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Georgia fired state employee because he is a Christian and does Sermons
Former Atlanta Fire Chief got fired for writing a Christian book and now this,

Georgia Bureaucrats Listened to a Doctor’s Sermons, and Then Fired Him

by DAVID FRENCH April 20, 2016 1:21 PM @DAVIDAFRENCH On March 28, Georgia governor Nathan Deal capitulated to threats from the social-justice warriors at Apple, Disney, and the NFL and vetoed HB 757, the “Free Exercise Protection Act.” In his self-righteous statement justifying his veto, Deal claimed that Georgia didn’t need new religious-liberty legislation. Rather, he claimed that these laws enable discrimination, and his veto was thus about the “character of our State and the character of its people.” Perhaps he should look to the character of his own government. This morning, the First Liberty Institute filed a lawsuit in federal court that makes chilling claims against Georgia’s Department of Public Health, claims backed by a host of damaging documents. The Institute represents Dr. Eric Walsh, a California physician and former director of public health for the city of Pasadena, Calif. Walsh is also a devout Christian, a Seventh-day Adventist who sometimes preaches in his spare time.

When Georgia officials learned of Walsh’s California controversy, they responded by immediately violating the law. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits government employers from considering an applicant’s religion in employment decisions, but Georgia officials not only evaluated Walsh’s religious views, the director of human resources wrote an e-mail to department employees giving them the “assignment” of listening to his sermons.

Not everyone supported the witch hunt: Walsh claims that the health department’s own lawyer twice warned department officials that Walsh’s religious beliefs “could play no role” in the department’s employment decisions. One health-department employee issued his own stark warning, saying: “If we do not hire this applicant on the basis of evidence of job performance and disqualify him on the basis of discrimination by those who seek to advance their own agenda and do him harm, I believe we are no better than they are.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/43...term=NR5PM
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Get ready to hear how this was ok cause people's fee-fee's
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(04-21-2016 12:24 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Former Atlanta Fire Chief got fired for writing a Christian book and now this,

Georgia Bureaucrats Listened to a Doctor’s Sermons, and Then Fired Him

by DAVID FRENCH April 20, 2016 1:21 PM @DAVIDAFRENCH On March 28, Georgia governor Nathan Deal capitulated to threats from the social-justice warriors at Apple, Disney, and the NFL and vetoed HB 757, the “Free Exercise Protection Act.” In his self-righteous statement justifying his veto, Deal claimed that Georgia didn’t need new religious-liberty legislation. Rather, he claimed that these laws enable discrimination, and his veto was thus about the “character of our State and the character of its people.” Perhaps he should look to the character of his own government. This morning, the First Liberty Institute filed a lawsuit in federal court that makes chilling claims against Georgia’s Department of Public Health, claims backed by a host of damaging documents. The Institute represents Dr. Eric Walsh, a California physician and former director of public health for the city of Pasadena, Calif. Walsh is also a devout Christian, a Seventh-day Adventist who sometimes preaches in his spare time.

When Georgia officials learned of Walsh’s California controversy, they responded by immediately violating the law. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits government employers from considering an applicant’s religion in employment decisions, but Georgia officials not only evaluated Walsh’s religious views, the director of human resources wrote an e-mail to department employees giving them the “assignment” of listening to his sermons.

Not everyone supported the witch hunt: Walsh claims that the health department’s own lawyer twice warned department officials that Walsh’s religious beliefs “could play no role” in the department’s employment decisions. One health-department employee issued his own stark warning, saying: “If we do not hire this applicant on the basis of evidence of job performance and disqualify him on the basis of discrimination by those who seek to advance their own agenda and do him harm, I believe we are no better than they are.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/43...term=NR5PM

Oh ****! You just confused the **** out of the leftists on this board! I wonder what side they will be on...
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(04-21-2016 12:37 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 12:24 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Former Atlanta Fire Chief got fired for writing a Christian book and now this,

