(08-23-2015 07:59 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 07:19 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 04:31 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 09:56 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 09:16 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Well, it doesn't always depend on who they're playing either. As long as one of the larger programs is in the match-up then CBS will want the game.

Remember though, CBS only has 1 game a week so their options are limited. No league depends on 1 game a week to market their league so it's really not a big deal. Frankly, the SEC has the best exposure of any league right now. A weekly game on CBS in the same time slot...no other league has that on a major broadcast network.

That and despite what ESPN haters might think, being on that network is very important. Where else are the games going to be nationally televised? ABC and ESPN are essentially the same entity so ABC has content because ESPN owns it. FOX is just breaking into the business and they are notoriously disorganized and inconsistent with their marketing. Not to mention, FS1 is still not the top destination for college football fans as they have a limited number of games on Saturdays. A lot of people don't even get FS2. You can tune to ESPN or ESPN2 and watch games all day without changing the channel.

By contrast, the SEC has multiple prime time slots on the ESPN family every week with the exception of ABC. It's a very good situation and it helps produce the highest ratings for any league.

No other Network has that YET. The Big Ten has basketball deals with CBS. The Big Ten is entering a new negotiation period for all their tv contract deals. CBS sure is pimping the whole Meyer vs Harbaugh rhetoric. We may very well see The Big Ten with a similar situation as the SEC but with a little twist. CBS gets tier 1, ABC/ESPN share Tier 2 with Fox and then the BTN is finally classed as Tier 3 which will be nice so that we don't have to continue schooling folks on the main board that currently the BTN is classed as tier 2, not tier 3.

The Big Ten will get a good deal, no doubt. Maybe they get a weekly game on CBS, I suppose that's possible.

You don't want to reduce the ratings potential for the BTN though which will make a deal with CBS a little more difficult if splitting your other content with FOX and ESPN is the desired path. When it comes to football, there are only so many games to go around.

On the bright side of the Big Ten being on CBS, you can have Verne and Gary with the blessing of the entire SEC footprint. No really, take them...please.

Well, I don't think Fox ever gets a piece of The Big Ten unless their is further expansion and Fox needs to be appeased so that expansion can happen. Only The Big Ten can currently do that for Fox.

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Appeasing FOX is the key to future realignment? And only the B1G can appease FOX so the B1G holds the keys to the future.
Have I caught my tail yet?

Yes, because Fox is major party to the big 12 GoR. For them to not hold the departing schools liable for it's damages then they have to receive something equal or better than what they have with the big 12. Thus, Fox is a major player in this. Only the Big Ten has a negotiating window thus only The Big Ten can give Fox something of equal or greater value.

(08-23-2015 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 07:59 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 07:19 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 04:31 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 09:56 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  No other Network has that YET. The Big Ten has basketball deals with CBS. The Big Ten is entering a new negotiation period for all their tv contract deals. CBS sure is pimping the whole Meyer vs Harbaugh rhetoric. We may very well see The Big Ten with a similar situation as the SEC but with a little twist. CBS gets tier 1, ABC/ESPN share Tier 2 with Fox and then the BTN is finally classed as Tier 3 which will be nice so that we don't have to continue schooling folks on the main board that currently the BTN is classed as tier 2, not tier 3.

The Big Ten will get a good deal, no doubt. Maybe they get a weekly game on CBS, I suppose that's possible.

You don't want to reduce the ratings potential for the BTN though which will make a deal with CBS a little more difficult if splitting your other content with FOX and ESPN is the desired path. When it comes to football, there are only so many games to go around.

On the bright side of the Big Ten being on CBS, you can have Verne and Gary with the blessing of the entire SEC footprint. No really, take them...please.

Well, I don't think Fox ever gets a piece of The Big Ten unless their is further expansion and Fox needs to be appeased so that expansion can happen. Only The Big Ten can currently do that for Fox.

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Appeasing FOX is the key to future realignment? And only the B1G can appease FOX so the B1G holds the keys to the future.
Have I caught my tail yet?

By appeasing the obviously #2 network H1 is referring to the oft cited additions of Kansas (which doesn't add much in terms of revenue to the Big 10) and Oklahoma (who isn't close to being AAU). So to appease FOX the Big 10 must take a school that is not nearly as profitable for them as a school to the east, and accept what will immediately be the 16th best academic school in the Big 10 (and the only one never to have been AAU).

Furthermore, Oklahoma has to want to go to the Big 10 without Texas and without Oklahoma State and then agree to a 9 game conference schedule where their two chief rivals will have to be 2/3rds of the OOC games leaving their only patsy for homecoming. Yep that scenario sure looks to be inevitable!? Then realignment can progress.

What's more likely to happen is that the Big 12 plays another year and maybe by this time next year Oklahoma will have announced that they are headed to the SEC with either Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor or West Virginia. Why? Because no matter what Frank says OU is not AAU and the Big 10 presidents have an agenda pertaining to AAU that is more important to them than landing OU, and I doubt OU wants to go to a conference where they are dead last in academics.

In all likelihood the SEC lands Oklahoma. If not Texahoma to the PAC is still hanging out there where both ESPN and FOX retain exactly the same relationship with those schools that they have right now.

If OU goes SEC I do look for Texas to go PAC with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State. West Virginia goes ACC. Kansas and Iowa State go Big 10. And Baylor joins OU in the SEC. Or for Oklahoma State to come with OU to the SEC and T.C.U. to move with Texas Tech and Kansas State to the PAC.

If Texas goes ACC everything will get real interesting from there.

