CUSA has been distributing $1.2M per year per school in TV money.

That is expected to drop by $500K, or over 40%.

Source

Wow, if Im doing my math correctly, CUSA per team income is expected to drop behind the MAC. MAC teams will earn about 833K a team under their renegotiated deal. CUSA schools make 1 million a year currently, but if that's dropping by 500K---then they will be looking at $500K per school annually in media revenue.

I had a feeling something like this was coming based on the overtures Rice and UTEP made to the MW and the rumored talks between CUSA and ASN (who have a very limited reach and pay very little or nothing for sports rights).

This puts CUSA and Sun Belt on equal footing. This is a huge blow for CUSa. Looks like the AAC is on its way to be a true tweener conference.

I think the MCW is next for a big reduction. Boise cannot sustain them and the West coast generally has poor college football ratings.

(01-12-2016 02:16 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  This puts CUSA and Sun Belt on equaline footing. This is a huge blow for CUSa. Looks like the AAC is on its way to be a true tweeter conference.

I think the MCW is next for a big reduction. BoI see cannot sustain them and the West coast generally has poor college football ratings.

MWC footprint only has 20% of the population and you have to stay up late to watch their games.

Just to clear up two posts above. C-USA will now make $670K per team (the same as the MAC, not less), and Sun Belt makes $100K per team. Far from equal footing.

Proceed to mocking our league though. Yes, it sucks.

I empathize with the schools in C-USA and frankly the MWC, MAC and Sunbelt as well.

The disparity in television revenue paid to the P5 conferences to what they are paying the G5 is criminal. I get the fact the P5 conferences have better TV ratings and larger fan bases, but not enough to justify paying one school $20-25M a year in a TV contract and the others only $100,000-$2M per year.

Wow, that's very surprising. Typically due to inflation alone you will see a small uptick in pay. I wonder what this means as far as our perceived value going forward. My hope has always been an increase in revenue (hoping to the tune of around 5 to 6 million per team). I wonder if that is a reasonable expectation.

(01-12-2016 02:31 PM)k-vegasbuc Wrote:  Wow, that's very surprising. Typically due to inflation alone you will see a small uptick in pay. I wonder what this means as far as our perceived value going forward. My hope has always been an increase in revenue (hoping to the tune of around 5 to 6 million per team). I wonder if that is a reasonable expectation.

I think 5 or 6 million is unrealistic for the AAC honestly just because they know they can get away with paying you less for being a G5 conference, but I can't imagine a scenario where you see a decrease.

(01-12-2016 02:31 PM)k-vegasbuc Wrote:  Wow, that's very surprising. Typically due to inflation alone you will see a small uptick in pay. I wonder what this means as far as our perceived value going forward. My hope has always been an increase in revenue (hoping to the tune of around 5 to 6 million per team). I wonder if that is a reasonable expectation.

ESPN has us by the balls (no pun intended). They are not going to voluntarily pay us more during the remainder of this contract. They are already losing money based on a variety of contracts they are in with the NFL, NBA, The Longhorn Network, etc. They are likely not getting a return on the ridiculous amount they are paying power conferences.

We are also screwed when the TV deal comes up. They are going to offer us peanuts because they know we either have to accept it or take the chance of going to another network like Fox or NBC that will not give us as great of exposure as we are currently getting.

Rough waters ahead. It will be very important for us to put up strong ratings these next few years.

(01-12-2016 02:48 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Rough waters ahead. It will be very important for us to put up strong ratings these next few years.

It's certainly not helping that what I thought would be our strength as a conference (basketball) isn't really lighting it up this year. We really need to be at least a 3 or 4 bid league every year.

(01-12-2016 02:24 PM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Just to clear up two posts above. C-USA will now make $670K per team (the same as the MAC, not less), and Sun Belt makes $100K per team. Far from equal footing.

Proceed to mocking our league though. Yes, it sucks.

the mac makes more

"Though MAC schools public records suggest annual payouts will start between $830,000 and $845,000 per school — eight times more than the previous deal."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watch...story.html

(01-12-2016 02:24 PM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Just to clear up two posts above. C-USA will now make $670K per team (the same as the MAC, not less), and Sun Belt makes $100K per team. Far from equal footing.

Proceed to mocking our league though. Yes, it sucks.

The MAC will be making about $833k per school.

Good Lord folks. So much misinformation here.

