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RE: SEC Revenue at $455M, $31M/School?
perhaps the teams with the smaller stadiums can play more neutral site games. perhaps drop home games to 6 per year and raise prices.
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RE: SEC Revenue at $455M, $31M/School?
(06-24-2015 11:37 PM)Dasville Wrote: perhaps the teams with the smaller stadiums can play more neutral site games. perhaps drop home games to 6 per year and raise prices.
That would be the smart thing to do.
The question there is how many tickets they could sell and whether they could fill a larger stadium, but I'd love to see annual neutral site games like
* BC vs Syracuse in NYC (Yankee Stadium?)
* Duke vs Wake in Charlotte (is there a neutral stadium closer?)
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06-25-2015 05:40 AM |
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RE: SEC Revenue at $455M, $31M/School?
(06-25-2015 05:40 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (06-24-2015 11:37 PM)Dasville Wrote: perhaps the teams with the smaller stadiums can play more neutral site games. perhaps drop home games to 6 per year and raise prices.
That would be the smart thing to do.
The question there is how many tickets they could sell and whether they could fill a larger stadium, but I'd love to see annual neutral site games like
* BC vs Syracuse in NYC (Yankee Stadium?)
* Duke vs Wake in Charlotte (is there a neutral stadium closer?)
Alumni stadium holds 44K and the Carrier Dome holds 49K. The SU-WVU Pinstripe Bowl only had 40K for that game. Granted it was lousy weather and about a month later than the annual SU-BC game would be held. But I doubt that game around Thanksgiving Weekend would pull much more than the SU-WVU game. More likely to have higher attendance at the home stadium than the neutral Yankee Stadium site.
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06-25-2015 07:54 AM |
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RE: SEC Revenue at $455M, $31M/School?
I think it's dumb to suggest you need your stadium capacity to be large enough to "take advantage" of your largest crowd. What you need is a capacity that keeps demand and ticket price at good levels. A huge stadium that sits at 75% capacity half of the time is going to cost you money to maintain empty seats, for one. And then how are you going to pay off the construction debt from the expansion if you aren't selling the majority of the expanded seats on a regular basis?
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RE: SEC Revenue at $455M, $31M/School?
(06-25-2015 08:19 AM)Marge Schott Wrote: I think it's dumb to suggest you need your stadium capacity to be large enough to "take advantage" of your largest crowd. What you need is a capacity that keeps demand and ticket price at good levels. A huge stadium that sits at 75% capacity half of the time is going to cost you money to maintain empty seats, for one. And then how are you going to pay off the construction debt from the expansion if you aren't selling the majority of the expanded seats on a regular basis?
Ask Texas A&M - they just added a couple thousand empty seats this year!
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RE: SEC Revenue at $455M, $31M/School?
So you either think there was no GAP or the GAP in TV dollars was the same as today or you think their is a growing GAP....
Funny.... The ACC jus keeps breathing.....
As far as stadiums goes you are all wrong... College Football sold out to TV $$ along time ago...Tickets sales are paltry compared to TV dollars$$..
That being said...Georgia Tech did expand Bobby Dodd to 55K in 2003... so Adding seats does not equal the same money as TV Dollars$
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06-25-2015 11:19 AM |
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RE: SEC Revenue at $455M, $31M/School?
(06-25-2015 10:59 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (06-25-2015 08:19 AM)Marge Schott Wrote: I think it's dumb to suggest you need your stadium capacity to be large enough to "take advantage" of your largest crowd. What you need is a capacity that keeps demand and ticket price at good levels. A huge stadium that sits at 75% capacity half of the time is going to cost you money to maintain empty seats, for one. And then how are you going to pay off the construction debt from the expansion if you aren't selling the majority of the expanded seats on a regular basis?
Ask Texas A&M - they just added a couple thousand empty seats this year!
Certainly interested in seeing what happens there now that the Manziel hype and SEC new car smell is fading. They've had a worse record each of Sumlin's 3 seasons and haven't finished better than t-2nd in their division, a tiebreaker they lost.
If any school could fill a massive stadium after a 20,000-seat expansion, TAMU is one of them. It's a huge-enrollment university and isn't a far drive from 12 million Texans in the states 4 largest metros.
Maybe they fill their stadium despite being mediocre like they were doing prior to expansion and like South Carolina was doing pre-Spurrier.
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RE: SEC Revenue at $455M, $31M/School?
(06-25-2015 08:19 AM)Marge Schott Wrote: I think it's dumb to suggest you need your stadium capacity to be large enough to "take advantage" of your largest crowd. What you need is a capacity that keeps demand and ticket price at good levels. A huge stadium that sits at 75% capacity half of the time is going to cost you money to maintain empty seats, for one. And then how are you going to pay off the construction debt from the expansion if you aren't selling the majority of the expanded seats on a regular basis?
