The Houston win kept the AAC from being a complete embarassment. 2-7 is a record that conference would soon like to forget. 0-3 vs CUSA & the MAC.

(01-01-2016 02:57 AM)Policiious Wrote:  The Houston win kept the AAC from being a complete embarassment. 2-7 is a record that conference would soon like to forget. 0-3 vs CUSA & the MAC.

K, no one cares about those other conferences you mentioned, except that every freaking team would kill to be in the AAC.

(01-01-2016 02:57 AM)Policiious Wrote:  The Houston win kept the AAC from being a complete embarassment. 2-7 is a record that conference would soon like to forget. 0-3 vs CUSA & the MAC.

Do you remember the Big 10 bowl record 3 years ago? Yeah, I don't either.

In two weeks no one will care or remember the AAC bowl record.

(12-31-2015 11:40 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 11:00 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 08:44 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 08:35 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:27 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Truth is, the Peach Bowl doesn't matter either.

And you are as predictable and boring as ever.

More towards quo...CBS article says otherwise with the Cougars:

Houston proves it's one of nation's best with win over FSU in Peach Bowl
By Robby Kalland | Staff Writer

December 31, 2015 3:58 pm ET

Houston was a 6.5-point underdog to Florida State in the Peach Bowl, but the Cougars proved they can compete with the nation's best teams with a 31-24 victory over the Seminoles on Thursday in Atlanta.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...peach-bowl

Houston will move up in the rankings and get accolades and deservedely so.

But the Peach win does little or nothing for the AAC.

Well, unless you're in the CFP none of the bowls really matter when it comes down to it. Again, if Houston would've lost or was crushed by FSU, then I can only imagine the venom spewed forth toward the AAC. To put it this way, I think there was far more to lose for the AAC had Houston lost than what was gained from the win. Nevertheless, the AAC champ ranked 18th took down the #3 ACC team ranked 9th. That's pretty good conference perception-wise.

Objectively: The AAC was 2-6 in bowl games, that's just terrible. Houston beat the 3rd-best team in the ACC to win the Peach Bowl, that is a good accomplishment, a nice feather in their cap.

Subjectively: The AAC suffered from unfortunate scheduling, as all of the attention today was on the playoff games. The Peach was less than an afterthought, so there won't be much "shine" for the conference about this. It was about story #5 on Sportscenter this morning.

(12-31-2015 07:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 05:49 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 04:29 PM)Maize Wrote:  The AAC won the only Bowl that truly matter....The Peach Bowl...

This.

The AAC really needed the Houston and Navy wins. They got them.
The other bowls were window dressing.

2-6 is 2-6, no dressing up that pig. Houston was outstanding, but the AAC was dreadful this bowl season.

The AAC bowl record was bad. That said, the matchups were such that I think we were not favored in but one or two bowls---so a winning record in the bowls for the AAC would have required the AAC to play way over their heads On the whole, we certainly didn't play over our heads in the bowl season. If anything, the conference seemed to look almost unprepared in a couple of games. A couple more we played close but couldn't close the deal. Maybe next year we do better. At least two of our top teams looked good closing out the year.

But, enough gloom. The reality is---the goal for the season was to be the top rated G5 and have our champ capture and win the access bowl. Mission accomplished. The bowl that mattered most for that perception was the Peach. It would have been nice to have had a winning record across the board, but being 2-0 in access/BCS bowls as a conference is more important. We will finish with at least 2 ranked teams and maybe even one in the top 10.

Very sensible post. I would take issue with two things. First, and again this isn't directed at you, your reasonable perspective expressed in the first paragraph isn't consistent with the notion promulgated by Aresco and rabid AACers that the AAC is a tweener league or even quasi-power league. If the AAC was clearly separate and above the other G5, then 8-5 AAC teams shouldn't be complaining that it is unfair to expect them to beat 10-win C-USA and Sun Belt teams. but that's basically been the party line this bowl season once the losses piled up. It's a much more humble and realistic line than the chest-thumping about tweener/power that dominated this season.

As for the Peach, this win is great for Houston but not sure what it does for the AAC. Objectively, this win wasn't equivalent to say Boise beating Oklahoma 10 years ago. Back then, when a G5 beat a P5, they were usually beating their conference champ. Even UCF beat Big 12 champ Baylor. But FSU finished 3rd in the ACC, and the ACC was easily the worst of the P5 conferences. Second, subjectively, the Peach is unlikely to do much perception-wise because coverage of it was swamped by the playoffs. Unfortunate scheduling.

Overall, about 90% of the "shine", such as there is, will go to Houston. Houston clearly has a very bright future, though if they have another season like this it will probably be impossible to keep their coach, as some MAJOR Power team, like an LSU or USC, will come calling with unmatchable dollars.

(01-01-2016 07:56 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 05:49 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 04:29 PM)Maize Wrote:  The AAC won the only Bowl that truly matter....The Peach Bowl...

This.

The AAC really needed the Houston and Navy wins. They got them.
The other bowls were window dressing.

2-6 is 2-6, no dressing up that pig. Houston was outstanding, but the AAC was dreadful this bowl season.

