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RE: Non-AAU Notre Dame was offered B1G; so why is OU or FSU unrealistic?
(04-15-2016 01:21 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  At that point could there be a Big XII/ACC merger? Would Texas go west with TTU to the PAC 12? Or would each conference try and stick with what they have?

As for Texas and the Pac 12, this is a bit dated but still might have some validity (starts at 'going west' index):



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(04-15-2016 01:21 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  B1G & SEC collusion? Haha I love it!

Good points on Oklahoma and the DFW area. Oklahoma's largest alumni base is in Dallas. As you mentioned, that would be a major get for the B1G as the SEC Network is already in Texas.

I still think 16 is the sweet spot. While on the topic of collusion, I think Oklahoma and Kansas to the B1G and UNC/UVA to the SEC would produce ideal results for both conferences.

At that point could there be a Big XII/ACC merger? Would Texas go west with TTU to the PAC 12? Or would each conference try and stick with what they have?

B1G and SEC would definitely need to collude to force a merger (PAC isn't really necessary unless they can pull Texas out)... its been the talk for nearly a decade now.

The ACC has schools covering the same DMAs so its quite likely that the B1G and SEC collude to take one from each while also cementing inter-conference rivalries

A hypothetical:

B1G takes UVA, Duke, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Oklahoma, Texas to get to 20
SEC takes Va Tech, UNC, Kansas, Oklahoma State to get to 20

ACC merges with B12 and grab 6 schools from The American to get up to 20

East division
Syracuse, Boston College, Clemson, NC State, Miami, Pittsburgh, Wake Forest, Central Florida, South Florida, UConn

West division
Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, Iowa State, Houston, Memphis, Kansas State, Cincinnati, Louisville, West Virginia
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RE: Non-AAU Notre Dame was offered B1G; so why is OU or FSU unrealistic?
(04-15-2016 01:21 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  B1G & SEC collusion? Haha I love it!

Good points on Oklahoma and the DFW area. Oklahoma's largest alumni base is in Dallas. As you mentioned, that would be a major get for the B1G as the SEC Network is already in Texas.

I still think 16 is the sweet spot. While on the topic of collusion, I think Oklahoma and Kansas to the B1G and UNC/UVA to the SEC would produce ideal results for both conferences.

At that point could there be a Big XII/ACC merger? Would Texas go west with TTU to the PAC 12? Or would each conference try and stick with what they have?

I could go for that. I almost would rather have North Carolina and Virginia Tech. Virginia's academics are fantastic, but they really aren't much of a sports school. They have great baseball and that would work, but they aren't consistent as a basketball power and their football is really pretty weak. But I don't imagine that U.N.C. will separate from them.
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Non-AAU Notre Dame was offered B1G; so why is OU or FSU unrealistic?
(04-15-2016 04:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 01:21 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  B1G & SEC collusion? Haha I love it!

Good points on Oklahoma and the DFW area. Oklahoma's largest alumni base is in Dallas. As you mentioned, that would be a major get for the B1G as the SEC Network is already in Texas.

I still think 16 is the sweet spot. While on the topic of collusion, I think Oklahoma and Kansas to the B1G and UNC/UVA to the SEC would produce ideal results for both conferences.

At that point could there be a Big XII/ACC merger? Would Texas go west with TTU to the PAC 12? Or would each conference try and stick with what they have?

I could go for that. I almost would rather have North Carolina and Virginia Tech. Virginia's academics are fantastic, but they really aren't much of a sports school. They have great baseball and that would work, but they aren't consistent as a basketball power and their football is really pretty weak. But I don't imagine that U.N.C. will separate from them.

Remember, expansion decisions are made by university presidents, not ADs and/or football/basketball coaches. UVA is consistently near the top of the nation in both the men's and women's Capital One Cups, which measures athletic success of ALL programs. Is V-Tech football that much greater in worth than UVA's to discount UVA's success in all other sports? Not even counting academics, prestige, alumni base and wealth.

