(09-24-2015 09:12 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:00 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:44 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:26 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Well, it happens with large crowds. It has nothing to do with their religion.

It's a very sad thing.

It happens repeatedly over there, seems like every year. When is the last time a stampede happened in the US that killed hundreds or thousands?

Hundreds of thousands? I thought it was 700.

Is 700 not "hundreds"? Your rush to defend makes you look foolish when you can't take time to read.

My bad. I thought you said hundreds OF thousands.

(09-24-2015 08:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:51 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:44 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:26 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Well, it happens with large crowds. It has nothing to do with their religion.

It's a very sad thing.

It happens repeatedly over there, seems like every year. When is the last time a stampede happened in the US that killed hundreds or thousands?

Well we do have Black Friday annually. But anyone with a brain stays home. I guess if the whole country went to Walmart we could see similar results.

What kind of person tramples others on their way to pray? It's a completely lack of common sense, decency, and humanity.

It's not like the people are stomping on them on purpose. Someone falls down, people behind you keep pushing you forward and it's either walk or fall down and get trampled yourself. You don't have much control over the situation.

(09-24-2015 09:34 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:51 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:44 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:26 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Well, it happens with large crowds. It has nothing to do with their religion.

It's a very sad thing.

It happens repeatedly over there, seems like every year. When is the last time a stampede happened in the US that killed hundreds or thousands?

Well we do have Black Friday annually. But anyone with a brain stays home. I guess if the whole country went to Walmart we could see similar results.

What kind of person tramples others on their way to pray? It's a completely lack of common sense, decency, and humanity.

It's not like the people are stomping on them on purpose. Someone falls down, people behind you keep pushing you forward and it's either walk or fall down and get trampled yourself. You don't have much control over the situation.

The same thing happens at American Rock Concerts.

(09-24-2015 08:54 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:26 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Well, it happens with large crowds. It has nothing to do with their religion.

It's a very sad thing.

That's a curious thing to say for two reasons - one it's a direct consequence of one of the pillars of Islam - that every Muslim that can afford to do so, make the Hajj. Two, the lack of prioritizing safety is endemic to Muslim society, at least in part to reliance on dogma and belief in destiny. There is a confluence of greed and acceptance of Saudi authority that is also in play, but I think it's fair to put at least some of the blame on religion. I am confident that safety measures would be a higher priority for similar ritual in the west than they would be in Saudi Arabia... money is almost certainly not a factor.

I wouldn't say that. So, you and I aren't exactly on the same footing given my comment.

(09-24-2015 09:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:34 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:51 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:44 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  It happens repeatedly over there, seems like every year. When is the last time a stampede happened in the US that killed hundreds or thousands?

Well we do have Black Friday annually. But anyone with a brain stays home. I guess if the whole country went to Walmart we could see similar results.

What kind of person tramples others on their way to pray? It's a completely lack of common sense, decency, and humanity.

It's not like the people are stomping on them on purpose. Someone falls down, people behind you keep pushing you forward and it's either walk or fall down and get trampled yourself. You don't have much control over the situation.

The same thing happens at American Rock Concerts.

Not really. The last big one was The Who over 30 years ago. Lots of things have changed. But you wouldn't know that

(09-24-2015 09:34 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:51 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:44 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:26 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Well, it happens with large crowds. It has nothing to do with their religion.

It's a very sad thing.

It happens repeatedly over there, seems like every year. When is the last time a stampede happened in the US that killed hundreds or thousands?

Well we do have Black Friday annually. But anyone with a brain stays home. I guess if the whole country went to Walmart we could see similar results.

What kind of person tramples others on their way to pray? It's a completely lack of common sense, decency, and humanity.

It's not like the people are stomping on them on purpose. Someone falls down, people behind you keep pushing you forward and it's either walk or fall down and get trampled yourself. You don't have much control over the situation.

Yep, and something like 15 million visit Mecca each year. That is a crap ton of people at one time.

(09-24-2015 10:05 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:34 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:51 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:44 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  It happens repeatedly over there, seems like every year. When is the last time a stampede happened in the US that killed hundreds or thousands?

Well we do have Black Friday annually. But anyone with a brain stays home. I guess if the whole country went to Walmart we could see similar results.

What kind of person tramples others on their way to pray? It's a completely lack of common sense, decency, and humanity.

It's not like the people are stomping on them on purpose. Someone falls down, people behind you keep pushing you forward and it's either walk or fall down and get trampled yourself. You don't have much control over the situation.

Yep, and something like 15 million visit Mecca each year. That is a crap ton of people at one time.

Yeah they are very dedicated to their religion.

