(03-06-2015 11:37 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 11:13 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(03-05-2015 05:24 PM)I45owl Wrote:  7th posts and the wheels are off already...

I've always wondered, what if the USA reinvested massively in Liberia? Infrastructure, education, medical etc. Bring everything in Liberia up to American standards?

So let's spitball. Instead of telling us why it can't happen, what would need to happen to make this type of experiment successful?

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And time. But, a change in culture would also have to take place. All of the $$$ in the world and loads of time would not make much difference in Saudi Arabia (and, population growth there has countered the influence of oil $$ in raising the middle class).

(03-06-2015 10:44 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 10:28 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 10:20 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 09:07 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 12:36 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  Definitely no racism in there at all, didn't realize a continent could be dark. The whites are the ones who used up all the resources and left it damn near dry damning the African people to a rough several of centuries.

What was removed was a pittance of the total bounty that still remains in the entire continent.

why not just say they don't have have the infrastructure to live like we do? they are still living in the year 1 bc/ad.......many of the flesh have perished due to ignorance....that place is still churnin' for the yearnin'.....they don't know any better.....thanks to the internutz, some there now have a clue....that's the biatch of it.....

"dammit Jim, I'm only a doctor"

Because infrastructure is a small part of why many places in Africa don't resemble the West or even China. What exists in those places are useful systems, ones which the majority of the population agree with and a decent number of folks willing to protect and defend to ensure the continual operation of said system.

gonna have to help me out with the "useful" portion w/o referencing oil

if you are solely referencing tribal factions, then disregard the previous...

I was referring to the seven factors that Ralph Peters lists here. Of which, tribalism is one.

(03-06-2015 01:09 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 10:44 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 10:28 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 10:20 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 09:07 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  What was removed was a pittance of the total bounty that still remains in the entire continent.

why not just say they don't have have the infrastructure to live like we do? they are still living in the year 1 bc/ad.......many of the flesh have perished due to ignorance....that place is still churnin' for the yearnin'.....they don't know any better.....thanks to the internutz, some there now have a clue....that's the biatch of it.....

"dammit Jim, I'm only a doctor"

Because infrastructure is a small part of why many places in Africa don't resemble the West or even China. What exists in those places are useful systems, ones which the majority of the population agree with and a decent number of folks willing to protect and defend to ensure the continual operation of said system.

gonna have to help me out with the "useful" portion w/o referencing oil

if you are solely referencing tribal factions, then disregard the previous...

I was referring to the seven factors that Ralph Peters lists here. Of which, tribalism is one.

had not read that......it's impressive....

Quote:The invisible hand of the market has become an informal but uncompromising lawgiver. Globalization demands conformity to the practices of the global leaders, especially to those of the United States. If you do not conform--or innovate--you lose. If you try to quit the game, you lose even more profoundly. The rules of international competition, whether in the economic, cultural, or conventional military fields, grow ever more homogeneous. No government can afford practices that retard development. Yet such practices are often so deeply embedded in tradition, custom, and belief that the state cannot jettison them

(03-06-2015 12:03 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Dexter needs to get out of the garage more often and educate himself if daddy will allow him.

Fair enough, you win this one. Guess I just haven't been around long enough to hear that term as I'd never heard it in school. Besides, the garage is where I belong, working on cars is a job and a hobby.

Ding Ding Ding, It's back....

Seems Ebola is closing in on a city of over a million people. Hope they have some of that vaccine handy.

This will get Trump impeached.