http://espn.go.com/blog/acc

Cue the FSU whiners saying they can't compete since they're stuck in the ACC, that the ACC is DOOMED and that they long to move to the B12 because the puny ACC doesn't deserve their magnificence!

"ACC commissioner John Swofford made $2.7 million, nearly $600,000 more than he made the previous year."

(05-27-2016 03:25 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  "ACC commissioner John Swofford made $2.7 million, nearly $600,000 more than he made the previous year."

I cant imagine that any other conference commish makes much more than that, if at all.

(05-27-2016 03:54 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 03:25 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  "ACC commissioner John Swofford made $2.7 million, nearly $600,000 more than he made the previous year."

I cant imagine that any other conference commish makes much more than that, if at all.

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott is disappointed that you don't know his total compensation package is $4 million.

(05-27-2016 03:54 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 03:25 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  "ACC commissioner John Swofford made $2.7 million, nearly $600,000 more than he made the previous year."

I cant imagine that any other conference commish makes much more than that, if at all.

The headliner number in the Pac-12 990s, for some, is commissioner Larry Scott’s pay: He earned $3.94 million in reportable compensation in his dual role as commissioner of the league and chief executive of Pac-12 Enterprises, plus another $108k in “other” comp. That makes him the first $4 million commissioner.
-- Jon Wilner

IMAGINE THAT

(05-27-2016 03:54 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 03:25 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  "ACC commissioner John Swofford made $2.7 million, nearly $600,000 more than he made the previous year."

I cant imagine that any other conference commish makes much more than that, if at all.

But two do. B1G and SEC.

(05-27-2016 04:01 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 03:54 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 03:25 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  "ACC commissioner John Swofford made $2.7 million, nearly $600,000 more than he made the previous year."

I cant imagine that any other conference commish makes much more than that, if at all.

But two do. B1G and SEC.

Time to get out of the insurance biz and get into the conference commissioner biz.

It was $26.2 for each of the football-playing schools.

Does anyone have the drive, resources, or off-the-head knowledge to see what the other conferences did for that time period?

I know the SEC and the B1G were "over $30 mm," but I'm not sure of the exact number. I'm also curious to know if that includes or excludes the fact that schools like RU, UMD, and Nebraska (I think) and TAMU (I think) and MIZZOU (I think) only got partial cuts.

(05-27-2016 04:44 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  It was $26.2 for each of the football-playing schools.

Does anyone have the drive, resources, or off-the-head knowledge to see what the other conferences did for that time period?

I know the SEC and the B1G were "over $30 mm," but I'm not sure of the exact number. I'm also curious to know if that includes or excludes the fact that schools like RU, UMD, and Nebraska (I think) and TAMU (I think) and MIZZOU (I think) only got partial cuts.

Here are the other conferences.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespor...g-picture/

Big 10, SEC : 32-33 Million
ACC : 26.2 Million
Pac 12 : 25.1 Million
Big 12 : 23.3 Million

Yes there were special circumstances for the ACC to finish third year this (Orange Bowl, Maryland), the Big 2 have separated from other 3 by 7-10 Million a year.

The other 3 will be within 5 Million of each other in given year.

No doubt the ACC needs an additional revenue generator, but the ACC is generating competitive numbers at least in the near term.

(05-27-2016 04:44 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  It was $26.2 for each of the football-playing schools.

Does anyone have the drive, resources, or off-the-head knowledge to see what the other conferences did for that time period?

I know the SEC and the B1G were "over $30 mm," but I'm not sure of the exact number. I'm also curious to know if that includes or excludes the fact that schools like RU, UMD, and Nebraska (I think) and TAMU (I think) and MIZZOU (I think) only got partial cuts.

I dont know if this is what you are looking for but The article that Hallcity linked had this to say about the other conferences:

With a massive revenue increase sparked by the start-up of the SEC Network, the SEC’s per-school distributions ranged from $31.2 million to $33.9 million.

The Big Ten distributed about $32.4 million to each of its 11 longest-standing members.

The Pac-12’s per-school shares were about $25.1 million.

The Big 12’s were around $23.4 million, except for West Virginia and TCU, which each got a little more than $20 million.