(09-24-2015 10:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 10:05 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:34 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:51 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  Well we do have Black Friday annually. But anyone with a brain stays home. I guess if the whole country went to Walmart we could see similar results.

What kind of person tramples others on their way to pray? It's a completely lack of common sense, decency, and humanity.

It's not like the people are stomping on them on purpose. Someone falls down, people behind you keep pushing you forward and it's either walk or fall down and get trampled yourself. You don't have much control over the situation.

Yep, and something like 15 million visit Mecca each year. That is a crap ton of people at one time.

Yeah they are very dedicated to their religion.

Well, it is one of the pillars, although not mandatory.

(09-24-2015 10:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 10:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 10:05 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:34 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  What kind of person tramples others on their way to pray? It's a completely lack of common sense, decency, and humanity.

It's not like the people are stomping on them on purpose. Someone falls down, people behind you keep pushing you forward and it's either walk or fall down and get trampled yourself. You don't have much control over the situation.

Yep, and something like 15 million visit Mecca each year. That is a crap ton of people at one time.

Yeah they are very dedicated to their religion.

Well, it is one of the pillars, although not mandatory.

That's interesting. Kind of like the 7 sacraments of Catholicism.

Why am I not surprised you don't know about the 5 Pillars of Islam.

Could there possibly be a clearer sign as to the barbarism and total disregard for human life that is on constant display from this religion.....I mean....it was at their "most holiest site" during one of their most holy days. 717 people trampled to death.

I mean.....smh....sigh...wtf.....

(09-24-2015 11:33 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Could there possibly be a clearer sign as to the barbarism and total disregard for human life that is on constant display from this religion.....I mean....it was at their "most holiest site" during one of their most holy days. 717 people trampled to death.

I mean.....smh....sigh...wtf.....

It is indeed a different mindset

Clearly what happened was an accident. If we want to talk about total disregard for human life however, how about the people who are using this tragedy to criticize a religion rather than have sympathy for the deaths.

(09-24-2015 12:46 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Clearly what happened was an accident. If we want to talk about total disregard for human life however, how about the people who are using this tragedy to criticize a religion rather than have sympathy for the deaths.

I know what you mean. It's good that liberals never take an opportunity to criticize a whole group of people (i.e. Christians, Southerners, Caucasians, Conservatives) for the actions of an individual.

(09-24-2015 12:46 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Clearly what happened was an accident. If we want to talk about total disregard for human life however, how about the people who are using this tragedy to criticize a religion rather than have sympathy for the deaths.

It is possible to be sympathetic towards those that died and be critical as to the circumstances at the same time.

(09-24-2015 12:50 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 12:46 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Clearly what happened was an accident. If we want to talk about total disregard for human life however, how about the people who are using this tragedy to criticize a religion rather than have sympathy for the deaths.

I know what you mean. It's good that liberals never take an opportunity to criticize a whole group of people (i.e. Christians, Southerners, Caucasians, Conservatives) for the actions of an individual.

You mean like the thread about Ann Coulters statement?

(09-24-2015 09:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:34 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:51 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:44 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  It happens repeatedly over there, seems like every year. When is the last time a stampede happened in the US that killed hundreds or thousands?

Well we do have Black Friday annually. But anyone with a brain stays home. I guess if the whole country went to Walmart we could see similar results.

What kind of person tramples others on their way to pray? It's a completely lack of common sense, decency, and humanity.

It's not like the people are stomping on them on purpose. Someone falls down, people behind you keep pushing you forward and it's either walk or fall down and get trampled yourself. You don't have much control over the situation.

The same thing happens at American Rock Concerts.

So show us the last time 700 people died at an American rock concert.

largest death by stampede in the US is 73

(09-24-2015 12:58 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:35 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 09:34 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:54 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 08:51 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  Well we do have Black Friday annually. But anyone with a brain stays home. I guess if the whole country went to Walmart we could see similar results.

What kind of person tramples others on their way to pray? It's a completely lack of common sense, decency, and humanity.

It's not like the people are stomping on them on purpose. Someone falls down, people behind you keep pushing you forward and it's either walk or fall down and get trampled yourself. You don't have much control over the situation.

The same thing happens at American Rock Concerts.

So show us the last time 700 people died at an American rock concert.

So that I can research this properly, how many people were at this event?

(09-24-2015 11:33 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Could there possibly be a clearer sign as to the barbarism and total disregard for human life that is on constant display from this religion.....I mean....it was at their "most holiest site" during one of their most holy days. 717 people trampled to death.

I mean.....smh....sigh...wtf.....

That's pushing it a little, at least IMHO. It's not like they set out to kill each other.