I think it's stupid that people whine about bowl games at the end of the year yet at the beginning they will watch any and all football. At least the bowl games are the best teams. Yes I know 5-7 isn't "best" but point being the bowl games as a whole are filled with the better teams and it's FOOTBALL! People usually just want to whine and moan about something.

How about putting that energy into fighting for a playoff where all conf champs are included?

The article lost some of it's credibility IMO with the picture of Nebraska hoisting the bowl game trophy with the caption:
This view reveals a small number of fans showed up (49% of Levi's Stadium's capacity) to the Foster Farms Bowl between UCLA and Nebraska

At that point the game was over and for all we know that "could" have been the other team's side of the field. I agree there are way too many bowl games and you are now rewarding teams for having losing seasons. I also agree it's a double edged sword in that as long as there is a way to make money they will continue to create bowl games.

We played in the New Orleans Bowl this year and in the Heart of Dallas Bowl last year. I attended both games and had a good time at each. I'm sure that very few people outside of CUSA paid any attention to either, but it was fun for us. Why is it that bowls of little consequence bother so many people? What does it hurt for two teams to meet and play for a bowl title? When it comes down to it, there are only three post season games in major college football that have any real meaning. It's not just the G5 bowl games that people are indifferent about, it's every bowl other than those three playoff games. Why is no one calling for an end to those "meaningless" bowls as well?

(02-25-2016 06:56 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  We played in the New Orleans Bowl this year and in the Heart of Dallas Bowl last year. I attended both games and had a good time at each. I'm sure that very few people outside of CUSA paid any attention to either, but it was fun for us. Why is it that bowls of little consequence bother so many people? What does it hurt for two teams to meet and play for a bowl title? When it comes down to it, there are only three post season games in major college football that have any real meaning. It's not just the G5 bowl games that people are indifferent about, it's every bowl other than those three playoff games. Why is no one calling for an end to those "meaningless" bowls as well?

If they wanted to have 80 bowls I would not care as I agree with you in that the more games the better. My problem is that there are not enough teams with winning records to fill the bowls that exist now. I personally wish you had to have a record of over .500 to be in a bowl. It rewards mediocrity, IMO, to allow 6-6 and 5-7 teams in to a bowl. That said, I had virtually every bowl game on at the house even if I was not paying solid attention to it.

(02-25-2016 06:56 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  We played in the New Orleans Bowl this year and in the Heart of Dallas Bowl last year. I attended both games and had a good time at each. I'm sure that very few people outside of CUSA paid any attention to either, but it was fun for us. Why is it that bowls of little consequence bother so many people? What does it hurt for two teams to meet and play for a bowl title? When it comes down to it, there are only three post season games in major college football that have any real meaning. It's not just the G5 bowl games that people are indifferent about, it's every bowl other than those three playoff games. Why is no one calling for an end to those "meaningless" bowls as well?

We just want the bowls to stand for something for the schools who achieved it by having a good season. We put up with a 2nd place conference finish getting a school to a bowl (early 80's) to a 3rd through 8th place finish (late 80's) to a 6-5 team going to a bowl. Then to a team going to a bowl with only 5 FBS wins.....then to a 6-6 team being bowl eligible (2006) to now watching teams with losing records going to a bowl game. Do you think we should just have every single school in FBS being bowl eligible? Where do we finally draw the line????
Cheers!

(02-29-2016 06:09 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 06:56 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  We played in the New Orleans Bowl this year and in the Heart of Dallas Bowl last year. I attended both games and had a good time at each. I'm sure that very few people outside of CUSA paid any attention to either, but it was fun for us. Why is it that bowls of little consequence bother so many people? What does it hurt for two teams to meet and play for a bowl title? When it comes down to it, there are only three post season games in major college football that have any real meaning. It's not just the G5 bowl games that people are indifferent about, it's every bowl other than those three playoff games. Why is no one calling for an end to those "meaningless" bowls as well?

