, Wake and Notre Dame all got the same number (3) opponents coming off byes.
Meanwhile, 9 ACC teams don't face a single team with an open date the week before.
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(01-29-2015 12:03 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 11:57 AM)Lucy Wrote:  Not happy with Wake's home schedule. As an out-of-towner living 2 hours away and the 6 game home schedule including a Thursday night opener vs Elon and a Friday night game vs Louisville, I will have to seriously consider whether or not I will purchase season tix this year. Guess I'll start asking friends in Winston-Salem whether they'd want my pair of tix for those games.

That's why vacation days can be taken one at a time...
Really, if you're only 2 hours away, couldn't you make the Friday game after work?
So we're only talking about taking off the day after the Thursday game, right?

Never understood this whining...I live 1800 miles away and have season tickets. As you said Mark...use some sick or vacation time. Friday is a no brainer...work till noon.
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(01-29-2015 12:05 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Can't say I'm too pleased w/ Pitt's schedule either. Got the first five of seven on the road and a hell of a grind in November to boot. It is what it is and Pitt's going to have to step it up fo sho.

It's partially Steve's fault for scheduling that BS game @Akron

Great news for Cuse/Pitt. No late November game. Cuse had Pitt/BC close out the first two schedules...simply brutal around T-giving week with the students off. I get leaving BC as the last game...but no reason to have Pitt locked in as the 2nd to last week.
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(01-29-2015 04:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 12:03 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 11:57 AM)Lucy Wrote:  Not happy with Wake's home schedule. As an out-of-towner living 2 hours away and the 6 game home schedule including a Thursday night opener vs Elon and a Friday night game vs Louisville, I will have to seriously consider whether or not I will purchase season tix this year. Guess I'll start asking friends in Winston-Salem whether they'd want my pair of tix for those games.

That's why vacation days can be taken one at a time...
Really, if you're only 2 hours away, couldn't you make the Friday game after work?
So we're only talking about taking off the day after the Thursday game, right?

Never understood this whining...I live 1800 miles away and have season tickets. As you said Mark...use some sick or vacation time. Friday is a no brainer...work till noon.

It helps when you are an airline pilot Mark. Next game fly over my house and pick me up. I also hate the one and a half hour drive to the games. Just drop a bungee or something 03-lmfao 03-lmfao
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(01-29-2015 04:25 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 12:03 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 11:57 AM)Lucy Wrote:  Not happy with Wake's home schedule. As an out-of-towner living 2 hours away and the 6 game home schedule including a Thursday night opener vs Elon and a Friday night game vs Louisville, I will have to seriously consider whether or not I will purchase season tix this year. Guess I'll start asking friends in Winston-Salem whether they'd want my pair of tix for those games.

That's why vacation days can be taken one at a time...
Really, if you're only 2 hours away, couldn't you make the Friday game after work?
So we're only talking about taking off the day after the Thursday game, right?

Never understood this whining...I live 1800 miles away and have season tickets. As you said Mark...use some sick or vacation time. Friday is a no brainer...work till noon.

It helps when you are an airline pilot Mark. Next game fly over my house and pick me up. I also hate the one and a half hour drive to the games. 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

I wish I was...I actually pay for my travel. I don't fly jets anymore.
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(01-29-2015 04:28 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:25 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 12:03 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 11:57 AM)Lucy Wrote:  Not happy with Wake's home schedule. As an out-of-towner living 2 hours away and the 6 game home schedule including a Thursday night opener vs Elon and a Friday night game vs Louisville, I will have to seriously consider whether or not I will purchase season tix this year. Guess I'll start asking friends in Winston-Salem whether they'd want my pair of tix for those games.

That's why vacation days can be taken one at a time...
Really, if you're only 2 hours away, couldn't you make the Friday game after work?
So we're only talking about taking off the day after the Thursday game, right?

Never understood this whining...I live 1800 miles away and have season tickets. As you said Mark...use some sick or vacation time. Friday is a no brainer...work till noon.

It helps when you are an airline pilot Mark. Next game fly over my house and pick me up. I also hate the one and a half hour drive to the games. 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

I wish I was...I actually pay for my travel. I don't fly jets anymore.

I knew you were retiring, hence the move to Tampa Bay. But that truly is impressive then to live so far away and have season tickets. 04-bow
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(01-29-2015 03:40 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 03:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I think that 3 of the 6 ACC teams (Clemson, BC, Wake Forest) that play ND next year have a bye week prior to the game with the Irish.

I am sure that is just coincidence?

Pitt has some extra time too, with the Panthers playing a Thursday game prior to playing ND.

Oh well, just line up and play.

If Notre Dame wants to be a full conference member, I'm sure the open date scheduling issue can be dealt with. If Notre Dame wants to stay independent in football, I don't think it's any of their business how their non-conference opponents schedule their other games.



Did you miss the last sentence of my post?

I know the deal. That is just part of the price of football independence.

So it goes.
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(01-29-2015 04:28 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:25 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 12:03 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 11:57 AM)Lucy Wrote:  Not happy with Wake's home schedule. As an out-of-towner living 2 hours away and the 6 game home schedule including a Thursday night opener vs Elon and a Friday night game vs Louisville, I will have to seriously consider whether or not I will purchase season tix this year. Guess I'll start asking friends in Winston-Salem whether they'd want my pair of tix for those games.

That's why vacation days can be taken one at a time...
Really, if you're only 2 hours away, couldn't you make the Friday game after work?
So we're only talking about taking off the day after the Thursday game, right?

Never understood this whining...I live 1800 miles away and have season tickets. As you said Mark...use some sick or vacation time. Friday is a no brainer...work till noon.