Georgia Bureaucrats Listened to a Doctor’s Sermons, and Then Fired Him

by DAVID FRENCH April 20, 2016 1:21 PM @DAVIDAFRENCH On March 28, Georgia governor Nathan Deal capitulated to threats from the social-justice warriors at Apple, Disney, and the NFL and vetoed HB 757, the “Free Exercise Protection Act.” In his self-righteous statement justifying his veto, Deal claimed that Georgia didn’t need new religious-liberty legislation. Rather, he claimed that these laws enable discrimination, and his veto was thus about the “character of our State and the character of its people.” Perhaps he should look to the character of his own government. This morning, the First Liberty Institute filed a lawsuit in federal court that makes chilling claims against Georgia’s Department of Public Health, claims backed by a host of damaging documents. The Institute represents Dr. Eric Walsh, a California physician and former director of public health for the city of Pasadena, Calif. Walsh is also a devout Christian, a Seventh-day Adventist who sometimes preaches in his spare time.

When Georgia officials learned of Walsh’s California controversy, they responded by immediately violating the law. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits government employers from considering an applicant’s religion in employment decisions, but Georgia officials not only evaluated Walsh’s religious views, the director of human resources wrote an e-mail to department employees giving them the “assignment” of listening to his sermons.

Not everyone supported the witch hunt: Walsh claims that the health department’s own lawyer twice warned department officials that Walsh’s religious beliefs “could play no role” in the department’s employment decisions. One health-department employee issued his own stark warning, saying: “If we do not hire this applicant on the basis of evidence of job performance and disqualify him on the basis of discrimination by those who seek to advance their own agenda and do him harm, I believe we are no better than they are.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/43...term=NR5PM

Oh ****! You just confused the **** out of the leftists on this board! I wonder what side they will be on...

There will be no confusion. When this has happened in the past the leftist come on and say that this is a justifiable reason to fire someone in e public position blah blah
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There are some things that will get you fired even if you say them in a church.

The Director of Public Health cannot go around insulting groups that he'll need to effectively work with in order to get his employers' mandate across. Neither can a Police Chief. Even if you do it in a church.

In order to be an effective CEO (which is basically what a Police Chief or a Director of Public Health is) you have to be able to communicate with all segments of society. CEO's can and do get canned all the time for losing credibility with their customers.

Its the same principle at work here as when a teacher gets fired for performing in a porn film. Perfectly legal for the person to do so, but the fact that they've done so makes it much harder for them to be effective in their job.

And why was the DPH moonlighting? Did he have a part time job?
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(04-21-2016 01:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  There are some things that will get you fired even if you say them in a church.

The Director of Public Health cannot go around insulting groups that he'll need to effectively work with in order to get his employers' mandate across. Neither can a Police Chief. Even if you do it in a church.

In order to be an effective CEO (which is basically what a Police Chief or a Director of Public Health is) you have to be able to communicate with all segments of society. CEO's can and do get canned all the time for losing credibility with their customers.

Its the same principle at work here as when a teacher gets fired for performing in a porn film. Perfectly legal for the person to do so, but the fact that they've done so makes it much harder for them to be effective in their job.

And why was the DPH moonlighting? Did he have a part time job?

UPDATE (5:31 p.m.): Nancy Nydam, acting director of communications for the Georgia Department of Public Health, emailed the following response to TheBlaze Wednesday afternoon:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/04/...hes-suing/
Georgia Department of Public Health policy requires the disclosure and written approval of secondary employment held by its employees. Dr. Walsh was extended a conditional offer of employment by DPH, subject to passing a routine background check. During the background check process, DPH learned Dr. Walsh failed to disclose outside employment to his previous public health employer, which also was in violation of California law. Due to violation of both California state law and DPH policy, the offer to Dr. Walsh was rescinded. During his interview, Dr. Walsh disclosed his religious beliefs to DPH staff and indicated that he preached at his church in California. Dr. Walsh’s religious beliefs had nothing to do with the decision to withdraw the offer.

Here is the semi official statement. If this is what DPH is going with they might be in a little trouble, if Walsh's attorney has emails and testimony lined up relative to his religion and his sermon's.

I bet a whole bunch of public employees have secondary outside income that they never disclose, something as simple as a part time coach, personal trainer, home business selling chit on ebay etc.
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(04-21-2016 01:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(04-21-2016 01:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  There are some things that will get you fired even if you say them in a church.