If Texas goes ACC and goes all in then I think Wake becomes an everything but football member and schedules North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, N.C. State and Clemson/N.C. State as their 5 conference games. That's all they want anyway. Notre Dame and Texas would then make 15 full members and Baylor would make it 16.

ACC:
Baylor, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Texas
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Clemson
Boston College, Miami, Notre Dame, Syracuse
Louisville, Pitt, Virginia, Virginia Tech

SEC:
Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma
Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Who goes Big 10 or PAC? We don't care.

If we have to account for 8 to get it done then:

ACC:
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Louisville, West Virginia
Boston College, Duke, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia
Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U.
*Wake Forest: everything but football
SEC:
Kentucky, South Carolina, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana State, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas A&M

If Texahoma makes it to the PAC and if we assume that the B1G still takes Kansas and Iowa State what does the SEC do? Baylor and West Virginia? The SEC needs another Texas team and Kentucky sure could use some help. That accounts for 8 of the 10 with TCU and K-State being left out.

(08-24-2015 03:06 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 07:59 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 07:19 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 04:31 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  The Big Ten will get a good deal, no doubt. Maybe they get a weekly game on CBS, I suppose that's possible.

You don't want to reduce the ratings potential for the BTN though which will make a deal with CBS a little more difficult if splitting your other content with FOX and ESPN is the desired path. When it comes to football, there are only so many games to go around.

On the bright side of the Big Ten being on CBS, you can have Verne and Gary with the blessing of the entire SEC footprint. No really, take them...please.

Well, I don't think Fox ever gets a piece of The Big Ten unless their is further expansion and Fox needs to be appeased so that expansion can happen. Only The Big Ten can currently do that for Fox.

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Appeasing FOX is the key to future realignment? And only the B1G can appease FOX so the B1G holds the keys to the future.
Have I caught my tail yet?

By appeasing the obviously #2 network H1 is referring to the oft cited additions of Kansas (which doesn't add much in terms of revenue to the Big 10) and Oklahoma (who isn't close to being AAU). So to appease FOX the Big 10 must take a school that is not nearly as profitable for them as a school to the east, and accept what will immediately be the 16th best academic school in the Big 10 (and the only one never to have been AAU).

Furthermore, Oklahoma has to want to go to the Big 10 without Texas and without Oklahoma State and then agree to a 9 game conference schedule where their two chief rivals will have to be 2/3rds of the OOC games leaving their only patsy for homecoming. Yep that scenario sure looks to be inevitable!? Then realignment can progress.

What's more likely to happen is that the Big 12 plays another year and maybe by this time next year Oklahoma will have announced that they are headed to the SEC with either Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor or West Virginia. Why? Because no matter what Frank says OU is not AAU and the Big 10 presidents have an agenda pertaining to AAU that is more important to them than landing OU, and I doubt OU wants to go to a conference where they are dead last in academics.

In all likelihood the SEC lands Oklahoma. If not Texahoma to the PAC is still hanging out there where both ESPN and FOX retain exactly the same relationship with those schools that they have right now.

If OU goes SEC I do look for Texas to go PAC with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State. West Virginia goes ACC. Kansas and Iowa State go Big 10. And Baylor joins OU in the SEC. Or for Oklahoma State to come with OU to the SEC and T.C.U. to move with Texas Tech and Kansas State to the PAC.

If Texas goes ACC everything will get real interesting from there.

If Texas goes ACC and goes all in then I think Wake becomes an everything but football member and schedules North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, N.C. State and Clemson/N.C. State as their 5 conference games. That's all they want anyway. Notre Dame and Texas would then make 15 full members and Baylor would make it 16.

ACC:
Baylor, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Texas
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Clemson
Boston College, Miami, Notre Dame, Syracuse
Louisville, Pitt, Virginia, Virginia Tech

SEC:
Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma
Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Who goes Big 10 or PAC? We don't care.

If we have to account for 8 to get it done then:

ACC:
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Louisville, West Virginia
Boston College, Duke, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia
Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U.
*Wake Forest: everything but football
SEC:
Kentucky, South Carolina, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana State, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas A&M

If Texahoma makes it to the PAC and if we assume that the B1G still takes Kansas and Iowa State what does the SEC do? Baylor and West Virginia? The SEC needs another Texas team and Kentucky sure could use some help. That accounts for 8 of the 10 with TCU and K-State being left out.

Always trolling these days. When's the last time you truly participated in a constructive discussion?

(08-24-2015 03:06 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 07:59 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 07:19 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 04:31 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  The Big Ten will get a good deal, no doubt. Maybe they get a weekly game on CBS, I suppose that's possible.

You don't want to reduce the ratings potential for the BTN though which will make a deal with CBS a little more difficult if splitting your other content with FOX and ESPN is the desired path. When it comes to football, there are only so many games to go around.

On the bright side of the Big Ten being on CBS, you can have Verne and Gary with the blessing of the entire SEC footprint. No really, take them...please.

Well, I don't think Fox ever gets a piece of The Big Ten unless their is further expansion and Fox needs to be appeased so that expansion can happen. Only The Big Ten can currently do that for Fox.

?
Appeasing FOX is the key to future realignment? And only the B1G can appease FOX so the B1G holds the keys to the future.
Have I caught my tail yet?

By appeasing the obviously #2 network H1 is referring to the oft cited additions of Kansas (which doesn't add much in terms of revenue to the Big 10) and Oklahoma (who isn't close to being AAU). So to appease FOX the Big 10 must take a school that is not nearly as profitable for them as a school to the east, and accept what will immediately be the 16th best academic school in the Big 10 (and the only one never to have been AAU).

