http://csnbbs.com/thread-738918-post-120...id12093676

For those that want info on the ACCN and the proposed launch in 2016

(05-30-2015 11:12 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  http://csnbbs.com/thread-738918-post-120...id12093676

For those that want info on the ACCN and the proposed launch in 2016

Love the optimism, but we have been hearing for years "it is coming".

A) Don't buy it B) Even if it does, I doubt is has significant revenue C) I suspect it will look like a shadow of the SEC network.....will ESPN hire 20 plus ACC ex players and media like they did with SEC, will their media push it, etc etc. ESPN treats ACC like red head step child now...what changes?

(05-30-2015 11:12 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  http://csnbbs.com/thread-738918-post-120...id12093676

For those that want info on the ACCN and the proposed launch in 2016

Fair warning....
Anything that doesn't resemble hand wringing, Swofford sucks, The ACC sucks will be met with much disapproval here.
CJ

(05-30-2015 01:45 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 11:12 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  http://csnbbs.com/thread-738918-post-120...id12093676

For those that want info on the ACCN and the proposed launch in 2016

Fair warning....
Anything that doesn't resemble hand wringing, Swofford sucks, The ACC sucks will be met with much disapproval here.
CJ

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Guess I struck a nerve with the chicken littles. My advice is if you don't like The ACC get out. Write your AD, write your President, write whoever will get you and your university out of this crappy conference.

I can safely say I speak for most real ACC fans when I say either STFU or leave.

The ACC has been a God send to the unwashed refugees from The Big East. You'll have a difficult time finding Louisville, Syracuse or Pitt fans that sympathize with your "plight" here.

Subsidized advantage is what we are arguing about. All the people complaining about what the SEC has, have some form of cable. I have the SEC network, Big 10 and LHN and have NEVER watched more than 2 minutes of it.

The SEC network was shoved down people's throats. my cable company now charges a "sports surcharge" of around an additional $3 a month to try and recoup the money it won't make back until next year.

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Here is a good indication of just how financially vested ESPN is in the SEC, how much more money the SEC will be making than EVERYBODY, how poorly timed the ACC network is, and how ESPN itself might be threatened with the onset of unbundled television given their carriage fee which is several times higher than anybody other than stand alone subscription channels like HBO.

Quote:With that in mind here are the 15 most lucrative sports channels in the country:

The first number is the monthly subscriber fee, which you then multiply by twelve and then multiply that number by the number of homes that carry the channel.

1. ESPN $6.61 x 94.5 million homes = $7.5 billion
2. NFL Network $1.31 x 73.6 million homes = $1.16 billion
3. FS1 .99 x 91.2 million homes = $1.08 billion
4. ESPN2 .83 x 94.5 million hiomes = $941.2 million
5. SEC Network .66 x 69.1 million homes = $547.3 million
6. Golf Channel .35 x 79.4 million homes = $332.2 million
7. NBC Sports Network .30 x 83.1 million homes = $299 million
8. Big Ten Network .39 x 62 million homes = $290.2 million
9. MLB Network .26 x 71.3 million homes = $222.5 million
10. FS2 .28 x 64 million homes = $215 million
11. NBA TV .29 x 57.2 million homes = $199 million
12. ESPNU .22 x 74.9 million homes = $198 million
13. CBS Sports Network .26 x 61 million homes = $190.3 million
14. NHL Network .32 x 37.4 million homes = $143.6 million
15. Pac 12 Network .39 x 12.3 million homes = $57.6 million

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4. The SEC Network is nearly worth the same amount as the NBA, NHL, and MLB's Networks combined.

Those three bring in $565 million a year, the SEC Network brings in $541 million.

The SEC dwarfs the Big Ten Network, producing nearly twice the subscriber revenue.

Most still haven't realized how successful the SEC Network is. Just wait until these revenue distributions start to roll out to the individual schools. The SEC Network is a total game changer. It went from not existing nine months ago to the fifth most valuable sports network in the country in less than a year.

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6. The Pac 12 Network is a cautionary tale.

There just isn't enough demand among Pac 12 fans to create substantial revenue. The Pac 12 has trumpeted that it's "available in" 90 million homes. But the number who actually pay for it, per SNL Kagan numbers, is just 12.3 million. If those numbers are accurate, it helps to explain why the conference only paid out $1 million extra to each school for the network last year and projects to pay the same amount this year.

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7. The ACC wants its own network.

Does the ACC have more in common with the SEC or the Pac 12? It's probably somewhere in the middle, right? Football drove the SEC's Network. Are there really enough ACC football games that will be in high demand? ESPN executed a masterful plan to launch the SEC Network, but the SEC's channel was paired with ESPN's rights extensions. The ACC Network would be a much, much more difficult battle and it wouldn't have the other ESPN channels to pair for negotiation purposes.

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8. Is cord cutting or illegal streaming becoming an issue for these channels?

According to SNL Kagan ESPN's number of subscribers declined from 97 million homes last year to 94.5 million this year. I asked SNL Kagan why that might be and they replied as follows: "The cable operators have retention tools like low-priced packages without sports. They don't advertise them but they offer them to people who are disconnecting. We think this is causing a decline in ESPN subscribers."

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...rks-050715

It is looking increasingly foolish by the day that the ACC's rights are tied up to ESPN until 2027. Especially when ESPN used their own rights to push the SEC's channel. Double especially when ESPN sublet ACC rights out which they got sublet again ... the very rights the ACC would need to launch their own channel.