I believe that the Pac12, B1G and Big12 all have teams earning less than a full share. The only conferences where every team receives a full share are the SEC and ACC.
I wonder if the ACC split the collected MD exit fee equally between all the members? Talk about every member being respected and treated equally on the revenue front....

(05-27-2016 05:32 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 04:44 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  It was $26.2 for each of the football-playing schools.

Does anyone have the drive, resources, or off-the-head knowledge to see what the other conferences did for that time period?

I know the SEC and the B1G were "over $30 mm," but I'm not sure of the exact number. I'm also curious to know if that includes or excludes the fact that schools like RU, UMD, and Nebraska (I think) and TAMU (I think) and MIZZOU (I think) only got partial cuts.

I dont know if this is what you are looking for but The article that Hallcity linked had this to say about the other conferences:

With a massive revenue increase sparked by the start-up of the SEC Network, the SEC’s per-school distributions ranged from $31.2 million to $33.9 million.

The Big Ten distributed about $32.4 million to each of its 11 longest-standing members.

The Pac-12’s per-school shares were about $25.1 million.

The Big 12’s were around $23.4 million, except for West Virginia and TCU, which each got a little more than $20 million.

I missed that. Good catch. Factor in the extra T3 rights and SB > OB, and the Big XII made about 26.4 compared to the ACC's 26.2.

(I assumed that the ACC - UMD exit + ESPN bump - (SB payout - OB payout) roughly breaks even and Big XII T3 rights that don't include Texas are worth about $3 mm more than any residual ACC T3 rights)

Given the rate at which ACC schools are investing in their AD's (see new fb coaching hires and new facilities in the conference) and the conference as a whole (see ACCN rumors) and the potential impacts of the Baylor scandal, I'm happy with our positioning - at least with regards to the Big XII and the Pac 12.

(05-27-2016 06:32 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 05:32 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 04:44 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  It was $26.2 for each of the football-playing schools.

Does anyone have the drive, resources, or off-the-head knowledge to see what the other conferences did for that time period?

I know the SEC and the B1G were "over $30 mm," but I'm not sure of the exact number. I'm also curious to know if that includes or excludes the fact that schools like RU, UMD, and Nebraska (I think) and TAMU (I think) and MIZZOU (I think) only got partial cuts.

I dont know if this is what you are looking for but The article that Hallcity linked had this to say about the other conferences:

With a massive revenue increase sparked by the start-up of the SEC Network, the SEC’s per-school distributions ranged from $31.2 million to $33.9 million.

The Big Ten distributed about $32.4 million to each of its 11 longest-standing members.

The Pac-12’s per-school shares were about $25.1 million.

The Big 12’s were around $23.4 million, except for West Virginia and TCU, which each got a little more than $20 million.

I missed that. Good catch. Factor in the extra T3 rights and SB > OB, and the Big XII made about 26.4 compared to the ACC's 26.2.

(I assumed that the ACC - UMD exit + ESPN bump - (SB payout - OB payout) roughly breaks even and Big XII T3 rights that don't include Texas are worth about $3 mm more than any residual ACC T3 rights)

Given the rate at which ACC schools are investing in their AD's (see new fb coaching hires and new facilities in the conference) and the conference as a whole (see ACCN rumors) and the potential impacts of the Baylor scandal, I'm happy with our positioning - at least with regards to the Big XII and the Pac 12.

Per Andrea in the ESPN article:

In addition, the league also paid its schools more than $11.6 million in championship reimbursements, which is not reflected in the payout figures.

A penny reimbursed is a penny saved compared to other conferences, and you know what they say about a penny saved.

Be sure to consider all revenue streams. The B1G pays into the fund a portion of their ticket sales and then shares the revenue between all schools. This makes the payout appear higher than it really is.

Also remember that the ACC allows schools to keep all of their other revenue (signage, radio, clothing, etc.) while other conferences may share some of all of these revenues. The deals are not exactly the same, thus comparing the payout only is not a good analysis method, though it is a good start.

It would be cool if someone could get the contracts and then make real comparisons.

(05-27-2016 07:33 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  Be sure to consider all revenue streams. The B1G pays into the fund a portion of their ticket sales and then shares the revenue between all schools. This makes the payout appear higher than it really is.