Furthermore, Oklahoma has to want to go to the Big 10 without Texas and without Oklahoma State and then agree to a 9 game conference schedule where their two chief rivals will have to be 2/3rds of the OOC games leaving their only patsy for homecoming. Yep that scenario sure looks to be inevitable!? Then realignment can progress.

What's more likely to happen is that the Big 12 plays another year and maybe by this time next year Oklahoma will have announced that they are headed to the SEC with either Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor or West Virginia. Why? Because no matter what Frank says OU is not AAU and the Big 10 presidents have an agenda pertaining to AAU that is more important to them than landing OU, and I doubt OU wants to go to a conference where they are dead last in academics.

In all likelihood the SEC lands Oklahoma. If not Texahoma to the PAC is still hanging out there where both ESPN and FOX retain exactly the same relationship with those schools that they have right now.

If OU goes SEC I do look for Texas to go PAC with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State. West Virginia goes ACC. Kansas and Iowa State go Big 10. And Baylor joins OU in the SEC. Or for Oklahoma State to come with OU to the SEC and T.C.U. to move with Texas Tech and Kansas State to the PAC.

If Texas goes ACC everything will get real interesting from there.

If Texas goes ACC and goes all in then I think Wake becomes an everything but football member and schedules North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, N.C. State and Clemson/N.C. State as their 5 conference games. That's all they want anyway. Notre Dame and Texas would then make 15 full members and Baylor would make it 16.

ACC:
Baylor, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Texas
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Clemson
Boston College, Miami, Notre Dame, Syracuse
Louisville, Pitt, Virginia, Virginia Tech

SEC:
Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma
Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Who goes Big 10 or PAC? We don't care.

If we have to account for 8 to get it done then:

ACC:
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Louisville, West Virginia
Boston College, Duke, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia
Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U.
*Wake Forest: everything but football
SEC:
Kentucky, South Carolina, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana State, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas A&M

If Texahoma makes it to the PAC and if we assume that the B1G still takes Kansas and Iowa State what does the SEC do? Baylor and West Virginia? The SEC needs another Texas team and Kentucky sure could use some help. That accounts for 8 of the 10 with TCU and K-State being left out.

You are actually assuming that The Big Ten will take Iowa State?

(08-24-2015 04:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 03:06 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 07:59 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 07:19 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Well, I don't think Fox ever gets a piece of The Big Ten unless their is further expansion and Fox needs to be appeased so that expansion can happen. Only The Big Ten can currently do that for Fox.

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Appeasing FOX is the key to future realignment? And only the B1G can appease FOX so the B1G holds the keys to the future.
Have I caught my tail yet?

By appeasing the obviously #2 network H1 is referring to the oft cited additions of Kansas (which doesn't add much in terms of revenue to the Big 10) and Oklahoma (who isn't close to being AAU). So to appease FOX the Big 10 must take a school that is not nearly as profitable for them as a school to the east, and accept what will immediately be the 16th best academic school in the Big 10 (and the only one never to have been AAU).

Furthermore, Oklahoma has to want to go to the Big 10 without Texas and without Oklahoma State and then agree to a 9 game conference schedule where their two chief rivals will have to be 2/3rds of the OOC games leaving their only patsy for homecoming. Yep that scenario sure looks to be inevitable!? Then realignment can progress.

What's more likely to happen is that the Big 12 plays another year and maybe by this time next year Oklahoma will have announced that they are headed to the SEC with either Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor or West Virginia. Why? Because no matter what Frank says OU is not AAU and the Big 10 presidents have an agenda pertaining to AAU that is more important to them than landing OU, and I doubt OU wants to go to a conference where they are dead last in academics.

In all likelihood the SEC lands Oklahoma. If not Texahoma to the PAC is still hanging out there where both ESPN and FOX retain exactly the same relationship with those schools that they have right now.

If OU goes SEC I do look for Texas to go PAC with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State. West Virginia goes ACC. Kansas and Iowa State go Big 10. And Baylor joins OU in the SEC. Or for Oklahoma State to come with OU to the SEC and T.C.U. to move with Texas Tech and Kansas State to the PAC.

If Texas goes ACC everything will get real interesting from there.

If Texas goes ACC and goes all in then I think Wake becomes an everything but football member and schedules North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, N.C. State and Clemson/N.C. State as their 5 conference games. That's all they want anyway. Notre Dame and Texas would then make 15 full members and Baylor would make it 16.

ACC:
Baylor, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Texas
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Clemson
Boston College, Miami, Notre Dame, Syracuse
Louisville, Pitt, Virginia, Virginia Tech

SEC:
Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma
Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Who goes Big 10 or PAC? We don't care.

If we have to account for 8 to get it done then:

ACC:
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Louisville, West Virginia
Boston College, Duke, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia
Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U.
*Wake Forest: everything but football
SEC:
Kentucky, South Carolina, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana State, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas A&M

If Texahoma makes it to the PAC and if we assume that the B1G still takes Kansas and Iowa State what does the SEC do? Baylor and West Virginia? The SEC needs another Texas team and Kentucky sure could use some help. That accounts for 8 of the 10 with TCU and K-State being left out.

Always trolling these days. When's the last time you truly participated in a constructive discussion?

It's sometimes hard to find constructive discussion instead of propaganda dissemination, kind of like trying to have a honest conversation with Joseph Goebbels.

(08-24-2015 06:33 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 03:06 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 07:59 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-22-2015 07:19 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Well, I don't think Fox ever gets a piece of The Big Ten unless their is further expansion and Fox needs to be appeased so that expansion can happen. Only The Big Ten can currently do that for Fox.