We just want the bowls to stand for something for the schools who achieved it by having a good season. We put up with a 2nd place conference finish getting a school to a bowl (early 80's) to a 3rd through 8th place finish (late 80's) to a 6-5 team going to a bowl. Then to a team going to a bowl with only 5 FBS wins.....then to a 6-6 team being bowl eligible (2006) to now watching teams with losing records going to a bowl game. Do you think we should just have every single school in FBS being bowl eligible? Where do we finally draw the line????
Cheers!

billybob....I'm in your camp....it should mean 'something'.....I don't believe in 'blue ribbons'

however, a couple of things to add is that going to a bowl game lends to more practice time....unfortunately, that can also create an atmosphere for potential injuries.....toss in the early bowls are a problem when the student/athlete has to take finals....

one other item....if the bowl game is somewhere outside the contiguous 48, I say no thank you.....hawaii or the bahamas???.....it's an insult to the fan base IMO

ultimately, I would like to see the amount of bowl games reduced and the playoff expanded with a later starting date

that will never happen b/c of the no fun league, p5 hierarchy, and the money made from bowl games....

it's a mess.....

(02-29-2016 06:09 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 06:56 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  We played in the New Orleans Bowl this year and in the Heart of Dallas Bowl last year. I attended both games and had a good time at each. I'm sure that very few people outside of CUSA paid any attention to either, but it was fun for us. Why is it that bowls of little consequence bother so many people? What does it hurt for two teams to meet and play for a bowl title? When it comes down to it, there are only three post season games in major college football that have any real meaning. It's not just the G5 bowl games that people are indifferent about, it's every bowl other than those three playoff games. Why is no one calling for an end to those "meaningless" bowls as well?

We just want the bowls to stand for something for the schools who achieved it by having a good season. We put up with a 2nd place conference finish getting a school to a bowl (early 80's) to a 3rd through 8th place finish (late 80's) to a 6-5 team going to a bowl. Then to a team going to a bowl with only 5 FBS wins.....then to a 6-6 team being bowl eligible (2006) to now watching teams with losing records going to a bowl game. Do you think we should just have every single school in FBS being bowl eligible? Where do we finally draw the line????
Cheers!

We've also witnessed plenty of 9-3 G5 teams sitting at home during the bowl season too. It happened every year until the number of bowl games grew to a point where that became a mathematical impossibility.

Decrease the number of bowl games and we'll return to those days. The bowls themselves will almost always take a 6-6 P5 team over an 8-4, or even a 9-3 G5 team.

(03-01-2016 06:53 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 06:09 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 06:56 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  We played in the New Orleans Bowl this year and in the Heart of Dallas Bowl last year. I attended both games and had a good time at each. I'm sure that very few people outside of CUSA paid any attention to either, but it was fun for us. Why is it that bowls of little consequence bother so many people? What does it hurt for two teams to meet and play for a bowl title? When it comes down to it, there are only three post season games in major college football that have any real meaning. It's not just the G5 bowl games that people are indifferent about, it's every bowl other than those three playoff games. Why is no one calling for an end to those "meaningless" bowls as well?

We just want the bowls to stand for something for the schools who achieved it by having a good season. We put up with a 2nd place conference finish getting a school to a bowl (early 80's) to a 3rd through 8th place finish (late 80's) to a 6-5 team going to a bowl. Then to a team going to a bowl with only 5 FBS wins.....then to a 6-6 team being bowl eligible (2006) to now watching teams with losing records going to a bowl game. Do you think we should just have every single school in FBS being bowl eligible? Where do we finally draw the line????
Cheers!

We've also witnessed plenty of 9-3 G5 teams sitting at home during the bowl season too. It happened every year until the number of bowl games grew to a point where that became a mathematical impossibility.

Decrease the number of bowl games and we'll return to those days. The bowls themselves will almost always take a 6-6 P5 team over an 8-4, or even a 9-3 G5 team.

that's a fair point....

is why they know a lawsuit would surely follow if the number was reduced....

is why there are so many....

still doesn't change my opinion of 'want' and 'would like to see'

I'm a firm believer in incentive....

the whole p5/g5 didn't have to happen....but it has.....so we have to deal with that as a g5

it's fair to want a playoff spot from one of the 5 'lower tier' conferences in an 8 team playoff.....

disclaimer: I want a 16 team with two in the mix.....