1) This contract means nothing to us. It didn't "go down". The truth is this is the first baseline market negotiated contract for the current CUSA membership. Given that the majority of CUSA is former Sunbelt (who earn about $20k a yr for media), WAC members (who earn much less than MAC schools), or FCS move ups (who earn nothing in media dollars), then the value is not surprising and represents a significant raise for most members compared to thier earnings in thier previous conference homes. Our deal is based on our current membership. No reason to expect a drop when we have actually proven to be a better product than was expected.

2) ESPN isn't losing money. Not even close. Thier earnings are just not hitting the Disney targets.

3). This deal has nothing to do with ESPN. It's a Fox/CBS deal.

(01-12-2016 02:48 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Rough waters ahead. It will be very important for us to put up strong ratings these next few years.

What makes you say this? The MAC deal is set to go up to 800k per school in 2017 and the Sun Belt's TV contract value would undoubtedly go up if it were renegotiated this year.

When the old CUSA TV deal was in place the CUSA had UCF, USF, ECU, Houston, Memphis, and Tulsa. Those teams left and CUSA expanded based upon media markets and not on actual athletic success and size of the fan bases. That's why the CUSA media deal is tanking, not because ESPN is in panic mode.

(01-12-2016 02:23 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 02:16 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  This puts CUSA and Sun Belt on equaline footing. This is a huge blow for CUSa. Looks like the AAC is on its way to be a true tweeter conference.

I think the MCW is next for a big reduction. BoI see cannot sustain them and the West coast generally has poor college football ratings.

MWC footprint only has 20% of the population and you have to stay up late to watch their games.

MWC teams control their markets, they aren't 2nd or 3rd fiddle to other teams. This was pretty much proven when the AAC added teams like Tulane hoping to get a better deal and in fact getting much less than expected

(01-12-2016 03:09 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 02:23 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 02:16 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  This puts CUSA and Sun Belt on equaline footing. This is a huge blow for CUSa. Looks like the AAC is on its way to be a true tweeter conference.

I think the MCW is next for a big reduction. BoI see cannot sustain them and the West coast generally has poor college football ratings.

MWC footprint only has 20% of the population and you have to stay up late to watch their games.

MWC teams control their markets, they aren't 2nd or 3rd fiddle to other teams. This was pretty much proven when the AAC added teams like Tulane hoping to get a better deal and in fact getting much less than expected

Is this a ****** joke or are you genuinely stupid?

(01-12-2016 02:24 PM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Just to clear up two posts above. C-USA will now make $670K per team (the same as the MAC, not less), and Sun Belt makes $100K per team. Far from equal footing.

Proceed to mocking our league though. Yes, it sucks.

We wouldn't stoop to mocking your little league. We're just mocking the programs in it.

(01-12-2016 03:06 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Good Lord folks. So much misinformation here.

1) This contract means nothing to us. It didn't "go down". The truth is this is the first baseline market negotiated contract for the current CUSA membership. Given that the majority of CUSA is former Sunbelt (who earn about $20k a yr for media), WAC members (who earn much less than MAC schools), or FCS move ups (who earn nothing in media dollars), then the value is not surprising and represents a significant raise for most members compared to thier earnings in thier previous conference homes. Our deal is based on our current membership. No reason to expect a drop when we have actually proven to be a better product than was expected.

2) ESPN isn't losing money. Not even close. Thier earnings are just not hitting the Disney targets.

3). This deal has nothing to do with ESPN. It's a Fox/CBS deal.

This.

(01-12-2016 03:13 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 03:09 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 02:23 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 02:16 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  This puts CUSA and Sun Belt on equaline footing. This is a huge blow for CUSa. Looks like the AAC is on its way to be a true tweeter conference.

I think the MCW is next for a big reduction. BoI see cannot sustain them and the West coast generally has poor college football ratings.

MWC footprint only has 20% of the population and you have to stay up late to watch their games.

MWC teams control their markets, they aren't 2nd or 3rd fiddle to other teams. This was pretty much proven when the AAC added teams like Tulane hoping to get a better deal and in fact getting much less than expected

Is this a ****** joke or are you genuinely stupid?

What other conference out there lost BCS status and went from projected 10 million per year, down to hopping to get 5-6 with sdsu and bsu, to settling for 2? I can't think of any that dropped that far. By the rational above when talking about cusa becoming the sun belt, the AAC became cusa. It is what it is.