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Appeasing FOX is the key to future realignment? And only the B1G can appease FOX so the B1G holds the keys to the future.
Have I caught my tail yet?

By appeasing the obviously #2 network H1 is referring to the oft cited additions of Kansas (which doesn't add much in terms of revenue to the Big 10) and Oklahoma (who isn't close to being AAU). So to appease FOX the Big 10 must take a school that is not nearly as profitable for them as a school to the east, and accept what will immediately be the 16th best academic school in the Big 10 (and the only one never to have been AAU).

Furthermore, Oklahoma has to want to go to the Big 10 without Texas and without Oklahoma State and then agree to a 9 game conference schedule where their two chief rivals will have to be 2/3rds of the OOC games leaving their only patsy for homecoming. Yep that scenario sure looks to be inevitable!? Then realignment can progress.

What's more likely to happen is that the Big 12 plays another year and maybe by this time next year Oklahoma will have announced that they are headed to the SEC with either Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor or West Virginia. Why? Because no matter what Frank says OU is not AAU and the Big 10 presidents have an agenda pertaining to AAU that is more important to them than landing OU, and I doubt OU wants to go to a conference where they are dead last in academics.

In all likelihood the SEC lands Oklahoma. If not Texahoma to the PAC is still hanging out there where both ESPN and FOX retain exactly the same relationship with those schools that they have right now.

If OU goes SEC I do look for Texas to go PAC with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State. West Virginia goes ACC. Kansas and Iowa State go Big 10. And Baylor joins OU in the SEC. Or for Oklahoma State to come with OU to the SEC and T.C.U. to move with Texas Tech and Kansas State to the PAC.

If Texas goes ACC everything will get real interesting from there.

If Texas goes ACC and goes all in then I think Wake becomes an everything but football member and schedules North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, N.C. State and Clemson/N.C. State as their 5 conference games. That's all they want anyway. Notre Dame and Texas would then make 15 full members and Baylor would make it 16.

ACC:
Baylor, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Texas
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Clemson
Boston College, Miami, Notre Dame, Syracuse
Louisville, Pitt, Virginia, Virginia Tech

SEC:
Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma
Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Who goes Big 10 or PAC? We don't care.

If we have to account for 8 to get it done then:

ACC:
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Louisville, West Virginia
Boston College, Duke, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia
Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U.
*Wake Forest: everything but football
SEC:
Kentucky, South Carolina, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana State, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas A&M

If Texahoma makes it to the PAC and if we assume that the B1G still takes Kansas and Iowa State what does the SEC do? Baylor and West Virginia? The SEC needs another Texas team and Kentucky sure could use some help. That accounts for 8 of the 10 with TCU and K-State being left out.

You are actually assuming that The Big Ten will take Iowa State?

H1 you have actually confessed that the B1G would take Iowa State in a thread on LandThieves.

(08-24-2015 08:47 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 04:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 03:06 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 07:59 PM)XLance Wrote:  ?
Appeasing FOX is the key to future realignment? And only the B1G can appease FOX so the B1G holds the keys to the future.
Have I caught my tail yet?

By appeasing the obviously #2 network H1 is referring to the oft cited additions of Kansas (which doesn't add much in terms of revenue to the Big 10) and Oklahoma (who isn't close to being AAU). So to appease FOX the Big 10 must take a school that is not nearly as profitable for them as a school to the east, and accept what will immediately be the 16th best academic school in the Big 10 (and the only one never to have been AAU).

Furthermore, Oklahoma has to want to go to the Big 10 without Texas and without Oklahoma State and then agree to a 9 game conference schedule where their two chief rivals will have to be 2/3rds of the OOC games leaving their only patsy for homecoming. Yep that scenario sure looks to be inevitable!? Then realignment can progress.

What's more likely to happen is that the Big 12 plays another year and maybe by this time next year Oklahoma will have announced that they are headed to the SEC with either Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor or West Virginia. Why? Because no matter what Frank says OU is not AAU and the Big 10 presidents have an agenda pertaining to AAU that is more important to them than landing OU, and I doubt OU wants to go to a conference where they are dead last in academics.

In all likelihood the SEC lands Oklahoma. If not Texahoma to the PAC is still hanging out there where both ESPN and FOX retain exactly the same relationship with those schools that they have right now.

If OU goes SEC I do look for Texas to go PAC with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State. West Virginia goes ACC. Kansas and Iowa State go Big 10. And Baylor joins OU in the SEC. Or for Oklahoma State to come with OU to the SEC and T.C.U. to move with Texas Tech and Kansas State to the PAC.

If Texas goes ACC everything will get real interesting from there.

If Texas goes ACC and goes all in then I think Wake becomes an everything but football member and schedules North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, N.C. State and Clemson/N.C. State as their 5 conference games. That's all they want anyway. Notre Dame and Texas would then make 15 full members and Baylor would make it 16.

ACC:
Baylor, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Texas
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Clemson
Boston College, Miami, Notre Dame, Syracuse
Louisville, Pitt, Virginia, Virginia Tech

SEC:
Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma
Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Who goes Big 10 or PAC? We don't care.

If we have to account for 8 to get it done then:

ACC:
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Louisville, West Virginia
Boston College, Duke, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia
Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U.
*Wake Forest: everything but football
SEC:
Kentucky, South Carolina, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana State, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas A&M

If Texahoma makes it to the PAC and if we assume that the B1G still takes Kansas and Iowa State what does the SEC do? Baylor and West Virginia? The SEC needs another Texas team and Kentucky sure could use some help. That accounts for 8 of the 10 with TCU and K-State being left out.

Always trolling these days. When's the last time you truly participated in a constructive discussion?

