Never never to the MAC. They have too many garbage teams, and I'd rather not play on TV than play on Tuesdays and Wednesdays for a month. Would love to have Ohio, NIU, or Toledo join us, but that's not gonna happen.

C-USA does have too many teams. And too many teams with no fan support. And we're too spread out.

In a perfect world, I'd like to drop the Florida teams, wish the Texas teams best of luck in the MWC, and add Georgia Southern and Appy, but that's probably never going to happen.

(01-15-2016 12:22 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  Then we need to drop to 12 and CUSA needs to put USM and Louisiana Tech on MU's schedule as much as possible. Also, of the 12 left, need to start looking at replacing some programs with possibly Arkansas State, Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, Georgia State, and Texas State. The "markets" strategy was a failure like we all knew since day one so let's undo that and get it right like should've been done to begin with.

College football is supposed to be fun, CUSA east isn't fun. Next year Marshall plays Louisville, Pitt, USM, and who ever else. Win or lose the Herd is playing the same old bowl game in Florida against another MAC or AAC school.

two things....I wish we were in the east along with Tech and sans the foos....I'd run with that along with arky st all day long

...and if you guys win out, you won't have to play in that florida bowl....if you guys beat ul, pitt, and the rest, it's a gimmee who gets the access bid....

I wish we could just blow up all the G5 conferences and re-form based on region and competitiveness. All the G5 conferences fighting to be the best will only result in 5 mostly crap conferences. Why can't we all just get a long and work together as a unit.

(01-15-2016 09:36 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Not going back to the MAC. This is the first time i have ever said it, for rhe record. I am not a MAC troll. I have been the staunchest defender of the cusa move you will ever see and when we made much more frm TV, it made sense.

But now? MAC has better tv exposure with espn. No more worrying about finding the channel with espn3 for EVERY GAME. And the MAC will pay better.

Competition - The mac was better than cusa last year. Has schools that are established. No difference in competition.

Travel - about every MAC game is a pretty easy drive. Awesme for our fans. Not to mention the history we have with those teams. Plus we save a ton on travel that is no longer offset with greater tv revenue.

Access bowl - MAC gives us better exposure and just as good or better competition. Undefeated there or here, and we are in, or a serious contender, just the same.

Now, I know many are going to talk about tuesday night games. But really? We don't have night games hardly ever now and they are awesome to have at the joan. Attendance will not suffer as much as many would think. We play on thursday occasionally and every black friday at noon now, and thats a terrible time slot.

I am not seeing any reason to stay in CUSA. The MAC now offers more, than CUSA does, and that may be tough to hear and accept, but it is true.

Don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.

(01-15-2016 12:19 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  PANIC will only worsen the situation.Just play MORE OOC games with close MAC members(in all sports).

Can't waste football OOC games on the MAC with a CUSA east schedule. Playing Ohio U, Toledo, Bowling Green, NIU, and Miami OH in conference and a strong OOC is a better fit now. It is what it is. No reason to stay. It makes total sense for MU now the money is gone and theres less exposure in CUSA. Only catch is MU needs to play home games on Saturday and that popped up the idea of Indy.

I watch Marshall on Regional cable anyways. If they were in the MAC I could atleast watch games i miss because of work and also basketball games on the ESPN app on my Roku. Hell, even drive to away games I have off.

(01-15-2016 10:38 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:53 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:36 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Not going back to the MAC. This is the first time i have ever said it, for rhe record. I am not a MAC troll. I have been the staunchest defender of the cusa move you will ever see and when we made much more frm TV, it made sense.

But now? MAC has better tv exposure with espn. No more worrying about finding the channel with espn3 for EVERY GAME. And the MAC will pay better.

Competition - The mac was better than cusa last year. Has schools that are established. No difference in competition.

Travel - about every MAC game is a pretty easy drive. Awesme for our fans. Not to mention the history we have with those teams. Plus we save a ton on travel that is no longer offset with greater tv revenue.

Access bowl - MAC gives us better exposure and just as good or better competition. Undefeated there or here, and we are in, or a serious contender, just the same.

Now, I know many are going to talk about tuesday night games. But really? We don't have night games hardly ever now and they are awesome to have at the joan. Attendance will not suffer as much as many would think. We play on thursday occasionally and every black friday at noon now, and thats a terrible time slot.