UVA's basketball has been excellent since Bennett was hired. They have elite baseball, lacrosse and soccer programs as well. IMO V-Tech isn't even a comparison to UVA. V-Tech hasn't been nationally relevant in football since 2011 and has no basketball success to show.
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RE: Non-AAU Notre Dame was offered B1G; so why is OU or FSU unrealistic?
(04-16-2016 11:47 AM)akhosrof Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 04:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 01:21 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  B1G & SEC collusion? Haha I love it!

Good points on Oklahoma and the DFW area. Oklahoma's largest alumni base is in Dallas. As you mentioned, that would be a major get for the B1G as the SEC Network is already in Texas.

I still think 16 is the sweet spot. While on the topic of collusion, I think Oklahoma and Kansas to the B1G and UNC/UVA to the SEC would produce ideal results for both conferences.

At that point could there be a Big XII/ACC merger? Would Texas go west with TTU to the PAC 12? Or would each conference try and stick with what they have?

I could go for that. I almost would rather have North Carolina and Virginia Tech. Virginia's academics are fantastic, but they really aren't much of a sports school. They have great baseball and that would work, but they aren't consistent as a basketball power and their football is really pretty weak. But I don't imagine that U.N.C. will separate from them.

Remember, expansion decisions are made by university presidents, not ADs and/or football/basketball coaches. UVA is consistently near the top of the nation in both the men's and women's Capital One Cups, which measures athletic success of ALL programs. Is V-Tech football that much greater in worth than UVA's to discount UVA's success in all other sports? Not even counting academics, prestige, alumni base and wealth.

UVA's basketball has been excellent since Bennett was hired. They have elite baseball, lacrosse and soccer programs as well. IMO V-Tech isn't even a comparison to UVA. V-Tech hasn't been nationally relevant in football since 2011 and has no basketball success to show.

You need to do some research on the Capital One Cup. It doesn't recognize all sports and is very Northeast friendly with the ones they select.
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I think everyone forgets an important fact and that is schools have to want to change conferences. Sure, the Big Ten and the SEC can carve up the Big 12 and/or ACC and form two super conferences but if the schools don't want to join, then it doesn't matter what the Big Ten and SEC offer. You don't think Virginia and North Carolina were "invited" by the Big Ten or SEC? They are still in the ACC, aren't they?
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(04-16-2016 08:24 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I think everyone forgets an important fact and that is schools have to want to change conferences. Sure, the Big Ten and the SEC can carve up the Big 12 and/or ACC and form two super conferences but if the schools don't want to join, then it doesn't matter what the Big Ten and SEC offer. You don't think Virginia and North Carolina were "invited" by the Big Ten or SEC? They are still in the ACC, aren't they?

It's the slow season. Everyone needs to indulge a bit of fantasy until August. North Carolina and Duke held talks with the SEC, but that was immediately following Maryland's defection and only as a contingency should the ACC have fallen apart.

If the ACC cracks it will not be from within the core, but rather on their periphery. And it will need to be the Big 10 that does the cracking again as ESPN will not pay the SEC to raid the ACC. They would however shelter the brands they truly want access to in the SEC should that raid ever occur.

So since F.S.U. is potentially the most volatile possibility and the SEC the most likely place for them the chance of anything happening is remote.

But please don't let that stop you from telling us all about that which we already know!
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(04-16-2016 07:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-16-2016 11:47 AM)akhosrof Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 04:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 01:21 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  B1G & SEC collusion? Haha I love it!

Good points on Oklahoma and the DFW area. Oklahoma's largest alumni base is in Dallas. As you mentioned, that would be a major get for the B1G as the SEC Network is already in Texas.

I still think 16 is the sweet spot. While on the topic of collusion, I think Oklahoma and Kansas to the B1G and UNC/UVA to the SEC would produce ideal results for both conferences.

At that point could there be a Big XII/ACC merger? Would Texas go west with TTU to the PAC 12? Or would each conference try and stick with what they have?

I could go for that. I almost would rather have North Carolina and Virginia Tech. Virginia's academics are fantastic, but they really aren't much of a sports school. They have great baseball and that would work, but they aren't consistent as a basketball power and their football is really pretty weak. But I don't imagine that U.N.C. will separate from them.