It's sometimes hard to find constructive discussion instead of propaganda dissemination, kind of like trying to have a honest conversation with Joseph Goebbels.

You're the corporate guy, not me. Goebbels was the father of Political Correctness. If he had been born in North Carolina he would have been a Ram's Club member. As for me I still believe in the power of individual effort and original thought. I like the Marine Corps mantra when faced with adversity, "Adapt, Innovate, Overcome".

Besides there is a bigger agenda afoot than mere SEC/ACC woofing and it's not even football related.

(08-24-2015 08:50 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 06:33 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 03:06 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 07:59 PM)XLance Wrote:  ?
Appeasing FOX is the key to future realignment? And only the B1G can appease FOX so the B1G holds the keys to the future.
Have I caught my tail yet?

By appeasing the obviously #2 network H1 is referring to the oft cited additions of Kansas (which doesn't add much in terms of revenue to the Big 10) and Oklahoma (who isn't close to being AAU). So to appease FOX the Big 10 must take a school that is not nearly as profitable for them as a school to the east, and accept what will immediately be the 16th best academic school in the Big 10 (and the only one never to have been AAU).

Furthermore, Oklahoma has to want to go to the Big 10 without Texas and without Oklahoma State and then agree to a 9 game conference schedule where their two chief rivals will have to be 2/3rds of the OOC games leaving their only patsy for homecoming. Yep that scenario sure looks to be inevitable!? Then realignment can progress.

What's more likely to happen is that the Big 12 plays another year and maybe by this time next year Oklahoma will have announced that they are headed to the SEC with either Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor or West Virginia. Why? Because no matter what Frank says OU is not AAU and the Big 10 presidents have an agenda pertaining to AAU that is more important to them than landing OU, and I doubt OU wants to go to a conference where they are dead last in academics.

In all likelihood the SEC lands Oklahoma. If not Texahoma to the PAC is still hanging out there where both ESPN and FOX retain exactly the same relationship with those schools that they have right now.

If OU goes SEC I do look for Texas to go PAC with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State. West Virginia goes ACC. Kansas and Iowa State go Big 10. And Baylor joins OU in the SEC. Or for Oklahoma State to come with OU to the SEC and T.C.U. to move with Texas Tech and Kansas State to the PAC.

If Texas goes ACC everything will get real interesting from there.

If Texas goes ACC and goes all in then I think Wake becomes an everything but football member and schedules North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, N.C. State and Clemson/N.C. State as their 5 conference games. That's all they want anyway. Notre Dame and Texas would then make 15 full members and Baylor would make it 16.

ACC:
Baylor, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Texas
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Clemson
Boston College, Miami, Notre Dame, Syracuse
Louisville, Pitt, Virginia, Virginia Tech

SEC:
Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma
Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Who goes Big 10 or PAC? We don't care.

If we have to account for 8 to get it done then:

ACC:
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Louisville, West Virginia
Boston College, Duke, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia
Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U.
*Wake Forest: everything but football
SEC:
Kentucky, South Carolina, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana State, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas A&M

If Texahoma makes it to the PAC and if we assume that the B1G still takes Kansas and Iowa State what does the SEC do? Baylor and West Virginia? The SEC needs another Texas team and Kentucky sure could use some help. That accounts for 8 of the 10 with TCU and K-State being left out.

You are actually assuming that The Big Ten will take Iowa State?

H1 you have actually confessed that the B1G would take Iowa State in a thread on LandThieves.

I have confessed that as a last resort to save the school from falling to a lower conference, The Big Ten would take them. That is a whole lot different from saying that Iowa State will end up in The Big Ten. What's funny is that you cannot tell the difference.

(08-24-2015 10:21 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 08:50 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 06:33 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 03:06 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  By appeasing the obviously #2 network H1 is referring to the oft cited additions of Kansas (which doesn't add much in terms of revenue to the Big 10) and Oklahoma (who isn't close to being AAU). So to appease FOX the Big 10 must take a school that is not nearly as profitable for them as a school to the east, and accept what will immediately be the 16th best academic school in the Big 10 (and the only one never to have been AAU).

Furthermore, Oklahoma has to want to go to the Big 10 without Texas and without Oklahoma State and then agree to a 9 game conference schedule where their two chief rivals will have to be 2/3rds of the OOC games leaving their only patsy for homecoming. Yep that scenario sure looks to be inevitable!? Then realignment can progress.

What's more likely to happen is that the Big 12 plays another year and maybe by this time next year Oklahoma will have announced that they are headed to the SEC with either Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor or West Virginia. Why? Because no matter what Frank says OU is not AAU and the Big 10 presidents have an agenda pertaining to AAU that is more important to them than landing OU, and I doubt OU wants to go to a conference where they are dead last in academics.

In all likelihood the SEC lands Oklahoma. If not Texahoma to the PAC is still hanging out there where both ESPN and FOX retain exactly the same relationship with those schools that they have right now.

If OU goes SEC I do look for Texas to go PAC with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State. West Virginia goes ACC. Kansas and Iowa State go Big 10. And Baylor joins OU in the SEC. Or for Oklahoma State to come with OU to the SEC and T.C.U. to move with Texas Tech and Kansas State to the PAC.

If Texas goes ACC everything will get real interesting from there.

If Texas goes ACC and goes all in then I think Wake becomes an everything but football member and schedules North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, N.C. State and Clemson/N.C. State as their 5 conference games. That's all they want anyway. Notre Dame and Texas would then make 15 full members and Baylor would make it 16.

ACC:
Baylor, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Texas
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Clemson
Boston College, Miami, Notre Dame, Syracuse
Louisville, Pitt, Virginia, Virginia Tech

SEC:
Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma
Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Who goes Big 10 or PAC? We don't care.

