(02-15-2016 11:50 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 11:27 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I do have to say that Cincy and UConn leaving would be absolutely devastating.

Its not until you take a moment to actually analyze the replacement options that the full extent of the hit becomes clear. Cincy and UConn provide a upper tier G5 football programs that can average 40K in attendance. UConn and Cincy each provide elite basketball programs with upper tier attendance and national championship skins. Both Cinci and UConn have 50-70+ million dollar athletic budgets---two of the highest budgets in the entire G5. In short, these two schools each provide solid football, elite basketball, and a well funded overall athletic program. What schools are available to the AAC that can provide those same attributes?

Marshall? S Miss? UMass? NIU? ODU? Clearly---these types of options fall far short of the mark and are funded with budgets that are roughly about half of the UConn/Cinci budgets. In fact, most available replacements have budgets that are going to be well below the current average AAC budget. Only the combo of Army and Air Force come anywhere close of replacing UConn and Cincy with an acceptable level of value---and they wont replace the performance on the field/court.

You can't replace teams with equal value right away. It's only depressing if you look at it like you have to slot in full value replacements right away. The strategy for the AAC is taking the teams that have best demonstrated their willingness to spend to be competitive in the AAC culture. The AAC needs to act like a mini-power league. You slot teams in that will grow their AD's to fill the gap left behind. I'm of the opinion that the AAC will never be a power league because it's a closed club, but you can be the class of the G5, which is something that won't be ignored.

I'd say this whether it's UC & UConn to the Big 12 or UH & Memphis. You replace teams with the best options (if there are any). That means programs willing to do what it takes.

You take teams that are willing to build their own stadium (Temple). That are overhauling their practice facilities (Memphis). That are renovating their outdated facilities (UC, Houston, SMU). Etc. That's the AAC culture currently and why it's looked at (along some degree with the MWC) as the mini-tier on the higher end of the G5.

(02-15-2016 01:32 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 01:30 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  I still don't believe anything is going to happen. At least not anytime soon.

There is still nothing concrete.

That's the camp I am in. IMHO the first move(s) will come from power conference(s) not name the Big Twelve.

the B10 will set it in motion, when it grabs 1 couple of ACC teams - the dominoes line up after that.

Anyone that thinks the Big 12 will be around very long obviously wasn't paying attention to the Big East.

Losing Nebraska, Texas A&M, Colorado, and Mizzou, was on par (or greater) than losing Miami, Va Tech and BC.

However, the Big 12 doesn't have the C7 to prop it up.

Once Texas and OU go the way of Syracuse and Pitt, it's over.

The Big East's biggest mistake was that it kept its FB membership low just like the Big 12 is doing with 10 teams.

That will make the Sooners and Longhorns departure especially devastating (which they are aware of - and why they aren't expanding).

Trust me, they aren't keeping the light on for Cincinnati or whoever.

We've seen this movie play out.

I don't trust anyone

(02-14-2016 08:06 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 07:51 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 07:36 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 09:15 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 09:07 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Yeah, I suppose they brought up the subject at the recent AAC meeting, just for grins.

Why not... The MWC brought up Rice and UTEP for grins. You always have to cover scenarios.

The fact of the matter is, this "haircut" that the Big 12 was talking about runs completely contrary to what we have heard about the networks adjusting to pay 11 and 12 the same slice as 1-10.

There is a lot of information in the public sphere that is dubious at best.

I think Aresco is acting on information that he knows to be true. He's a connected guy and is going by what his contacts are telling him. I really don't think he pays the dirt writers any mind.

Actually Boren publicly stated that. The problem is it only covers football tv contract revenue and not bowl money etc

Yep, as usual Homer has no clue, it does not cover playoff money, bowl money, tourney money, sugar bowl tie in money etc.

Yes, I realize that's what Boren said. The quotes this time were from the K-State rep. It sounded like it would be a bigger cut. It sounded like they were going to allocate less TV revenue.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But that's not the impression I got.
Not that it matters.
The Big 12 is more likely to break up than add teams. That's why this doesn't faze Aresco.
If Texas ever gives up the LHN, it will sooner go out East or out West, than it will align with Cincinnati. Isn't that a *****, rtaylor?

Yes but the k state comments were well before Borens. The haircut I think he is referring to is the playoff money etc

(02-14-2016 08:59 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 08:49 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  who will the AAC add after UC and UCONN bolt to the B12?

UC and UCONN

This, this was the right thing to do.

At Gino's grill UConn

I don't have any doubt in my mind that Cincinnati and Connecticut are the most attractive schools outside of the P5, with the exception of perhaps BYU (who has issues with Sunday scheduling and their BYU TV rights).

So if the B12 expands, there's not really a question of "who".

But the question is, will they expand? And if they do, will Texas or Oklahoma and Kansas bolt and cause chaos? That's, to me, the bigger question.

Another article in the Enquirer today. Now UC is talking about expanding the stadium to 55,000 if an invite comes in hand. Dr. Ono is either extremely confident or incredibly misguided here.

https://t.co/BgOgiF8sEb

(02-15-2016 03:45 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 03:15 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Another article in the Enquirer today. Now UC is talking about expanding the stadium to 55,000 if an invite comes in hand. Dr. Ono is either extremely confident or incredibly misguided here.

https://t.co/BgOgiF8sEb

BAM

(02-15-2016 03:15 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Another article in the Enquirer today. Now UC is talking about expanding the stadium to 55,000 if an invite comes in hand. Dr. Ono is either extremely confident or incredibly misguided here.

https://t.co/BgOgiF8sEb

How about he is planning for the future, if it happens... better to have a plan in place then to receive an invite and have no idea what you are going to do...