I am not seeing any reason to stay in CUSA. The MAC now offers more, than CUSA does, and that may be tough to hear and accept, but it is true.

Damn dude....you need to chill out. CUSA is still a much better option over the Mac. Lets just wait and see what unfolds over the next couple years. Considering going back to the Mac is a bonehead move on many levels. The last thing we need to do is take a step backwards. Hell just the previous year we were the best G5 football conference in America. Just let it go and lets see how it plays out.

If Marshall doesnt go back to the MAC, or can't go to AAC, then Indy is better. CUSA can keep the money and give us a bowl tie in and the Herd can schedule Louisiana Tech and USM and see if if it could count as a conference game for them. Marshall can schedule who they want and the fans would be more interested. It was discussed on another thread Marshall probably makes $300k+ less playing ODU at home compared to Ohio U coming here, that adds up. A better schedule can make that money back. $500k isn't the end of the world but hopefully it's the final straw. Marshall loses in every way being here, from SOS to travel costs. CUSA east teams can't even give the Herd a good crowd when they play.

"I like WVU, Marshall plays easy teams." -10 year old nephew

"UAB? Who the F*** is that" -sister in law

"They got their perfect season ruined by some trash team Ive never even heard of."- co worker (and alot of others)

I liked the move to CUSA but CUSA is gone. Lets go.

Indy is not an option unless you want it to be the death of our program. Everybody needs to stop panicking and see what happens with the TV deals going forward. Right now its just anyones guess.

(01-15-2016 10:38 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:53 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:36 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Not going back to the MAC. This is the first time i have ever said it, for rhe record. I am not a MAC troll. I have been the staunchest defender of the cusa move you will ever see and when we made much more frm TV, it made sense.

But now? MAC has better tv exposure with espn. No more worrying about finding the channel with espn3 for EVERY GAME. And the MAC will pay better.

Competition - The mac was better than cusa last year. Has schools that are established. No difference in competition.

Travel - about every MAC game is a pretty easy drive. Awesme for our fans. Not to mention the history we have with those teams. Plus we save a ton on travel that is no longer offset with greater tv revenue.

Access bowl - MAC gives us better exposure and just as good or better competition. Undefeated there or here, and we are in, or a serious contender, just the same.

Now, I know many are going to talk about tuesday night games. But really? We don't have night games hardly ever now and they are awesome to have at the joan. Attendance will not suffer as much as many would think. We play on thursday occasionally and every black friday at noon now, and thats a terrible time slot.

I am not seeing any reason to stay in CUSA. The MAC now offers more, than CUSA does, and that may be tough to hear and accept, but it is true.

Damn dude....you need to chill out. CUSA is still a much better option over the Mac. Lets just wait and see what unfolds over the next couple years. Considering going back to the Mac is a bonehead move on many levels. The last thing we need to do is take a step backwards. Hell just the previous year we were the best G5 football conference in America. Just let it go and lets see how it plays out.

If Marshall doesnt go back to the MAC, or can't go to AAC, then Indy is better. CUSA can keep the money and give us a bowl tie in and the Herd can schedule Louisiana Tech and USM and see if if it could count as a conference game for them. Marshall can schedule who they want and the fans would be more interested. It was discussed on another thread Marshall probably makes $300k+ less playing ODU at home compared to Ohio U coming here, that adds up. A better schedule can make that money back. $500k isn't the end of the world but hopefully it's the final straw. Marshall loses in every way being here, from SOS to travel costs. CUSA east teams can't even give the Herd a good crowd when they play.

"I like WVU, Marshall plays easy teams." -10 year old nephew

"UAB? Who the F*** is that" -sister in law

"They got their perfect season ruined by some trash team Ive never even heard of."- co worker (and alot of others)

I liked the move to CUSA but CUSA is gone. Lets go.

Don't let the door hitcha where the good lord splitcha...

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Help me out. If this number is true, and we don't know that yet, then all this hand wringing is over 133k, right? Now how much would you lose in revenue if you play one Thursday and one Tue/Wed game. I think that 133k gap closes pretty quick. You're bowl situation flips from playing a MAC or AAC team to a CUSA or SBC. You also miss out on chance to host a CCG.