It helps when you are an airline pilot Mark. Next game fly over my house and pick me up. I also hate the one and a half hour drive to the games. 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

I wish I was...I actually pay for my travel. I don't fly jets anymore.

I'm still working for a living...and my husband & I have season tickets to 2 schools, so our fall is quite busy coordinating the schedule.

When we retire, we'll get an RV & RV spots for tailgating. 02-13-banana
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(01-29-2015 03:18 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 02:45 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 02:20 PM)Dasville Wrote:  If you include ESPN as an ACC member, we are at 16.

Did you not read the other thread from the last week or two where folks were saying that ESPN does a terrible job promoting the ACC?

Also, isn't the SEC "all-in" with ESPN now, too?

No. ESPN may be all-in with the SEC, but the SEC still sees CBS on the side...

Slipped my mind. I was thinking more of the SECN aspect.
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I don't suppose there will ever be a way to make everybody happy with a conference schedule unless you can play a full round robin. And with bye weeks, the need to provide weekday games for ESPN will always create situations perceived as unfair to certain teams.

We've read a ton of different proposals for division alignment to fix one problem or another, and each one seems to create a new problem for every one it solves. I just don't see how it's possible to make everybody happy, and also benefit the league when it comes to postseason play. Nevertheless, since I don't know the meaning of the word "quit", here's yet another suggestion.

I would propose a variant on the 3+5+5 model. I would have four groups of teams. Two of them would consist of five teams each. The first consists of BC, Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville and Va Tech. In the second group there would be UVa and the four NC schools. That leaves the four southern schools. I would put FSU and GT in one group, and Clemson and Miami in the other.

Each year, these groups align into divisions by pairing one five team and one two team group. The two team groups rotate each year, so that one year FSU and GT play the northern group and the next year the southern group. The schedule, then, plays out like this. You play six games within your division and two outside it. Each of the teams in a five team group is paired with a permanent rival from the other. I would suggest BC-WFU, Syracuse-NC State, Pitt-Duke, Louisville-UNC and Va Tech-UVa. The other four non-division opponents rotate so you play each of them once each four year cycle.

For the four southern schools, their two non-division games are against the other pair. So FSU, GT, Miami and Clemson play each other every year, and play every other team every other year. What does that accomplish? Well, even though Clemson still plays FSU every year, each could still win their division despite losing to the other. If all the southern schools are relatively strong, whoever emerges as champion will be sure of a decent SOS (especially if they are in the ND rotation that year).

In this model, the four NC teams and Virginia are assured of playing each other every year, maintaining their long-standing rivalries and boosting their attendance. Same with five of the six former Big East schools. Everybody plays a Florida team every year. Clemson gets FSU, Miami, GT and South Carolina every year, and may also get Georgia or Auburn OOC if they choose. That can't hurt attendance.

The downside, as I see it, is that the ACC's #2 team may have more losses, and have a harder time getting an access bowl bid, except when the champion qualifies for the playoff and the Orange Bowl isn't a playoff site. The tradeoff is more attractive regular season matchups.

So, which schools would be happy with this, and which ones mad about it? How about your school? Better or worse than what we have now?
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I think this, or some paired down version, will be on the table if the ncaa approves deregualtion.
If so, no clue what, if any, the acc would vote for.
I guess the less likely totally divisionless at least to start.
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(01-29-2015 06:16 PM)Lucy Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:28 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:25 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 12:03 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  That's why vacation days can be taken one at a time...
Really, if you're only 2 hours away, couldn't you make the Friday game after work?
So we're only talking about taking off the day after the Thursday game, right?

Never understood this whining...I live 1800 miles away and have season tickets. As you said Mark...use some sick or vacation time. Friday is a no brainer...work till noon.

It helps when you are an airline pilot Mark. Next game fly over my house and pick me up. I also hate the one and a half hour drive to the games. 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

I wish I was...I actually pay for my travel. I don't fly jets anymore.

I'm still working for a living...and my husband & I have season tickets to 2 schools, so our fall is quite busy coordinating the schedule.

When we retire, we'll get an RV & RV spots for tailgating. 02-13-banana

Yeah, I would imagine going to Syracuse AND Wake in the same day is pretty hectic.
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(02-12-2015 11:54 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 06:16 PM)Lucy Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:28 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:25 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:16 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Never understood this whining...I live 1800 miles away and have season tickets. As you said Mark...use some sick or vacation time. Friday is a no brainer...work till noon.

It helps when you are an airline pilot Mark. Next game fly over my house and pick me up. I also hate the one and a half hour drive to the games. 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

I wish I was...I actually pay for my travel. I don't fly jets anymore.

I'm still working for a living...and my husband & I have season tickets to 2 schools, so our fall is quite busy coordinating the schedule.

When we retire, we'll get an RV & RV spots for tailgating. 02-13-banana

Yeah, I would imagine going to Syracuse AND Wake in the same day is pretty hectic.

I would imagine so too. However going to Wake AND NC State in the same day is doable, and we've done it a few times.
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(02-12-2015 11:57 AM)Lucy Wrote:  
(02-12-2015 11:54 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 06:16 PM)Lucy Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:28 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(01-29-2015 04:25 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  It helps when you are an airline pilot Mark. Next game fly over my house and pick me up. I also hate the one and a half hour drive to the games. 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

I wish I was...I actually pay for my travel. I don't fly jets anymore.

I'm still working for a living...and my husband & I have season tickets to 2 schools, so our fall is quite busy coordinating the schedule.

When we retire, we'll get an RV & RV spots for tailgating. 02-13-banana

Yeah, I would imagine going to Syracuse AND Wake in the same day is pretty hectic.

I would imagine so too. However going to Wake AND NC State in the same day is doable, and we've done it a few times.

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