It would be hard to imagine that the ACC would add any school that was not located in the Eastern Time Zone.
We should add Cincinnati and West Virginia, and let Notre Dame and Texas play as independent in football. Notre Dame and Texas would play ther other sports in the ACC. This would leave a 6 team Big 12 after Oklahoma and Kansas are plucked by the Big 10. And Texas goes independent in football. Game over for the Big 12! " And that is the way it is."
That would be nice for us/ACC. But Texas has responsibility for their little Texan brothers. Unless facing a very dire situation which is not now, Texas will do their best to keep Big 12 together.
It would be hard to imagine that the ACC would add any school that was not located in the Eastern Time Zone.
We should add Cincinnati and West Virginia, and let Notre Dame and Texas play as independent in football. Notre Dame and Texas would play ther other sports in the ACC...
If Cincinnati continues to step (as I think most of us assume they will) I give this a decent chance of actually happening. It could also be Cincinnati and UConn, though, or neither one.
I can still see WVU and Cincinnati if Big 12 Moves towards the West with BYU, BSU and Houston and releasing WVU out of the GOR.
It would be hard to imagine that the ACC would add any school that was not located in the Eastern Time Zone.
We should add Cincinnati and West Virginia, and let Notre Dame and Texas play as independent in football. Notre Dame and Texas would play ther other sports in the ACC...
If Cincinnati continues to step (as I think most of us assume they will) I give this a decent chance of actually happening. It could also be Cincinnati and UConn, though, or neither one.
I can still see WVU and Cincinnati if Big 12 Moves towards the West with BYU, BSU and Houston and releasing WVU out of the GOR.
in that case, the big12 should add Colorado State (great potential, good academics, great media markets), BYU (great media markets, national brand, good academics, good athletics) and Boise State (terrible academics and markets, but good athletics and ratings).
RE: So Notre Dame becomes ACC's 15th football school
It's very easy to imagine the ACC adding Central time zone Texas if Texas wanted in. It's also very easy to see OU come along. It's easy to see the ACC add KU along with those two, or any of TAMU, LSU, Alabama, etc if they wanted to join.
RE: So Notre Dame becomes ACC's 15th football school
Would be sweet as the first Mega Conference:
ACC North:
Boston College
Syracuse
Pitt
Cincinnati
West Virgina
Virginia Tech
Virginia
Louisville
Notre Dame
Miami
ACC South:
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Wake Forest
Duke
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Florida State
Kansas
Oklahoma
Texas
Big 10 adds Kansas State and Oklahoma State to reach 16. SEC adds Texas Tech and TCU to reach 16. PAC 12 missed the boat, so they add Baylor, Boise State, BYU and Nevada to reach 16.
We now have a P4 consisting of 68 teams.
(This post was last modified: 08-27-2015 10:24 PM by Wilkie01.)
(08-27-2015 10:23 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: Would be sweet as the first Mega Conference:
ACC North:
Boston College
Syracuse
Pitt
Cincinnati
West Virgina
Virginia Tech
Virginia
Louisville
Notre Dame
Miami
ACC South:
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Wake Forest
Duke
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Florida State
Kansas
Oklahoma
Texas
Big 10 adds Kansas State and Oklahoma State to reach 16. SEC adds Texas Tech and TCU to reach 16. PAC 12 missed the boat, so they add Baylor, Boise State, BYU and Nevada to reach 16.
We now have a P4 consisting of 68 teams.
Pretty good deal for ACC but I'd bet my 401k that the B1G would never even sniff at Kstate or Okie State, especially if their big brothers aren't part of the deal. Same with Ttech and TCU with the SEC. Their only hope is to be a tag along if the B12 fails.
(This post was last modified: 08-28-2015 06:21 AM by ren.hoek.)
RE: So Notre Dame becomes ACC's 15th football school
ACC North: Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Boston College, Virginia
ACC Midwest: Louisville, Notre Dame, Cincinnati, Virginia Tech
ACC North Carolina: Wake Forest, NC State, North Carolina, Duke
ACC South: Clemson, Florida State, Miami (FL), Georgia Tech
RE: So Notre Dame becomes ACC's 15th football school
Cincinnati and WV don't add anything except more mouths to feed. Get it through your heads. Why does everyone assume the Big XII would collapse if they lose schools? They have better bowl contracts than the American and would just take replacements from there.
(This post was last modified: 08-28-2015 10:10 AM by esayem.)
RE: So Notre Dame becomes ACC's 15th football school
(08-31-2015 10:27 AM)nole Wrote: VERY few schools would add value.
There aren't many revenue difference makers out there.
The Penn States, Texas, Notre Dame etc of the world.........those are the only types that would justify an add in the ACC
The schools mentioned on this board area almost always just dead weight adds.
as much fun as it is to entertain this scenario or that scenario, the bottom line is what you just said - the only additions that make any sense to the ACC are ND, PSU and Texas (with our without tagalongs). if ND decided to go all in, I suspect we would stay at 15 unless PSU or Texas wanted to join with ND. if and when deregulation passes, we don't need an even number anymore.
(This post was last modified: 08-31-2015 10:35 AM by ren.hoek.)
(08-31-2015 10:27 AM)nole Wrote: VERY few schools would add value.
There aren't many revenue difference makers out there.
The Penn States, Texas, Notre Dame etc of the world.........those are the only types that would justify an add in the ACC
The schools mentioned on this board area almost always just dead weight adds.
as much fun as it is to entertain this scenario or that scenario, the bottom line is what you just said - the only additions that make any sense to the ACC are ND, PSU and Texas (with our without tagalongs). if ND decided to go all in, I suspect we would stay at 15 unless PSU or Texas wanted to join with ND. if and when deregulation passes, we don't need an even number anymore.