But hey -- we get lots of games on ESPNU amirite fellas??

(05-30-2015 11:12 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  http://csnbbs.com/thread-738918-post-120...id12093676

For those that want info on the ACCN and the proposed launch in 2016

You're citing a G.d. message board rumor?

(05-30-2015 05:39 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 11:12 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  http://csnbbs.com/thread-738918-post-120...id12093676

For those that want info on the ACCN and the proposed launch in 2016

You're citing a G.d. message board rumor?

Nope....The article that talks about 2016 is a Newspaper..Link below

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/spo.../22343755/

Bottomline...

SEC Network success bodes well, as an ACC Network would be similarly structured.

CFP success bodes well, as increased viewer interest means more people will watch an ACC Network.

ACCDN success bodes well, as subscribers are many of the same people likely to want an ACC Network.

Longhorn Network has little ACC effect. It's looking like a bad investment for ESPN that will give way at the earliest opportunity to a conference-wide B12 project. B12 will be last P5 conference to get its own network.

Like I have said before.... While ACC fans are hearing 2016....most ACC fans who follow it think between 2016/2018....

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...tml#page=1

The most anticipated and lucrative increase in conference monies would be a cable channel, in partnership with ESPN, dedicated to ACC sports and similar to the wildly successful SEC Network. Babcock expects the project to be discussed at the league’s winter meetings next week in Florida.

“Each report that we receive is a little more optimistic,” he said. “We’re very anxious for that to occur. It’s obviously great exposure for our sports but it’s obviously a revenue stream that can offset all these new measures and also help us keep pace with the SEC. ESPN is one of the best marketers in the world, so when they take your product and push it out there, I thought they nailed it with the SEC.”

The most likely launch date for an ACC channel would be 2016 or '17.

http://www.thecardinalconnect.com/the-ac...v-network/

The conference has been working with ESPN for a while to create a network that would be similar to what the SEC, Big 10 and the PAC 12 are doing. There is a chance that this could come to fruition as early as 2016.

In a recent interview, Florida State president John Thrasher says the ACC is working hard to make this happen.

“I think that’s a viable thing,” Thrasher in a recent interview. “They’re working hard on it. Whether we can get it up and running by 2016, I don’t know. But that’s the goal. … We’re excited about that. And I’ll tell you, that would be a big boon to us in terms of revenue to do that. We’re going to work hard on that.”

What leverage does ESPN/the ACC have to get the ACCN on the same tv tier as the SECN?

(05-30-2015 09:35 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  What leverage does ESPN/the ACC have to get the ACCN on the same tv tier as the SECN?

There's the rub. ESPN sold the SECN as a REQUIREMENT with an extension of their basic cable carriage rights. There is no ESPN extension coming to the plate any time soon now.

(05-30-2015 10:15 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:35 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  What leverage does ESPN/the ACC have to get the ACCN on the same tv tier as the SECN?

There's the rub. ESPN sold the SECN as a REQUIREMENT with an extension of their basic cable carriage rights. There is no ESPN extension coming to the plate any time soon now.

Yup.....ACC Network is a pipe dream.


The dream it would deliver major revenue is an even bigger one.


All Swofford has now is hoping folks buy his BS for 10 years that it is in the works.

(05-30-2015 10:15 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:35 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  What leverage does ESPN/the ACC have to get the ACCN on the same tv tier as the SECN?

There's the rub. ESPN sold the SECN as a REQUIREMENT with an extension of their basic cable carriage rights. There is no ESPN extension coming to the plate any time soon now.

I was hoping your GT brethren was going to come to that conclusion without any guidance from someone wiser.

(05-30-2015 08:36 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  http://www.thecardinalconnect.com/the-ac...v-network/

The conference has been working with ESPN for a while to create a network that would be similar to what the SEC, Big 10 and the PAC 12 are doing. There is a chance that this could come to fruition as early as 2016.

In a recent interview, Florida State president John Thrasher says the ACC is working hard to make this happen.

“I think that’s a viable thing,” Thrasher in a recent interview. “They’re working hard on it. Whether we can get it up and running by 2016, I don’t know. But that’s the goal. … We’re excited about that. And I’ll tell you, that would be a big boon to us in terms of revenue to do that. We’re going to work hard on that.”

You must forget when the Chair of the FSU Board of Trustees said something along the lines of "Swofford assured us there would be a network and that the revenue would be lucrative and keep us in line with the SEC."

Never mind that that was over 2 years ago already.

(05-30-2015 10:15 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:35 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  What leverage does ESPN/the ACC have to get the ACCN on the same tv tier as the SECN?

There's the rub. ESPN sold the SECN as a REQUIREMENT with an extension of their basic cable carriage rights. There is no ESPN extension coming to the plate any time soon now.

Personally, I'd like to see the ACC Network sold as a stand-alone subscription like NetFlix. No idea if any of the decision-makers are thinking that way, but that's what I would like to see...

(05-31-2015 07:00 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 10:15 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-30-2015 09:35 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  What leverage does ESPN/the ACC have to get the ACCN on the same tv tier as the SECN?

There's the rub. ESPN sold the SECN as a REQUIREMENT with an extension of their basic cable carriage rights. There is no ESPN extension coming to the plate any time soon now.

Personally, I'd like to see the ACC Network sold as a stand-alone subscription like NetFlix. No idea if any of the decision-makers are thinking that way, but that's what I would like to see...

Thats would be a good plan as you would be able to charge subscribers directly and get a much larger subscriber fee even if you had fewer subscribers.