Remember, expansion decisions are made by university presidents, not ADs and/or football/basketball coaches. UVA is consistently near the top of the nation in both the men's and women's Capital One Cups, which measures athletic success of ALL programs. Is V-Tech football that much greater in worth than UVA's to discount UVA's success in all other sports? Not even counting academics, prestige, alumni base and wealth.

UVA's basketball has been excellent since Bennett was hired. They have elite baseball, lacrosse and soccer programs as well. IMO V-Tech isn't even a comparison to UVA. V-Tech hasn't been nationally relevant in football since 2011 and has no basketball success to show.

You need to do some research on the Capital One Cup. It doesn't recognize all sports and is very Northeast friendly with the ones they select.

Well if you consider UVA and V-Tech in the northeast, it's relative and V-Tech should be high in the standings. If you consider the two southern schools the fact UVA does so well is even more impressive. I don't necessarily buy the whole northeast bias. UCLA, Stanford, Notre Dame, Florida are all schools that are consistently near the top.

The Cup grades all sport. It even gives a weight a 3x to sports like football, baseball, soccer, basketball and lacrosse, compared to sports like indoor track and field, wrestling, golf, and water polo.

My point remains, the Capital One Cup is something taken as a serious reference point by university presidents. You also completely discounted UVA in all sports without acknowledging that V-Tech has a poor basketball program and hasn't been relevant in football since 2011, all while ACC football has gotten less depth and more top heavy in football.

If you want to say V-Tech has a football program with tradition and a winning history that is fine. But saying UVA is not a sports school is simply not true. University presidents will give very little weight to V-Tech's football program in comparison to what UVA offers. It's not even close.

Another thing that matters is state politics. V-Tech is at most the third priority public college in the state behind UVA and William & Mary. UVA has higher athletic department revenues and receives more state subsidies than V-Tech. University presidents in the SEC/B1G look for flagship universities to be sister institutions with.
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(04-17-2016 07:02 AM)akhosrof Wrote:  
(04-16-2016 07:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-16-2016 11:47 AM)akhosrof Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 04:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 01:21 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  B1G & SEC collusion? Haha I love it!

Good points on Oklahoma and the DFW area. Oklahoma's largest alumni base is in Dallas. As you mentioned, that would be a major get for the B1G as the SEC Network is already in Texas.

I still think 16 is the sweet spot. While on the topic of collusion, I think Oklahoma and Kansas to the B1G and UNC/UVA to the SEC would produce ideal results for both conferences.

At that point could there be a Big XII/ACC merger? Would Texas go west with TTU to the PAC 12? Or would each conference try and stick with what they have?

I could go for that. I almost would rather have North Carolina and Virginia Tech. Virginia's academics are fantastic, but they really aren't much of a sports school. They have great baseball and that would work, but they aren't consistent as a basketball power and their football is really pretty weak. But I don't imagine that U.N.C. will separate from them.

Remember, expansion decisions are made by university presidents, not ADs and/or football/basketball coaches. UVA is consistently near the top of the nation in both the men's and women's Capital One Cups, which measures athletic success of ALL programs. Is V-Tech football that much greater in worth than UVA's to discount UVA's success in all other sports? Not even counting academics, prestige, alumni base and wealth.

UVA's basketball has been excellent since Bennett was hired. They have elite baseball, lacrosse and soccer programs as well. IMO V-Tech isn't even a comparison to UVA. V-Tech hasn't been nationally relevant in football since 2011 and has no basketball success to show.

You need to do some research on the Capital One Cup. It doesn't recognize all sports and is very Northeast friendly with the ones they select.

Well if you consider UVA and V-Tech in the northeast, it's relative and V-Tech should be high in the standings. If you consider the two southern schools the fact UVA does so well is even more impressive. I don't necessarily buy the whole northeast bias. UCLA, Stanford, Notre Dame, Florida are all schools that are consistently near the top.

The Cup grades all sport. It even gives a weight a 3x to sports like football, baseball, soccer, basketball and lacrosse, compared to sports like indoor track and field, wrestling, golf, and water polo.