RE: So Notre Dame becomes ACC's 15th football school
(08-31-2015 10:54 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:35 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:27 AM)nole Wrote: VERY few schools would add value.
There aren't many revenue difference makers out there.
The Penn States, Texas, Notre Dame etc of the world.........those are the only types that would justify an add in the ACC
The schools mentioned on this board area almost always just dead weight adds.
as much fun as it is to entertain this scenario or that scenario, the bottom line is what you just said - the only additions that make any sense to the ACC are ND, PSU and Texas (with our without tagalongs). if ND decided to go all in, I suspect we would stay at 15 unless PSU or Texas wanted to join with ND. if and when deregulation passes, we don't need an even number anymore.
Correct, 3x5 works pretty good.
ND, BC, Pitt, Cuse, Ville
FSU, Clemson, GT, Miami, VT
NC, Duke, NC St, WF, Virginia
I'm fine with this as long as the winner of the FSU division is guaranteed an ACC CG spot. The Crapbacco Road division is weaker than my pinky finger.
RE: So Notre Dame becomes ACC's 15th football school
(08-31-2015 12:04 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:54 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:35 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:27 AM)nole Wrote: VERY few schools would add value.
There aren't many revenue difference makers out there.
The Penn States, Texas, Notre Dame etc of the world.........those are the only types that would justify an add in the ACC
The schools mentioned on this board area almost always just dead weight adds.
as much fun as it is to entertain this scenario or that scenario, the bottom line is what you just said - the only additions that make any sense to the ACC are ND, PSU and Texas (with our without tagalongs). if ND decided to go all in, I suspect we would stay at 15 unless PSU or Texas wanted to join with ND. if and when deregulation passes, we don't need an even number anymore.
Correct, 3x5 works pretty good.
ND, BC, Pitt, Cuse, Ville
FSU, Clemson, GT, Miami, VT
NC, Duke, NC St, WF, Virginia
I'm fine with this as long as the winner of the FSU division is guaranteed an ACC CG spot. The Crapbacco Road division is weaker than my pinky finger.
deregulation does not mean 3 divisions, it means NO divisions.
RE: So Notre Dame becomes ACC's 15th football school
(08-31-2015 12:26 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:
(08-31-2015 12:04 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:54 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:35 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:27 AM)nole Wrote: VERY few schools would add value.
There aren't many revenue difference makers out there.
The Penn States, Texas, Notre Dame etc of the world.........those are the only types that would justify an add in the ACC
The schools mentioned on this board area almost always just dead weight adds.
as much fun as it is to entertain this scenario or that scenario, the bottom line is what you just said - the only additions that make any sense to the ACC are ND, PSU and Texas (with our without tagalongs). if ND decided to go all in, I suspect we would stay at 15 unless PSU or Texas wanted to join with ND. if and when deregulation passes, we don't need an even number anymore.
Correct, 3x5 works pretty good.
ND, BC, Pitt, Cuse, Ville
FSU, Clemson, GT, Miami, VT
NC, Duke, NC St, WF, Virginia
I'm fine with this as long as the winner of the FSU division is guaranteed an ACC CG spot. The Crapbacco Road division is weaker than my pinky finger.
deregulation does not mean 3 divisions, it means NO divisions.
We won't know what it means until somebody makes a decision about it.
RE: So Notre Dame becomes ACC's 15th football school
(08-31-2015 12:30 PM)ken d Wrote:
(08-31-2015 12:26 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:
(08-31-2015 12:04 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:54 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:35 AM)ren.hoek Wrote: as much fun as it is to entertain this scenario or that scenario, the bottom line is what you just said - the only additions that make any sense to the ACC are ND, PSU and Texas (with our without tagalongs). if ND decided to go all in, I suspect we would stay at 15 unless PSU or Texas wanted to join with ND. if and when deregulation passes, we don't need an even number anymore.
Correct, 3x5 works pretty good.
ND, BC, Pitt, Cuse, Ville
FSU, Clemson, GT, Miami, VT
NC, Duke, NC St, WF, Virginia
I'm fine with this as long as the winner of the FSU division is guaranteed an ACC CG spot. The Crapbacco Road division is weaker than my pinky finger.
deregulation does not mean 3 divisions, it means NO divisions.
We won't know what it means until somebody makes a decision about it.
my best guess...
WHEN deregulation passes, we'll continue with the status quo.
after that...
IF Notre Dame joins without a 16th, we'll go divisionless.
IF Notre Dame joins with a 16th, we'll go with 2 divisions with rotating pods of 4.
RE: So Notre Dame becomes ACC's 15th football school
(08-31-2015 12:04 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:54 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:35 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:
(08-31-2015 10:27 AM)nole Wrote: VERY few schools would add value.
There aren't many revenue difference makers out there.
The Penn States, Texas, Notre Dame etc of the world.........those are the only types that would justify an add in the ACC
The schools mentioned on this board area almost always just dead weight adds.
as much fun as it is to entertain this scenario or that scenario, the bottom line is what you just said - the only additions that make any sense to the ACC are ND, PSU and Texas (with our without tagalongs). if ND decided to go all in, I suspect we would stay at 15 unless PSU or Texas wanted to join with ND. if and when deregulation passes, we don't need an even number anymore.
Correct, 3x5 works pretty good.
ND, BC, Pitt, Cuse, Ville
FSU, Clemson, GT, Miami, VT
NC, Duke, NC St, WF, Virginia
I'm fine with this as long as the winner of the FSU division is guaranteed an ACC CG spot. The Crapbacco Road division is weaker than my pinky finger.
That's the problem with Florida State folks.......always thinking about themselves and never thinking about what is best for the Conference.
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So Notre Dame becomes ACC's 15th football school