If we have to account for 8 to get it done then:

ACC:
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Louisville, West Virginia
Boston College, Duke, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia
Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U.
*Wake Forest: everything but football
SEC:
Kentucky, South Carolina, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana State, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas A&M

If Texahoma makes it to the PAC and if we assume that the B1G still takes Kansas and Iowa State what does the SEC do? Baylor and West Virginia? The SEC needs another Texas team and Kentucky sure could use some help. That accounts for 8 of the 10 with TCU and K-State being left out.

You are actually assuming that The Big Ten will take Iowa State?

H1 you have actually confessed that the B1G would take Iowa State in a thread on LandThieves.

I have confessed that as a last resort to save the school from falling to a lower conference, The Big Ten would take them. That is a whole lot different from saying that Iowa State will end up in The Big Ten. What's funny is that you cannot tell the difference.

It might be helpful if you were to catalog your posts then you wouldn't embarrass yourself.

(08-24-2015 09:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 08:47 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 04:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 03:06 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  By appeasing the obviously #2 network H1 is referring to the oft cited additions of Kansas (which doesn't add much in terms of revenue to the Big 10) and Oklahoma (who isn't close to being AAU). So to appease FOX the Big 10 must take a school that is not nearly as profitable for them as a school to the east, and accept what will immediately be the 16th best academic school in the Big 10 (and the only one never to have been AAU).

Furthermore, Oklahoma has to want to go to the Big 10 without Texas and without Oklahoma State and then agree to a 9 game conference schedule where their two chief rivals will have to be 2/3rds of the OOC games leaving their only patsy for homecoming. Yep that scenario sure looks to be inevitable!? Then realignment can progress.

What's more likely to happen is that the Big 12 plays another year and maybe by this time next year Oklahoma will have announced that they are headed to the SEC with either Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor or West Virginia. Why? Because no matter what Frank says OU is not AAU and the Big 10 presidents have an agenda pertaining to AAU that is more important to them than landing OU, and I doubt OU wants to go to a conference where they are dead last in academics.

In all likelihood the SEC lands Oklahoma. If not Texahoma to the PAC is still hanging out there where both ESPN and FOX retain exactly the same relationship with those schools that they have right now.

If OU goes SEC I do look for Texas to go PAC with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State. West Virginia goes ACC. Kansas and Iowa State go Big 10. And Baylor joins OU in the SEC. Or for Oklahoma State to come with OU to the SEC and T.C.U. to move with Texas Tech and Kansas State to the PAC.

If Texas goes ACC everything will get real interesting from there.

If Texas goes ACC and goes all in then I think Wake becomes an everything but football member and schedules North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, N.C. State and Clemson/N.C. State as their 5 conference games. That's all they want anyway. Notre Dame and Texas would then make 15 full members and Baylor would make it 16.

ACC:
Baylor, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Texas
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Clemson
Boston College, Miami, Notre Dame, Syracuse
Louisville, Pitt, Virginia, Virginia Tech

SEC:
Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma
Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina

Who goes Big 10 or PAC? We don't care.

If we have to account for 8 to get it done then:

ACC:
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, Louisville, West Virginia
Boston College, Duke, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia
Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U.
*Wake Forest: everything but football
SEC:
Kentucky, South Carolina, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana State, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas A&M

If Texahoma makes it to the PAC and if we assume that the B1G still takes Kansas and Iowa State what does the SEC do? Baylor and West Virginia? The SEC needs another Texas team and Kentucky sure could use some help. That accounts for 8 of the 10 with TCU and K-State being left out.

Always trolling these days. When's the last time you truly participated in a constructive discussion?

It's sometimes hard to find constructive discussion instead of propaganda dissemination, kind of like trying to have a honest conversation with Joseph Goebbels.

You're the corporate guy, not me. Goebbels was the father of Political Correctness. If he had been born in North Carolina he would have been a Ram's Club member. As for me I still believe in the power of individual effort and original thought. I like the Marine Corps mantra when faced with adversity, "Adapt, Innovate, Overcome".

Besides there is a bigger agenda afoot than mere SEC/ACC woofing and it's not even football related.

Entrepreneurial JR., not corporate.

(08-25-2015 07:08 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 10:21 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 08:50 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 06:33 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 03:06 PM)XLance Wrote:  If Texahoma makes it to the PAC and if we assume that the B1G still takes Kansas and Iowa State what does the SEC do? Baylor and West Virginia? The SEC needs another Texas team and Kentucky sure could use some help. That accounts for 8 of the 10 with TCU and K-State being left out.

You are actually assuming that The Big Ten will take Iowa State?

H1 you have actually confessed that the B1G would take Iowa State in a thread on LandThieves.

I have confessed that as a last resort to save the school from falling to a lower conference, The Big Ten would take them. That is a whole lot different from saying that Iowa State will end up in The Big Ten. What's funny is that you cannot tell the difference.

It might be helpful if you were to catalog your posts then you wouldn't embarrass yourself.

Not embarrassed at all by your lack of ability to comprehend what I just told you. Sorry, I don't care at all if you are an idiot.

(08-25-2015 07:52 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 07:08 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 10:21 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 08:50 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 06:33 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  You are actually assuming that The Big Ten will take Iowa State?

H1 you have actually confessed that the B1G would take Iowa State in a thread on LandThieves.

I have confessed that as a last resort to save the school from falling to a lower conference, The Big Ten would take them. That is a whole lot different from saying that Iowa State will end up in The Big Ten. What's funny is that you cannot tell the difference.