Its all speculation at this point, but many signs are pointing to an expanded stadium at UofL. I think we are adding suites to help fund the "other" seats if everything comes together. The demand seems to be there. We sit about 56,000 now. All chair back seats. We also have a neighbor we compete with.
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RE: SEC Revenue at $455M, $31M/School?
(06-25-2015 03:27 PM)Marge Schott Wrote: (06-25-2015 10:59 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (06-25-2015 08:19 AM)Marge Schott Wrote: I think it's dumb to suggest you need your stadium capacity to be large enough to "take advantage" of your largest crowd. What you need is a capacity that keeps demand and ticket price at good levels. A huge stadium that sits at 75% capacity half of the time is going to cost you money to maintain empty seats, for one. And then how are you going to pay off the construction debt from the expansion if you aren't selling the majority of the expanded seats on a regular basis?
Ask Texas A&M - they just added a couple thousand empty seats this year!
Certainly interested in seeing what happens there now that the Manziel hype and SEC new car smell is fading. They've had a worse record each of Sumlin's 3 seasons and haven't finished better than t-2nd in their division, a tiebreaker they lost.
If any school could fill a massive stadium after a 20,000-seat expansion, TAMU is one of them. It's a huge-enrollment university and isn't a far drive from 12 million Texans in the states 4 largest metros.
Maybe they fill their stadium despite being mediocre like they were doing prior to expansion and like South Carolina was doing pre-Spurrier.
Good point bringing up South Carolina. There's a big difference between hope (pre-Spurrier) and expectations (post). I wonder if attendance will drop off once the old man finally retires... or even before then if the losses keep mounting?
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RE: SEC Revenue at $455M, $31M/School?
(06-25-2015 03:57 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (06-25-2015 03:27 PM)Marge Schott Wrote: (06-25-2015 10:59 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (06-25-2015 08:19 AM)Marge Schott Wrote: I think it's dumb to suggest you need your stadium capacity to be large enough to "take advantage" of your largest crowd. What you need is a capacity that keeps demand and ticket price at good levels. A huge stadium that sits at 75% capacity half of the time is going to cost you money to maintain empty seats, for one. And then how are you going to pay off the construction debt from the expansion if you aren't selling the majority of the expanded seats on a regular basis?
Ask Texas A&M - they just added a couple thousand empty seats this year!
Certainly interested in seeing what happens there now that the Manziel hype and SEC new car smell is fading. They've had a worse record each of Sumlin's 3 seasons and haven't finished better than t-2nd in their division, a tiebreaker they lost.
If any school could fill a massive stadium after a 20,000-seat expansion, TAMU is one of them. It's a huge-enrollment university and isn't a far drive from 12 million Texans in the states 4 largest metros.
Maybe they fill their stadium despite being mediocre like they were doing prior to expansion and like South Carolina was doing pre-Spurrier.
Good point bringing up South Carolina. There's a big difference between hope (pre-Spurrier) and expectations (post). I wonder if attendance will drop off once the old man finally retires... or even before then if the losses keep mounting?
You mean like it has done in Blacksburg with an aging Beamer?
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RE: SEC Revenue at $455M, $31M/School?
(06-25-2015 04:22 PM)JRsec Wrote: (06-25-2015 03:57 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (06-25-2015 03:27 PM)Marge Schott Wrote: (06-25-2015 10:59 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (06-25-2015 08:19 AM)Marge Schott Wrote: I think it's dumb to suggest you need your stadium capacity to be large enough to "take advantage" of your largest crowd. What you need is a capacity that keeps demand and ticket price at good levels. A huge stadium that sits at 75% capacity half of the time is going to cost you money to maintain empty seats, for one. And then how are you going to pay off the construction debt from the expansion if you aren't selling the majority of the expanded seats on a regular basis?
Ask Texas A&M - they just added a couple thousand empty seats this year!
Certainly interested in seeing what happens there now that the Manziel hype and SEC new car smell is fading. They've had a worse record each of Sumlin's 3 seasons and haven't finished better than t-2nd in their division, a tiebreaker they lost.
If any school could fill a massive stadium after a 20,000-seat expansion, TAMU is one of them. It's a huge-enrollment university and isn't a far drive from 12 million Texans in the states 4 largest metros.
Maybe they fill their stadium despite being mediocre like they were doing prior to expansion and like South Carolina was doing pre-Spurrier.
Good point bringing up South Carolina. There's a big difference between hope (pre-Spurrier) and expectations (post). I wonder if attendance will drop off once the old man finally retires... or even before then if the losses keep mounting?
You mean like it has done in Blacksburg with an aging Beamer?
Ouch!
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