The AAC bowl record was bad. That said, the matchups were such that I think we were not favored in but one or two bowls---so a winning record in the bowls for the AAC would have required the AAC to play way over their heads On the whole, we certainly didn't play over our heads in the bowl season. If anything, the conference seemed to look almost unprepared in a couple of games. A couple more we played close but couldn't close the deal. Maybe next year we do better. At least two of our top teams looked good closing out the year.

But, enough gloom. The reality is---the goal for the season was to be the top rated G5 and have our champ capture and win the access bowl. Mission accomplished. The bowl that mattered most for that perception was the Peach. It would have been nice to have had a winning record across the board, but being 2-0 in access/BCS bowls as a conference is more important. We will finish with at least 2 ranked teams and maybe even one in the top 10.

Very sensible post. I would take issue with two things. First, and again this isn't directed at you, your reasonable perspective expressed in the first paragraph isn't consistent with the notion promulgated by Aresco and rabid AACers that the AAC is a tweener league or even quasi-power league. If the AAC was clearly separate and above the other G5, then 8-5 AAC teams shouldn't be complaining that it is unfair to expect them to beat 10-win C-USA and Sun Belt teams. but that's basically been the party line this bowl season once the losses piled up. It's a much more humble and realistic line than the chest-thumping about tweener/power that dominated this season.

As for the Peach, this win is great for Houston but not sure what it does for the AAC. Objectively, this win wasn't equivalent to say Boise beating Oklahoma 10 years ago. Back then, when a G5 beat a P5, they were usually beating their conference champ. Even UCF beat Big 12 champ Baylor. But FSU finished 3rd in the ACC, and the ACC was easily the worst of the P5 conferences. Second, subjectively, the Peach is unlikely to do much perception-wise because coverage of it was swamped by the playoffs. Unfortunate scheduling.

Overall, about 90% of the "shine", such as there is, will go to Houston. Houston clearly has a very bright future, though if they have another season like this it will probably be impossible to keep their coach, as some MAJOR Power team, like an LSU or USC, will come calling with unmatchable dollars.

A realistic appraisal, but a shade slightly on the negative/resigned side. In this age, money must be poured into Programs.

(01-01-2016 06:44 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 11:40 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 11:00 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Houston will move up in the rankings and get accolades and deservedely so.

But the Peach win does little or nothing for the AAC.

Well, unless you're in the CFP none of the bowls really matter when it comes down to it. Again, if Houston would've lost or was crushed by FSU, then I can only imagine the venom spewed forth toward the AAC. To put it this way, I think there was far more to lose for the AAC had Houston lost than what was gained from the win. Nevertheless, the AAC champ ranked 18th took down the #3 ACC team ranked 9th. That's pretty good conference perception-wise.

Objectively: The AAC was 2-6 in bowl games, that's just terrible. Houston beat the 3rd-best team in the ACC to win the Peach Bowl, that is a good accomplishment, a nice feather in their cap.

Subjectively: The AAC suffered from unfortunate scheduling, as all of the attention today was on the playoff games. The Peach was less than an afterthought, so there won't be much "shine" for the conference about this. It was about story #5 on Sportscenter this morning.

I don't think we are that far off based on what we are both saying. I think it is rather obvious that the G5 Access Bowl slot, and the G5 bowl tie-ins in general, are not "prime time" worthy or give many chances to "shine" on a national perspective to use your word. All that said, if you can't change these facts then at least do the best you can and take what little "light" you do get. Also, do you believe the P5 conferences "shine" from the TaxSlayer Bowl, Cactus Bowl, Alamo Bowl, etc? Many of the participating teams are not the top from their respective conferences. The only thing that really matters after the bowl season ends is who won the national championship. No one remembers or cares about all these other bowl games outside of the teams and their fans that played in their particular bowl.

(12-31-2015 07:27 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 04:29 PM)Maize Wrote:  The AAC won the only Bowl that truly matter....The Peach Bowl...

Truth is, the Peach Bowl doesn't matter either.

Truth is, nothing in the world of sports "matters". But people need diversions in life and sports is a good one. College football needs post-season bowl games and the Peach is a good one.

(01-01-2016 01:02 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:27 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 04:29 PM)Maize Wrote:  The AAC won the only Bowl that truly matter....The Peach Bowl...

Truth is, the Peach Bowl doesn't matter either.

Truth is, nothing in the world of sports "matters". But people need diversions in life and sports is a good one. College football needs post-season bowl games and the Peach is a good one.

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So at what point do we have huge thread about the B12 being paper champs, or is it exclusively the AAC that people want to jump all over?

(01-01-2016 02:12 PM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 01:02 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:27 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 04:29 PM)Maize Wrote:  The AAC won the only Bowl that truly matter....The Peach Bowl...

Truth is, the Peach Bowl doesn't matter either.

Truth is, nothing in the world of sports "matters". But people need diversions in life and sports is a good one. College football needs post-season bowl games and the Peach is a good one.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Completely agree with you on this...Sports for me is a diversion especially with what is going on in the world at large.