(01-16-2016 09:45 PM)Dasville Wrote: LP4, please resolve the Yow issue regarding your statements if you want to.
? Huh
For any school stuck in a division with at least two perennial powers, or with a steady stream of top 10 talent, you don't have much of a chance to move up and there are several reasons:
1. The conference controls your schedule. When FSU was building their program, they played a lot of high profile games but they had control of their own schedule - they didn't get 8 games in a row without a break and play their toughest conference opponents back, to back, to back, to back. That matters where your talent level is less than your opponents.
2. You are naturally going to lose any head to head recruiting battle with those powers. If you are located in the deep south that can be overcome by an overwhelming amount of talent in your state. That's a problem north of North Carolina/Va line. As you know there are 5 major programs in NC, and 2 in Va, in Georgia, 1 in Tennessee, and 2 in SC. That's 10 programs fishing in the same fishin' hole.
3. To win the Atlantic, you will have to beat Clemson AND FSU in the same year and then not stumble at WF. Coaching helps, but that takes talent for the foreseeable future. FSU slipped for half a decade when BB was allowed to stay too long. Clemson slipped for twenty years as they fought over a direction to go following Ford's ouster.
4. The distance in the Coastal between the best two teams and the rest of the division is impossible to see. Who has the better
program? right now, Miami, UNC, Duke, VT, Pitt, GT? The only sure dog in the division is Virginia and they have shown signs of life as when they beat Louisville last year. In the Atlantic the drop off after Clemson and FSU is huge. Then comes Louisville and NC State, then comes Syracuse, BC, and Wake. This is why the ACC title game is always a worry every year, will the Coastal team be a stinker - they are a stinker about every third year, while the Atlantic team is not.
5. One of the real problems with the ACC is the geographic disparity in football - greater than in any other P-5. Only an east/west split bridges that problem - something akin to a zipper, but that doesn't change the fact that neither FSU or Clemson want to play anyone north of Virginia.
Das-let me know about how you feel about the Atlantic in five more years after Clemson and FSU lay about 8 losses on you. It might make you pine for the old Big East.