The Director of Public Health cannot go around insulting groups that he'll need to effectively work with in order to get his employers' mandate across. Neither can a Police Chief. Even if you do it in a church.

In order to be an effective CEO (which is basically what a Police Chief or a Director of Public Health is) you have to be able to communicate with all segments of society. CEO's can and do get canned all the time for losing credibility with their customers.

Its the same principle at work here as when a teacher gets fired for performing in a porn film. Perfectly legal for the person to do so, but the fact that they've done so makes it much harder for them to be effective in their job.

And why was the DPH moonlighting? Did he have a part time job?

UPDATE (5:31 p.m.): Nancy Nydam, acting director of communications for the Georgia Department of Public Health, emailed the following response to TheBlaze Wednesday afternoon:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/04/...hes-suing/
Georgia Department of Public Health policy requires the disclosure and written approval of secondary employment held by its employees. Dr. Walsh was extended a conditional offer of employment by DPH, subject to passing a routine background check. During the background check process, DPH learned Dr. Walsh failed to disclose outside employment to his previous public health employer, which also was in violation of California law. Due to violation of both California state law and DPH policy, the offer to Dr. Walsh was rescinded. During his interview, Dr. Walsh disclosed his religious beliefs to DPH staff and indicated that he preached at his church in California. Dr. Walsh’s religious beliefs had nothing to do with the decision to withdraw the offer.

Here is the semi official statement. If this is what DPH is going with they might be in a little trouble, if Walsh's attorney has emails and testimony lined up relative to his religion and his sermon's.

I bet a whole bunch of public employees have secondary outside income that they never disclose, something as simple as a part time coach, personal trainer, home business selling chit on ebay etc.

Looks like they found their "out".
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Lee Rudd, director of human resources with Georgia’s Public Health Department, wrote in an email on May 14, 2014:

“OK … I have an assignment for several of us. We have to listen to his sermons on You Tube tonight. If we take a couple of hours each, then we should cover our bases.”

Dys told The Daily Signal that the state of Georgia “spent upwards of 10 hours dividing up sermons and reviewing them on state dollars, on state computers.” He said:
http://dailysignal.com/2016/04/20/the-ch...fired-him/
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But I thought Christians were protected and thats all the gays were asking for, equality. So gays can be fired too.
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#WarOnChristians
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(04-21-2016 02:03 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Lee Rudd, director of human resources with Georgia’s Public Health Department, wrote in an email on May 14, 2014:

“OK … I have an assignment for several of us. We have to listen to his sermons on You Tube tonight. If we take a couple of hours each, then we should cover our bases.”

Dys told The Daily Signal that the state of Georgia “spent upwards of 10 hours dividing up sermons and reviewing them on state dollars, on state computers.” He said:
http://dailysignal.com/2016/04/20/the-ch...fired-him/

These are the people need firing.

And lol'ed at the attempted analogy of a school teacher doing a porn flick to a Dr. who also does some sermons on occasion.

Tells you all one needs about moral relativism. laughable.
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Well, he thinks stinking his dick in a dirty pile of poo is on par to doing a righteous juicy squeezebox.
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(04-21-2016 01:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  There are some things that will get you fired even if you say them in a church.

Like clockwork...

Quote:The Director of Public Health cannot go around insulting groups that he'll need to effectively work with in order to get his employers' mandate across. Neither can a Police Chief. Even if you do it in a church.

Does that include people who complain about white privilege who need to work with other people. Or Gay people who attack the core beliefs of Christianity who also need to serve the Christians in their community?

Quote:Its the same principle at work here as when a teacher gets fired for performing in a porn film. Perfectly legal for the person to do so, but the fact that they've done so makes it much harder for them to be effective in their job.

Here's the difference... I don't think a teacher should be fired from a public school for acting in a porn film... Because the *government* should not be discriminating on people for things like that.

Quote:And why was the DPH moonlighting? Did he have a part time job?

Now you're just reaching... I'm sure an ADA of Houston serving as a board member for Planned Parenthood is just fine...
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