It might be helpful if you were to catalog your posts then you wouldn't embarrass yourself.

Not embarrassed at all by your lack of ability to comprehend what I just told you. Sorry, I don't care at all if you are an idiot.

Now you have embarrassed yourself again. It takes a real man to call someone names on an internet message board.

(08-25-2015 04:04 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 07:52 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 07:08 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 10:21 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 08:50 PM)XLance Wrote:  H1 you have actually confessed that the B1G would take Iowa State in a thread on LandThieves.

I have confessed that as a last resort to save the school from falling to a lower conference, The Big Ten would take them. That is a whole lot different from saying that Iowa State will end up in The Big Ten. What's funny is that you cannot tell the difference.

It might be helpful if you were to catalog your posts then you wouldn't embarrass yourself.

Not embarrassed at all by your lack of ability to comprehend what I just told you. Sorry, I don't care at all if you are an idiot.

Now you have embarrassed yourself again. It takes a real man to call someone names on an internet message board.

Mild jibing is one thing, but the name calling does need to go. At least on this board.

(08-25-2015 04:04 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 07:52 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 07:08 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 10:21 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 08:50 PM)XLance Wrote:  H1 you have actually confessed that the B1G would take Iowa State in a thread on LandThieves.

I have confessed that as a last resort to save the school from falling to a lower conference, The Big Ten would take them. That is a whole lot different from saying that Iowa State will end up in The Big Ten. What's funny is that you cannot tell the difference.

It might be helpful if you were to catalog your posts then you wouldn't embarrass yourself.

Not embarrassed at all by your lack of ability to comprehend what I just told you. Sorry, I don't care at all if you are an idiot.

Now you have embarrassed yourself again. It takes a real man to call someone names on an internet message board.

Once again, not embarrassed at all simply because you say I should be. Your ineptitude is not an embarrassment for me. Obviously it is not an embarrassment for you either. Perhaps you should be quoting and posting to yourself.

I guess it takes a real man to say to another man on a message board that he isn't a real man?

You are just proving my point with this ineptitude mixed with hypocrisy.

(08-25-2015 04:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 04:04 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 07:52 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 07:08 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-24-2015 10:21 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I have confessed that as a last resort to save the school from falling to a lower conference, The Big Ten would take them. That is a whole lot different from saying that Iowa State will end up in The Big Ten. What's funny is that you cannot tell the difference.

It might be helpful if you were to catalog your posts then you wouldn't embarrass yourself.

Not embarrassed at all by your lack of ability to comprehend what I just told you. Sorry, I don't care at all if you are an idiot.

Now you have embarrassed yourself again. It takes a real man to call someone names on an internet message board.

Mild jibing is one thing, but the name calling does need to go. At least on this board.

It's not name calling when it's deserved. He is taking my post from Landthieves well out of context and you know that JR. He is being an idiot. If he is so sensitive to that then perhaps he should amend himself rather than trying to tell other people what they mean with their posts....like an idiot.

(08-25-2015 05:27 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 04:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 04:04 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 07:52 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 07:08 AM)XLance Wrote:  It might be helpful if you were to catalog your posts then you wouldn't embarrass yourself.

Not embarrassed at all by your lack of ability to comprehend what I just told you. Sorry, I don't care at all if you are an idiot.

Now you have embarrassed yourself again. It takes a real man to call someone names on an internet message board.

Mild jibing is one thing, but the name calling does need to go. At least on this board.

It's not name calling when it's deserved. He is taking my post from Landthieves well out of context and you know that JR. He is being an idiot. If he is so sensitive to that then perhaps he should amend himself rather than trying to tell other people what they mean with their posts....like an idiot.

You can hold somebody accountable without resorting to ad hominems. That's the point.

(08-25-2015 05:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 05:27 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 04:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 04:04 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 07:52 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Not embarrassed at all by your lack of ability to comprehend what I just told you. Sorry, I don't care at all if you are an idiot.

Now you have embarrassed yourself again. It takes a real man to call someone names on an internet message board.

Mild jibing is one thing, but the name calling does need to go. At least on this board.

It's not name calling when it's deserved. He is taking my post from Landthieves well out of context and you know that JR. He is being an idiot. If he is so sensitive to that then perhaps he should amend himself rather than trying to tell other people what they mean with their posts....like an idiot.

You can hold somebody accountable without resorting to ad hominems. That's the point.

I don't see it as an ad hom. The name is based upon his actions its not just randomly slung at him. You know the context of my Iowa State statement over on Landthieves TO an Iowa State fan. If you want to defend the troll then go right ahead but he deserves the name with his actions here and you know it.

There is no difference with calling someone an idiot and telling someone they should be embarrassed by themselves or "calling out their manhood". So how about you be smart about this instead of coddling the cry baby.

(08-23-2015 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  By appeasing the obviously #2 network H1 is referring to the oft cited additions of Kansas (which doesn't add much in terms of revenue to the Big 10) and Oklahoma (who isn't close to being AAU). So to appease FOX the Big 10 must take a school that is not nearly as profitable for them as a school to the east, and accept what will immediately be the 16th best academic school in the Big 10 (and the only one never to have been AAU).

Furthermore, Oklahoma has to want to go to the Big 10 without Texas and without Oklahoma State and then agree to a 9 game conference schedule where their two chief rivals will have to be 2/3rds of the OOC games leaving their only patsy for homecoming. Yep that scenario sure looks to be inevitable!? Then realignment can progress.