Also why would the Mac offer? You would just be another mouth to feed which would lower their payouts and raise ours which closes the gap even more. Now your talking about moving for 80k. It just doesn't make sense.

By the way we haven't seen where this contract settles out yet. Pump the Brakes.

I'll go if Charlotte can too.

(01-15-2016 10:45 AM)Niner National Wrote:  And what are you going to do with the rest of your sports? Marshall's performance in non-revenue sports is abysmal.

Really, what school made the CUSA soccer championship in both men and Women. VBall hasn't had a losing record since Mitch Jacobs has been in Huntington (Jacobs hired in 2003). Marshall tennis is always strong and in the last 2 years John Mercer has signed 2 4 star and 2 5 star girls. They also start the season this year ranked 42nd in the nation. Marshall just hired a new Swimming and Diving coach a year and half ago and well all he has done is have them break 12 school records last year and 3 national records.

Try again....

This thread is HILARIOUS! Does the OP poster speak for most Marshall fans or just the ones at the asylum? Trust me, having been to WV, CUSA-West teams in Texas and LA have a more difficult time traveling to "CUSA Bellcow Marshall" than the other way around.

Gosh, if you aspire to be in the MAC, who are we to stop you. lol

Marshall + UMass would be a slam dunk for the MAC. Would still be behind the MWC though.

It'd be cool to see the MWC nab 2 of UTSA / UTEP / Rice / Texas State too.

(01-15-2016 02:18 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  This thread is HILARIOUS! Does the OP poster speak for most Marshall fans or just the ones at the asylum? Trust me, having been to WV, CUSA-West teams in Texas and LA have a more difficult time traveling to "CUSA Bellcow Marshall" than the other way around.

Gosh, if you aspire to be in the MAC, who are we to stop you. lol

He's in the extreme minority.

(01-15-2016 11:44 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  You're not going back to the MAC and going independent would be really really stupid. That is all.

THIS.

Other than OU, the travel is similar in division and we play them nearly every year anyway.

Charlotte, ODU, UAB, WKU MTSU, and UTEP have better basketball pedigree. Some just aren't performing to their normal standards

I would never want to leave So Miss in football (felt the same about
ECU but they left us).

Funny, when we were in the MAC a lot of folks wanted to go back to the So Con for its southern destinations.

(01-15-2016 02:18 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  This thread is HILARIOUS! Does the OP poster speak for most Marshall fans or just the ones at the asylum? Trust me, having been to WV, CUSA-West teams in Texas and LA have a more difficult time traveling to "CUSA Bellcow Marshall" than the other way around.

Gosh, if you aspire to be in the MAC, who are we to stop you. lol

No, he does not speak for all of us. I think its natural for some of us to look at possibilities but this poster is leaving one critical thing out.

Unless the MAC has changed how they do bowl revenue, it would still suck from that point. Marshall was always in the red for any bowl we played while in the MAC. This is not the case in CUSA, at least we don't lose money. But now if the MAC has fixed that aspect, it can make things interesting, maybe even appealing. I just don't see the administration to be willing to pay exit fees to join the MAC though, unless the MAC wanted to pay it for them lol not happening.

Now we know why Brit left this year lol

(01-15-2016 10:38 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:53 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:36 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Not going back to the MAC. This is the first time i have ever said it, for rhe record. I am not a MAC troll. I have been the staunchest defender of the cusa move you will ever see and when we made much more frm TV, it made sense.

But now? MAC has better tv exposure with espn. No more worrying about finding the channel with espn3 for EVERY GAME. And the MAC will pay better.

Competition - The mac was better than cusa last year. Has schools that are established. No difference in competition.

Travel - about every MAC game is a pretty easy drive. Awesme for our fans. Not to mention the history we have with those teams. Plus we save a ton on travel that is no longer offset with greater tv revenue.

Access bowl - MAC gives us better exposure and just as good or better competition. Undefeated there or here, and we are in, or a serious contender, just the same.

Now, I know many are going to talk about tuesday night games. But really? We don't have night games hardly ever now and they are awesome to have at the joan. Attendance will not suffer as much as many would think. We play on thursday occasionally and every black friday at noon now, and thats a terrible time slot.

I am not seeing any reason to stay in CUSA. The MAC now offers more, than CUSA does, and that may be tough to hear and accept, but it is true.