My point remains, the Capital One Cup is something taken as a serious reference point by university presidents. You also completely discounted UVA in all sports without acknowledging that V-Tech has a poor basketball program and hasn't been relevant in football since 2011, all while ACC football has gotten less depth and more top heavy in football.

If you want to say V-Tech has a football program with tradition and a winning history that is fine. But saying UVA is not a sports school is simply not true. University presidents will give very little weight to V-Tech's football program in comparison to what UVA offers. It's not even close.

Another thing that matters is state politics. V-Tech is at most the third priority public college in the state behind UVA and William & Mary. UVA has higher athletic department revenues and receives more state subsidies than V-Tech. University presidents in the SEC/B1G look for flagship universities to be sister institutions with.

Precisely! It gives Lacrosse, a niche Northeastern loved sport a x 3. Gymnastics? Golf? Tennis? Indoor and Outdoor Track & Field? The latter is the true Olympic sport, and you can add wrestling and swimming & diving. The very set up of the Capital One Cup is biased, and not even in a realistic way. There ought to be a core group of required NCAA sports. Give those a x 3. All niche sports should be x 1.
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(04-16-2016 08:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-16-2016 08:24 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I think everyone forgets an important fact and that is schools have to want to change conferences. Sure, the Big Ten and the SEC can carve up the Big 12 and/or ACC and form two super conferences but if the schools don't want to join, then it doesn't matter what the Big Ten and SEC offer. You don't think Virginia and North Carolina were "invited" by the Big Ten or SEC? They are still in the ACC, aren't they?

It's the slow season. Everyone needs to indulge a bit of fantasy until August. North Carolina and Duke held talks with the SEC, but that was immediately following Maryland's defection and only as a contingency should the ACC have fallen apart.

If the ACC cracks it will not be from within the core, but rather on their periphery. And it will need to be the Big 10 that does the cracking again as ESPN will not pay the SEC to raid the ACC. They would however shelter the brands they truly want access to in the SEC should that raid ever occur.

So since F.S.U. is potentially the most volatile possibility and the SEC the most likely place for them the chance of anything happening is remote.

But please don't let that stop you from telling us all about that which we already know!

Sorry for raining on the parade. I just thought I'd add the anchor of realism to the fantasy boat. I wasn't trying to strike a nerve so I apologize if i came across harsh, arrogant, or whatever. Every year people are predicting the end of the ACC, Big 12, Notre Dame's independence, etc. and every year goes by and nothing changes. But the best part is that just because it didn't happen yet doesn't mean it won't happen, right?
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(04-17-2016 03:53 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  
(04-16-2016 08:56 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-16-2016 08:24 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I think everyone forgets an important fact and that is schools have to want to change conferences. Sure, the Big Ten and the SEC can carve up the Big 12 and/or ACC and form two super conferences but if the schools don't want to join, then it doesn't matter what the Big Ten and SEC offer. You don't think Virginia and North Carolina were "invited" by the Big Ten or SEC? They are still in the ACC, aren't they?

It's the slow season. Everyone needs to indulge a bit of fantasy until August. North Carolina and Duke held talks with the SEC, but that was immediately following Maryland's defection and only as a contingency should the ACC have fallen apart.

If the ACC cracks it will not be from within the core, but rather on their periphery. And it will need to be the Big 10 that does the cracking again as ESPN will not pay the SEC to raid the ACC. They would however shelter the brands they truly want access to in the SEC should that raid ever occur.

So since F.S.U. is potentially the most volatile possibility and the SEC the most likely place for them the chance of anything happening is remote.

But please don't let that stop you from telling us all about that which we already know!

Sorry for raining on the parade. I just thought I'd add the anchor of realism to the fantasy boat. I wasn't trying to strike a nerve so I apologize if i came across harsh, arrogant, or whatever. Every year people are predicting the end of the ACC, Big 12, Notre Dame's independence, etc. and every year goes by and nothing changes. But the best part is that just because it didn't happen yet doesn't mean it won't happen, right?