What's more likely to happen is that the Big 12 plays another year and maybe by this time next year Oklahoma will have announced that they are headed to the SEC with either Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor or West Virginia. Why? Because no matter what Frank says OU is not AAU and the Big 10 presidents have an agenda pertaining to AAU that is more important to them than landing OU, and I doubt OU wants to go to a conference where they are dead last in academics.

In all likelihood the SEC lands Oklahoma. If not Texahoma to the PAC is still hanging out there where both ESPN and FOX retain exactly the same relationship with those schools that they have right now.

If OU goes SEC I do look for Texas to go PAC with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State. West Virginia goes ACC. Kansas and Iowa State go Big 10. And Baylor joins OU in the SEC. Or for Oklahoma State to come with OU to the SEC and T.C.U. to move with Texas Tech and Kansas State to the PAC.

I have thought for some time that one possibility would be each of the surviving power conferences picking up a flagship school from the Big 12 and take some schools they wouldn't otherwise take, not because of some backroom deal but because of the reality of geography, academic requirements, sports, intrastate politics, etc.. That's why I wouldn't rule out your scenario. The SEC would be most likely to take the Oklahoma schools as a pair, although still not above 50% in likelihood. However, it would make partitioning the Big 12 much easier.

Also, in the latest ARWU US Rankings, Iowa State is at the 66-78 level and Kansas is at the 79-102, which is where Nebraska is.

http://www.shanghairanking.com/World-Uni...5/USA.html

Both OU and Texas Tech are at the 126-146 level. I doubt the Big Ten would take Tech and OU is more hampered by Bedlam than what people think. Tech and Texas would go as a pair to the PAC if they go together. That would help to maintain the RRR as an OOC game. Keeping Bedlam and RRR would turn it in favor of the SEC for OU, all things being equal.

Delany would have to make a massively compelling offer to counteract that.

(08-25-2015 11:45 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  

(08-23-2015 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  By appeasing the obviously #2 network H1 is referring to the oft cited additions of Kansas (which doesn't add much in terms of revenue to the Big 10) and Oklahoma (who isn't close to being AAU). So to appease FOX the Big 10 must take a school that is not nearly as profitable for them as a school to the east, and accept what will immediately be the 16th best academic school in the Big 10 (and the only one never to have been AAU).

Furthermore, Oklahoma has to want to go to the Big 10 without Texas and without Oklahoma State and then agree to a 9 game conference schedule where their two chief rivals will have to be 2/3rds of the OOC games leaving their only patsy for homecoming. Yep that scenario sure looks to be inevitable!? Then realignment can progress.

What's more likely to happen is that the Big 12 plays another year and maybe by this time next year Oklahoma will have announced that they are headed to the SEC with either Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor or West Virginia. Why? Because no matter what Frank says OU is not AAU and the Big 10 presidents have an agenda pertaining to AAU that is more important to them than landing OU, and I doubt OU wants to go to a conference where they are dead last in academics.

In all likelihood the SEC lands Oklahoma. If not Texahoma to the PAC is still hanging out there where both ESPN and FOX retain exactly the same relationship with those schools that they have right now.

If OU goes SEC I do look for Texas to go PAC with Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State. West Virginia goes ACC. Kansas and Iowa State go Big 10. And Baylor joins OU in the SEC. Or for Oklahoma State to come with OU to the SEC and T.C.U. to move with Texas Tech and Kansas State to the PAC.

I have thought for some time that one possibility would be each of the surviving power conferences picking up a flagship school from the Big 12 and take some schools they wouldn't otherwise take, not because of some backroom deal but because of the reality of geography, academic requirements, sports, intrastate politics, etc.. That's why I wouldn't rule out your scenario. The SEC would be most likely to take the Oklahoma schools as a pair, although still not above 50% in likelihood. However, it would make partitioning the Big 12 much easier.

Also, in the latest ARWU US Rankings, Iowa State is at the 66-78 level and Kansas is at the 79-102, which is where Nebraska is.

http://www.shanghairanking.com/World-Uni...5/USA.html

Both OU and Texas Tech are at the 126-146 level. I doubt the Big Ten would take Tech and OU is more hampered by Bedlam than what people think. Tech and Texas would go as a pair to the PAC if they go together. That would help to maintain the RRR as an OOC game. Keeping Bedlam and RRR would turn it in favor of the SEC for OU, all things being equal.

Delany would have to make a massively compelling offer to counteract that.

And even if he did make a massively compelling offer, would OU want to go by themselves? Even with Kansas they aren't with compelling friends. And would OU want the distinction of being the lowest rated school academically in the conference? There is a lot to have to have consider here.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/di...eep-844007

The time/money pressure theory seems to apply here. If this trend accelerates, which is possible, we could have a situation where Disney would find it impossible to hold on to the properties they have now. Already they've let go of the motorsports rights to other companies.

To me, they grossly overestimated their market power when it comes to using the cable/satellite model to exact greater profits. The contracts for MLB and Monday Night Football continue to baffle me. College sports are relatively cheap compared to those two but even there there may be a real need to make cuts or ship off a few rights to other venues.

The Big Ten rights will be a major test of this new emerging reality. Does Disney decide to pull back or reduce themselves to only the marquee games to save money? Do they start subleasing more football games like they do with basketball?

Whatever happens there might be repercussions to the conferences years down the road. Knowing how political college administrators are they may tell AD's that there won't be as much of an increase in funds as in the past. Less money in increases may mean a deflationary effect on salaries. At least in theory. Human doesn't follow theory. College sports have a mind of its own. No where else would there be a booster campaign to pay a man $20 million to not coach a team.

Still, there may be more programs in the future looking to cut salaries than raise them if the media trends hold. That will surely going to have a great effect on the composition of CFB.