Also remember that the ACC allows schools to keep all of their other revenue (signage, radio, clothing, etc.) while other conferences may share some of all of these revenues. The deals are not exactly the same, thus comparing the payout only is not a good analysis method, though it is a good start.

It would be cool if someone could get the contracts and then make real comparisons.

Great point! The Pac12 is getting a little scary. Schools are required to give up their radio, signage, etc rights to the conference. I would imagine that stuff would then fall under the GOR. No wonder some of the Big 12 schools are hesitant to join. You literally have to sacrifice all your rights to the Conference.

(05-27-2016 06:45 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 06:32 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 05:32 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 04:44 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  It was $26.2 for each of the football-playing schools.

Does anyone have the drive, resources, or off-the-head knowledge to see what the other conferences did for that time period?

I know the SEC and the B1G were "over $30 mm," but I'm not sure of the exact number. I'm also curious to know if that includes or excludes the fact that schools like RU, UMD, and Nebraska (I think) and TAMU (I think) and MIZZOU (I think) only got partial cuts.

I dont know if this is what you are looking for but The article that Hallcity linked had this to say about the other conferences:

With a massive revenue increase sparked by the start-up of the SEC Network, the SEC’s per-school distributions ranged from $31.2 million to $33.9 million.

The Big Ten distributed about $32.4 million to each of its 11 longest-standing members.

The Pac-12’s per-school shares were about $25.1 million.

The Big 12’s were around $23.4 million, except for West Virginia and TCU, which each got a little more than $20 million.

I missed that. Good catch. Factor in the extra T3 rights and SB > OB, and the Big XII made about 26.4 compared to the ACC's 26.2.

(I assumed that the ACC - UMD exit + ESPN bump - (SB payout - OB payout) roughly breaks even and Big XII T3 rights that don't include Texas are worth about $3 mm more than any residual ACC T3 rights)

Given the rate at which ACC schools are investing in their AD's (see new fb coaching hires and new facilities in the conference) and the conference as a whole (see ACCN rumors) and the potential impacts of the Baylor scandal, I'm happy with our positioning - at least with regards to the Big XII and the Pac 12.

Per Andrea in the ESPN article:

In addition, the league also paid its schools more than $11.6 million in championship reimbursements, which is not reflected in the payout figures.

A penny reimbursed is a penny saved compared to other conferences, and you know what they say about a penny saved.

I don't think this is in addition to, but rather the reimbursement money comes out first and then they split the rest.

A few takeaways:
1. Looks like were competitive in the short term.
2. The Orange Bowl deal will drag the numbers down in future years.
3. The ACCN could alleviate financial concerns for the long term. Then we'll have to find something else to talk about
4. Not a huge fan or detractor of Swofford, but how he got a ~30% raise is beyond me.

I don't see how Swoff agreed to the much lower Orange Bowl payout....as a Power 5 league (who's certainly shown they belong) it needs to be on par with the Sugar, etc.

(05-28-2016 08:41 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  A few takeaways:
1. Looks like were competitive in the short term.
2. The Orange Bowl deal will drag the numbers down in future years.
3. The ACCN could alleviate financial concerns for the long term. Then we'll have to find something else to talk about
4. Not a huge fan or detractor of Swofford, but how he got a ~30% raise is beyond me.

(05-28-2016 09:08 AM)Villecard Wrote:  I don't see how Swoff agreed to the much lower Orange Bowl payout....as a Power 5 league (who's certainly shown they belong) it needs to be on par with the Sugar, etc.

(05-28-2016 08:41 AM)ren.hoek Wrote:  A few takeaways:
1. Looks like were competitive in the short term.
2. The Orange Bowl deal will drag the numbers down in future years.
3. The ACCN could alleviate financial concerns for the long term. Then we'll have to find something else to talk about
4. Not a huge fan or detractor of Swofford, but how he got a ~30% raise is beyond me.

I have criticisms of Swofford, but when the Orange Bowl deal was made the ACC was working from a position of severe weakness.

The ACC had just went 2-13 in their 15 previous BCS games. No teams even sniffed competing for a national title for over a decade.

The ACC football product was light years behind the other 4 conferences and probably the Big East too. Obviously not the case now, but Swofford didn't have much to work with.

When it comes down to it no one in the PAc 12, ACC, Big 12 should be bragging over the other. It's the Big 2 and then the 3.