That's okay. Like I said this time hits every year and on the CS&CR forum and in some of the conference threads we have the crazy 20 & 24 team fantasy posts, the big what if's of past actions, and the dream scenario to come true stuff that bluevod, the hillbillies, and others push. Your practical words are fine. I just wanted to remind you that right now most of the boards are grateful for a little action no matter how silly. I noticed that the Big 10 board was just as slow as the SEC board so I thought a post or two to gin up a little conversation was in order.

Now if something was actually happening, or the season was in swing, I would totally concur with your sentiment. Take care, JR

BTW: Gordon Gee in a WVU rivals article today said nothing was happening. And an Oregon AD and someone from Va Tech essentially echoed the same sentiments.

I doubt the GOR's are going to be seriously tested unless one of them does contain some heretofore undisclosed clause (which I doubt). I think the SEC and Big 10 will sit on 14 for at least 6 more years.
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(04-17-2016 01:59 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-17-2016 07:02 AM)akhosrof Wrote:  
(04-16-2016 07:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-16-2016 11:47 AM)akhosrof Wrote:  
(04-15-2016 04:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I could go for that. I almost would rather have North Carolina and Virginia Tech. Virginia's academics are fantastic, but they really aren't much of a sports school. They have great baseball and that would work, but they aren't consistent as a basketball power and their football is really pretty weak. But I don't imagine that U.N.C. will separate from them.

Remember, expansion decisions are made by university presidents, not ADs and/or football/basketball coaches. UVA is consistently near the top of the nation in both the men's and women's Capital One Cups, which measures athletic success of ALL programs. Is V-Tech football that much greater in worth than UVA's to discount UVA's success in all other sports? Not even counting academics, prestige, alumni base and wealth.

UVA's basketball has been excellent since Bennett was hired. They have elite baseball, lacrosse and soccer programs as well. IMO V-Tech isn't even a comparison to UVA. V-Tech hasn't been nationally relevant in football since 2011 and has no basketball success to show.

You need to do some research on the Capital One Cup. It doesn't recognize all sports and is very Northeast friendly with the ones they select.

Well if you consider UVA and V-Tech in the northeast, it's relative and V-Tech should be high in the standings. If you consider the two southern schools the fact UVA does so well is even more impressive. I don't necessarily buy the whole northeast bias. UCLA, Stanford, Notre Dame, Florida are all schools that are consistently near the top.

The Cup grades all sport. It even gives a weight a 3x to sports like football, baseball, soccer, basketball and lacrosse, compared to sports like indoor track and field, wrestling, golf, and water polo.

My point remains, the Capital One Cup is something taken as a serious reference point by university presidents. You also completely discounted UVA in all sports without acknowledging that V-Tech has a poor basketball program and hasn't been relevant in football since 2011, all while ACC football has gotten less depth and more top heavy in football.

If you want to say V-Tech has a football program with tradition and a winning history that is fine. But saying UVA is not a sports school is simply not true. University presidents will give very little weight to V-Tech's football program in comparison to what UVA offers. It's not even close.

Another thing that matters is state politics. V-Tech is at most the third priority public college in the state behind UVA and William & Mary. UVA has higher athletic department revenues and receives more state subsidies than V-Tech. University presidents in the SEC/B1G look for flagship universities to be sister institutions with.

Precisely! It gives Lacrosse, a niche Northeastern loved sport a x 3. Gymnastics? Golf? Tennis? Indoor and Outdoor Track & Field? The latter is the true Olympic sport, and you can add wrestling and swimming & diving. The very set up of the Capital One Cup is biased, and not even in a realistic way. There ought to be a core group of required NCAA sports. Give those a x 3. All niche sports should be x 1.

Outdoor track and field is part of the 3x. I'm not here to argue the Capital One Cup. You are ignoring all my points on V-Tech vs. UVA.

Fact remains, UVA is every bit of a sports school as V-Tech. I'd argue it's even better. Unless you want to put an unrealistic weight on football prior to 2012. Once again, not even counting everything UVA offers outside of athletics.