(02-15-2016 02:01 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  I don't trust anyone

The pope said the big 12 is expanding....after OU leaves

(02-15-2016 04:06 PM)uchoops Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 03:15 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Another article in the Enquirer today. Now UC is talking about expanding the stadium to 55,000 if an invite comes in hand. Dr. Ono is either extremely confident or incredibly misguided here.

https://t.co/BgOgiF8sEb

How about he is planning for the future, if it happens... better to have a plan in place then to receive an invite and have no idea what you are going to do...

I think Clifton worded it like that to fend off the hyenas here on the main board. All Ono said is seats could be added to Nippert if need be.

(02-15-2016 04:06 PM)uchoops Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 03:15 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Another article in the Enquirer today. Now UC is talking about expanding the stadium to 55,000 if an invite comes in hand. Dr. Ono is either extremely confident or incredibly misguided here.

https://t.co/BgOgiF8sEb

How about he is planning for the future, if it happens... better to have a plan in place then to receive an invite and have no idea what you are going to do...

Never understood why the last expansion was only like 39,000 or whatever it ended up, that just screams small fry.

(02-15-2016 04:51 PM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 04:06 PM)uchoops Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 03:15 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Another article in the Enquirer today. Now UC is talking about expanding the stadium to 55,000 if an invite comes in hand. Dr. Ono is either extremely confident or incredibly misguided here.

https://t.co/BgOgiF8sEb

How about he is planning for the future, if it happens... better to have a plan in place then to receive an invite and have no idea what you are going to do...

Never understood why the last expansion was only like 39,000 or whatever it ended up, that just screams small fry.

When you average 32000 people, You build a stadium for slightly more. Just like Houston and Tulane, create a stadium that fits your needs. Games are more exciting in a sold out 40000 than a 2/3 full 60000. Probably the B12 was a long shot.

(02-15-2016 04:58 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 04:51 PM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 04:06 PM)uchoops Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 03:15 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Another article in the Enquirer today. Now UC is talking about expanding the stadium to 55,000 if an invite comes in hand. Dr. Ono is either extremely confident or incredibly misguided here.

https://t.co/BgOgiF8sEb

How about he is planning for the future, if it happens... better to have a plan in place then to receive an invite and have no idea what you are going to do...

Never understood why the last expansion was only like 39,000 or whatever it ended up, that just screams small fry.

When you average 32000 people, You build a stadium for slightly more. Just like Houston and Tulane, create a stadium that fits your needs. Games are more exciting in a sold out 40000 than a 2/3 full 60000. Probably the B12 was a long shot.

You have a number of P5 stadiums in the $40,000 range...Duke, Wake, Northwestern....

(02-15-2016 05:01 PM)uchoops Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 04:58 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 04:51 PM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 04:06 PM)uchoops Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 03:15 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Another article in the Enquirer today. Now UC is talking about expanding the stadium to 55,000 if an invite comes in hand. Dr. Ono is either extremely confident or incredibly misguided here.

https://t.co/BgOgiF8sEb

How about he is planning for the future, if it happens... better to have a plan in place then to receive an invite and have no idea what you are going to do...

Never understood why the last expansion was only like 39,000 or whatever it ended up, that just screams small fry.

When you average 32000 people, You build a stadium for slightly more. Just like Houston and Tulane, create a stadium that fits your needs. Games are more exciting in a sold out 40000 than a 2/3 full 60000. Probably the B12 was a long shot.

You have a number of P5 stadiums in the $40,000 range...Duke, Wake, Northwestern....

They sell stadiums that cheap?!

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This board is pathetic. Every school in this conference would sell their collective soul to get into a contract conference, yet when news is presented that shows what one school is doing or has done, most here want to take shots. Even if UC does not get an invite to the XII, I am damn proud of my university for the strides we have made both academically and athletically. We are positioning ourselves very well for the present and future. There are far too many hypocritical jack wads on this board.

(02-15-2016 05:14 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  This board is pathetic. Every school in this conference would sell their collective soul to get into a contract conference, yet when news is presented that shows what one school is doing or has done, most here want to take shots. Even if UC does not get an invite to the XII, I am damn proud of my university for the strides we have made both academically and athletically. We are positioning ourselves very well for the present and future. There are far too many hypocritical jack wads on this board.

Lmao. Cincinnati is not setting any precedences. Its just a slow media day.

(02-15-2016 05:24 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 05:14 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  This board is pathetic. Every school in this conference would sell their collective soul to get into a contract conference, yet when news is presented that shows what one school is doing or has done, most here want to take shots. Even if UC does not get an invite to the XII, I am damn proud of my university for the strides we have made both academically and athletically. We are positioning ourselves very well for the present and future. There are far too many hypocritical jack wads on this board.

Lmao. Cincinnati is not setting any precedences. Its just a slow media day.

You are such a clown, what happened to your other screen names Doc? You, as usual make zero relative points, just more moronic drivel.