Damn dude....you need to chill out. CUSA is still a much better option over the Mac. Lets just wait and see what unfolds over the next couple years. Considering going back to the Mac is a bonehead move on many levels. The last thing we need to do is take a step backwards. Hell just the previous year we were the best G5 football conference in America. Just let it go and lets see how it plays out.

If Marshall doesnt go back to the MAC, or can't go to AAC, then Indy is better. CUSA can keep the money and give us a bowl tie in and the Herd can schedule Louisiana Tech and USM and see if if it could count as a conference game for them. Marshall can schedule who they want and the fans would be more interested. It was discussed on another thread Marshall probably makes $300k+ less playing ODU at home compared to Ohio U coming here, that adds up. A better schedule can make that money back. $500k isn't the end of the world but hopefully it's the final straw. Marshall loses in every way being here, from SOS to travel costs. CUSA east teams can't even give the Herd a good crowd when they play.

"I like WVU, Marshall plays easy teams." -10 year old nephew

"UAB? Who the F*** is that" -sister in law

"They got their perfect season ruined by some trash team Ive never even heard of."- co worker (and alot of others)

I liked the move to CUSA but CUSA is gone. Lets go.

Kinda sounds like you have some ignorant relatives and co-workers.

(01-15-2016 02:27 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Marshall + UMass would be a slam dunk for the MAC. Would still be behind the MWC though.

It'd be cool to see the MWC nab 2 of UTSA / UTEP / Rice / Texas State too.

In all seriousness, what has UMASS done for the MAC?? Nothing I can think of. Refused to be all sports, their basketball is what is coveted, otherwise they haven't done a thing.

Marshall is definitely the biggest brand in the c-usa. Maybe the compromise would be giving them $1 million share of tv money. Kind of like Boise State with mwc?

MAC wouldn't be good option, imo. Tuesday and Wednesday are just terrible and is why their contract is a higher value. Those nights are valuable to networks with no other live programming.

(01-15-2016 02:55 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 10:38 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  If Marshall the money and give us a bowl tie in and the Herd can schedule Louisiana Tech and USM and see if if it could count as a conference game for them. Marshall can schedule who they want and the fans would be more interested. It was discussed on another thread Marshall probably makes $300k+ less playing ODU at home compared to Ohio U coming here, that adds up. A better schedule can make that money back. $500k isn't the end of the world but hopefully it's the final straw. Marshall loses in every way being here, from SOS to travel costs. CUSA east teams can't even give the Herd a good crowd when they play.

"I like WVU, Marshall plays easy teams." -10 year old nephew

"UAB? Who the F*** is that" -sister in law

"They got their perfect season ruined by some trash team Ive never even heard of."- co worker (and alot of others)

I liked the move to CUSA but CUSA is gone. Lets go.

Kinda sounds like you have some ignorant relatives and co-workers.

Yes, a 10 year old starting to form his own opinions. Probably has no clue Marshall is 4-0 in cusa right now but WVU beating Kansas this week he'll remember forever. I wish I could slap you.

(01-15-2016 03:54 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 02:55 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 10:38 AM)polkhigh Wrote:  If Marshall the money and give us a bowl tie in and the Herd can schedule Louisiana Tech and USM and see if if it could count as a conference game for them. Marshall can schedule who they want and the fans would be more interested. It was discussed on another thread Marshall probably makes $300k+ less playing ODU at home compared to Ohio U coming here, that adds up. A better schedule can make that money back. $500k isn't the end of the world but hopefully it's the final straw. Marshall loses in every way being here, from SOS to travel costs. CUSA east teams can't even give the Herd a good crowd when they play.

"I like WVU, Marshall plays easy teams." -10 year old nephew

"UAB? Who the F*** is that" -sister in law

"They got their perfect season ruined by some trash team Ive never even heard of."- co worker (and alot of others)

I liked the move to CUSA but CUSA is gone. Lets go.

Kinda sounds like you have some ignorant relatives and co-workers.

Yes, a 10 year old starting to form his own opinions. Probably has no clue Marshall is 4-0 in cusa right now but WVU beating Kansas this week he'll remember forever. I wish I could slap you.

Maybe the kid thinks you play easy teams in conference because you are 4-0 and still under .500 overall?