Very interesting stuff from Bluevodreal today. Said FSU, G-Tech, UNC and UVA are in play, with FUS leading the charge. I wonder if he's trolling everyone? Lol
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(04-17-2016 07:03 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  
(04-17-2016 01:59 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-17-2016 07:02 AM)akhosrof Wrote:  
(04-16-2016 07:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-16-2016 11:47 AM)akhosrof Wrote:  Remember, expansion decisions are made by university presidents, not ADs and/or football/basketball coaches. UVA is consistently near the top of the nation in both the men's and women's Capital One Cups, which measures athletic success of ALL programs. Is V-Tech football that much greater in worth than UVA's to discount UVA's success in all other sports? Not even counting academics, prestige, alumni base and wealth.

UVA's basketball has been excellent since Bennett was hired. They have elite baseball, lacrosse and soccer programs as well. IMO V-Tech isn't even a comparison to UVA. V-Tech hasn't been nationally relevant in football since 2011 and has no basketball success to show.

You need to do some research on the Capital One Cup. It doesn't recognize all sports and is very Northeast friendly with the ones they select.

Well if you consider UVA and V-Tech in the northeast, it's relative and V-Tech should be high in the standings. If you consider the two southern schools the fact UVA does so well is even more impressive. I don't necessarily buy the whole northeast bias. UCLA, Stanford, Notre Dame, Florida are all schools that are consistently near the top.

The Cup grades all sport. It even gives a weight a 3x to sports like football, baseball, soccer, basketball and lacrosse, compared to sports like indoor track and field, wrestling, golf, and water polo.

My point remains, the Capital One Cup is something taken as a serious reference point by university presidents. You also completely discounted UVA in all sports without acknowledging that V-Tech has a poor basketball program and hasn't been relevant in football since 2011, all while ACC football has gotten less depth and more top heavy in football.

If you want to say V-Tech has a football program with tradition and a winning history that is fine. But saying UVA is not a sports school is simply not true. University presidents will give very little weight to V-Tech's football program in comparison to what UVA offers. It's not even close.

Another thing that matters is state politics. V-Tech is at most the third priority public college in the state behind UVA and William & Mary. UVA has higher athletic department revenues and receives more state subsidies than V-Tech. University presidents in the SEC/B1G look for flagship universities to be sister institutions with.

Precisely! It gives Lacrosse, a niche Northeastern loved sport a x 3. Gymnastics? Golf? Tennis? Indoor and Outdoor Track & Field? The latter is the true Olympic sport, and you can add wrestling and swimming & diving. The very set up of the Capital One Cup is biased, and not even in a realistic way. There ought to be a core group of required NCAA sports. Give those a x 3. All niche sports should be x 1.

Outdoor track and field is part of the 3x. I'm not here to argue the Capital One Cup. You are ignoring all my points on V-Tech vs. UVA.

Fact remains, UVA is every bit of a sports school as V-Tech. I'd argue it's even better. Unless you want to put an unrealistic weight on football prior to 2012. Once again, not even counting everything UVA offers outside of athletics.

Very interesting stuff from Bluevodreal today. Said FSU, G-Tech, UNC and UVA are in play, with FUS leading the charge. I wonder if he's trolling everyone? Lol

If I don't comment on something you post it is because I don't disagree with it. I'm not ignoring it. Either of the schools would accomplish the purpose of the additions for either conference.

Now with regards to Bluevod, many of the things he suggests just are not even in the field of those things which could logically or reasonably happen. So trolling? Yes.
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The only legit options for expansion that might actually happen. This is based on order of likelihood. From the most likely to the least likely. *Not that any of these are actually likely.

1. OU
2. UVA
3. UNC
4. KU
5. GT
6. UConn
7. FSU
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(04-18-2016 02:22 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  The only legit options for expansion that might actually happen. This is based on order of likelihood. From the most likely to the least likely. *Not that any of these are actually likely.

1. OU
2. UVA
3. UNC
4. KU
5. GT
6. UConn
7. FSU

@TerryD is offended.
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(04-18-2016 08:27 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  
(04-18-2016 02:22 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  The only legit options for expansion that might actually happen. This is based on order of likelihood. From the most likely to the least likely. *Not that any of these are actually likely.

1. OU
2. UVA
3. UNC
4. KU
5. GT
6. UConn
7. FSU

@TerryD is offended.

You mean..giddy.
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