It appears that we may have many ACC teams headed at least slightly towards the middle compared to last season, both with top teams being down a bit and a few teams from the bottom third showing improvement. I suspect BC may be the exception, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a 2-16 type record for the Eagles.

I think the top teams are the same. The middle and the bottom (except BC) has gotten stronger. That means the top will have more losses.

ND has not gotten stronger, it is much weaker than last year.

(01-05-2016 02:13 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think the top teams are the same. The middle and the bottom (except BC) has gotten stronger. That means the top will have more losses.

I agree that the top 5 or so teams will end up the same as last year, except potentially trade out Notre Dame for Miami. My thought was the quality as a whole at the top has possibly slipped from last season to this year. I think we may have less records at the top and bottom extremes in league play.

Another way of thinking of it... I'll be surprised if the top 2 teams finish 16-2 and 15-3 this year like they did last spring.

(01-05-2016 03:06 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(01-05-2016 02:13 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think the top teams are the same. The middle and the bottom (except BC) has gotten stronger. That means the top will have more losses.

I agree that the top 5 or so teams will end up the same as last year, except potentially trade out Notre Dame for Miami. My thought was the quality as a whole at the top has possibly slipped from last season to this year. I think we may have less records at the top and bottom extremes in league play.

Another way of thinking of it... I'll be surprised if the top 2 teams finish 16-2 and 15-3 this year like they did last spring.

I think that is true, which in some ways makes conference play more exciting.

(01-05-2016 11:33 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 11:19 PM)Hitman Hart Wrote:  I'm actually pretty interested in seeing how Wake matches up with teams like VT, GT, Clemson and BC.

I'm not totally convinced yet that Wake has left the company of those schools at the bottom (especially since VT already has two conference wins)

VT is officially no longer a cellar dweller in ACC men's hoops!
(but probably still no threat to get a double-bye!)

congrats to VT for the win over UVa. The style of play that Buzz has implemented is difficult for UVa but VT was inordinately hot from the 3 point area. Not likely to happen again.

(01-03-2016 10:08 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Much respect WF

I know we won so that might seem hollow but I truly mean it. Our team is better for playing you and it was anybody's game. The thing is, I now have great expectations for your team. See y'all in the tourney!

WF future is bright, if they can keep Danny Manning.

(01-05-2016 04:18 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 10:08 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Much respect WF

I know we won so that might seem hollow but I truly mean it. Our team is better for playing you and it was anybody's game. The thing is, I now have great expectations for your team. See y'all in the tourney!

WF future is bright, if they can keep Danny Manning.

Wake is definitely trending up.

(01-05-2016 03:06 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(01-05-2016 02:13 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think the top teams are the same. The middle and the bottom (except BC) has gotten stronger. That means the top will have more losses.

I agree that the top 5 or so teams will end up the same as last year, except potentially trade out Notre Dame for Miami. My thought was the quality as a whole at the top has possibly slipped from last season to this year. I think we may have less records at the top and bottom extremes in league play.

Another way of thinking of it... I'll be surprised if the top 2 teams finish 16-2 and 15-3 this year like they did last spring.

Agreed..trade Notre Dame for Miami.

As I stated in my post, the top will have more losses. I can see the champ having as many as 5 losses.

(01-05-2016 04:18 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 10:08 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Much respect WF

I know we won so that might seem hollow but I truly mean it. Our team is better for playing you and it was anybody's game. The thing is, I now have great expectations for your team. See y'all in the tourney!

WF future is bright, if they can keep Danny Manning.

Wake's never had a problem keeping good coaches.

Odom turned down NC State and Prosser turned down both Pitt and Cincy (although, I'm not sure at how genuine Cincy's interest was)

Also, Manning grew up in Greensboro. While Manning was growing up, the Deacs played their ACC home games in Greensboro. Manning has mentioned several times that being the head coach of Wake is pretty much just him coming full circle in his life.

If he is successful, I don't think he leaves Wake unless Kansas (or potentially the NBA) comes calling.

1st time watching a game from the ACC app. Clemson and Cuse. Looks great!

Clemson starting to win some of the close ones. Cuse seemed like they hit every 3 point shot in 2nd half and overtime

Not a good team right now...FTs cost them the game. Congrats to Clemson. Orange will be lucky to be NIT.

Brownell is actually a pretty good coach. He always gets the most out of his team and has them playing hard for 40 minutes every night. His problem is landing/identifying talent. Maybe the upgrades that Clemson is making to their basketball facilities will help change that.

Syracuse may not make the NIT.

(01-05-2016 10:41 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Syracuse may not make the NIT.

Or the CBI. I would prefer that the team not go to any postseason tourney if they cant improve significantly. This was JB's last game ban. I doubt that the team improves much even with him on the sidelines.

I've always thought CLemson should do a small ball offense, have 5 guys out there who can shoot 3's. If a program has an offense like this for a few seasons then it will start attracting good shooters who like jacking 3's and playing in a guard oriented offense.

Clemson always tired to win with physical defense and it has only taken us to the big dance a few times in 20 years.

(01-03-2016 11:16 PM)Hitman Hart Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 10:33 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:17 PM)cavman Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 08:26 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  I'd say Miami is tops alongside UNC in the ACC at the moment. Good news for the Canes is we are hosting Duke this year.

Aren't you overlooking UVa who happens to be ranked higher than both right now? And some better news for UVa is they host both UNC and Miami at home this year. (By the way UVa dominated Notre Dame today).

IDK - they just haven't impressed me this year. UVA is certainly up there too. That game @ UVA will be a good barometer for the Canes.

Virginia probably has the best resume of any team in the ACC right now.

Aaaand they lose to VT.

(01-06-2016 01:32 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 11:16 PM)Hitman Hart Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 10:33 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:17 PM)cavman Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 08:26 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  I'd say Miami is tops alongside UNC in the ACC at the moment. Good news for the Canes is we are hosting Duke this year.

Aren't you overlooking UVa who happens to be ranked higher than both right now? And some better news for UVa is they host both UNC and Miami at home this year. (By the way UVa dominated Notre Dame today).

IDK - they just haven't impressed me this year. UVA is certainly up there too. That game @ UVA will be a good barometer for the Canes.

Virginia probably has the best resume of any team in the ACC right now.

Aaaand they lose to VT.

Upsets happen in conference play. The 2013 ACC Champion Miami team lost to a terrible Wake team coached by Jeff Bzdelik.

Still think UVa's wins over WVU and Villanova are the best pair of wins anyone has in the ACC right now. If UVA is able to bounce back from their loss against VT, then no one will remember it in March.

Just what I expected.

NIT team at best.