(05-30-2016 06:17 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 01:36 PM)keebler645 Wrote:  Umm, no to the MAC. Obviously their TV deal is going to go down next time too so that would be a silly reason to move.

Yeah, 13 years from now when MAC deal is up the current market will have not changed again?

Im sure the MAC will worry about that 2028.

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Yeah. As of right now, I think the MAC is in a good position monetarily considering the fluctuation that is currently going on. Their long term gamble seems to have paid off. Not sure CUSA if can/will reach that type of money again by 2028. Definitely a possibility, especially if their new teams really liven up in the next few years. Looking the other way...the question should be if the Sunbelt's next deal will be >= CUSA's new deal or not. This is also not out of the realm of possibility considering the Sunbelt's latest attempt at "fat trimming" along with the schools that have been brought in since the last contract was signed.

(05-30-2016 01:02 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 12:57 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 12:29 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  The only other programs in conference I'm not embarrassed to claim are Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, and maybe Old Dominion. The others I have no interest what so ever seeing and I don't expect anyone else does either. Marshall should tell CUSA to keep its $250k and bounce. Lose more money playing a CUSA east schedule anyways.

You must be super embarrassed that one of those embarrassing teams embarrassed you during your almost undefeated season then

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and another beat you in the Conference championship game in 2013.

I'm proud to claim Rice and UTEP.

The only bad thing I could say about either program is you we are no where near each other.

You guys should be approaching the MWC right now IMO.

(05-30-2016 04:17 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  Don't know why there are two ECU fans and a UCF fan advocating for Marshall to reach out to the MAC, but the odds of that happening, even in this age, are roughly zero

An all Satirday schedule with divisional opponents in Virgina Beach, Charlotte, Nashville, West Palm Beach, and South Beach beats the heck out of an all Tues./Wed. November schedule with divisional games in Ohio, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio, and Buffalo.

This part is true.

The conference realignment board is leaking.

(05-30-2016 07:01 PM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  The conference realignment board is leaking.

Somebody call the amberlamps

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(05-30-2016 01:36 PM)keebler645 Wrote:  Umm, no to the MAC. Obviously their TV deal is going to go down next time too so that would be a silly reason to move.

The top programs in the MAC are great, but just like our conference, the bottom of the barrel is pretty bad. So bad, that I don't want to share a conference with them.

A perfect world would be a new conference with the top teams from the MAC, CUSA, and possibly a few from the Sun Belt depending on how many teams. I know it would never happen for multiple reasons.

(05-30-2016 06:17 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 01:36 PM)keebler645 Wrote:  Umm, no to the MAC. Obviously their TV deal is going to go down next time too so that would be a silly reason to move.

Yeah, 13 years from now when MAC deal is up the current market will have not changed again?

Im sure the MAC will worry about that 2028.

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I'll happily lay money the ESPN will pay the penalties and will restructure in less than 3 years. ESPN is gashing in viewership and cash. You won't be getting blood from a stone.

I would be shocked if there isn't a clause that lets espn explore a option to get out or lower the contract if viewer numbers drop. But unless espn has other content (SBC, AAC, CUSA) that will fill the Tuesday/Wednesday night games, I think the MAC's contract is probably safe.

Complaining about one G5 conference while wanting to go to another G5 conference is like trading a used garbage can for slightly newer garbage can. It's still a garbage can. If you're not in a P5, it simply doesn't matter at least not to a network.

(05-30-2016 09:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  I would be shocked if there isn't a clause that lets espn explore a option to get out or lower the contract if viewer numbers drop. But unless espn has other content (SBC, AAC, CUSA) that will fill the Tuesday/Wednesday night games, I think the MAC's contract is probably safe.

Great point and I'm pretty sure there is. They aren't just giving money for 13 years with no change to the numbers if they lose money or if they don't get more than 5 people to watch that amazing matchup between EMU and Kent State. Oh man, I get chill bumps whenever 9:30 EST rolls around on a Tuesday night.

(05-30-2016 12:29 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  The only other programs in conference I'm not embarrassed to claim are Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, and maybe Old Dominion. The others I have no interest what so ever seeing and I don't expect anyone else does either. Marshall should tell CUSA to keep its $250k and bounce. Lose more money playing a CUSA east schedule anyways.

Bye. Don't let the door....

(05-30-2016 01:48 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Why do we have so many AAC fans on here telling us how they are winners? Hell if you look at their records...especially say a ECU. They only won once UofL, TCU and Cinny, left the conference. Hell you would think ECU was a top program from reading their fans opinions. I didn't know any different till I just went and checked....

finished in the top 25 once in 25 years. .500 or below 8 out the last 15 seasons.

Even a good program like Houston....couldn't win till the better schools left the conference they were in and honestly the same goes for most AAC school programs.

Then we have Rice fans wanting to leave CUSA...which I understand, we all want to leave the conference we are in. But the question is why would the MWC want Rice? Houston market? Hell any local HS program owns more of that market than Rice. UTEP needs to find a new home...it's a win for CUSA and them once they do.

I don't want North Texas to leave. I like C-USA West. I don't like the new media deal. I don't like that the conference is losing bowls to the Belt. And I don't like reading about fans of eastern teams calling for western teams to find a new home. I can't recall reading a fan from the western division calling for an eastern school to leave.

(05-30-2016 09:46 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 01:48 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Why do we have so many AAC fans on here telling us how they are winners? Hell if you look at their records...especially say a ECU. They only won once UofL, TCU and Cinny, left the conference. Hell you would think ECU was a top program from reading their fans opinions. I didn't know any different till I just went and checked....

finished in the top 25 once in 25 years. .500 or below 8 out the last 15 seasons.

Even a good program like Houston....couldn't win till the better schools left the conference they were in and honestly the same goes for most AAC school programs.

Then we have Rice fans wanting to leave CUSA...which I understand, we all want to leave the conference we are in. But the question is why would the MWC want Rice? Houston market? Hell any local HS program owns more of that market than Rice. UTEP needs to find a new home...it's a win for CUSA and them once they do.

I don't want North Texas to leave. I like C-USA West. I don't like the new media deal. I don't like that the conference is losing bowls to the Belt. And I don't like reading about fans of eastern teams calling for western teams to find a new home. I can't recall reading a fan from the western division calling for an eastern school to leave.

if UTEP gets a MWC invite it will be good for them and CUSA in travel cost.

The conference did not lose a bowl to the SBC...CUSA gave them the bowl by opting out. As far as you liking CUSA it makes no difference...your school would take a AAC invite if it came. There's not one school in this conference that isn't looking to get out of it. Just as there's not one school in the AAC that isn't hoping to move on. And no matter what SBC fans say...any school in that conference would take a CUSA invite. The one's that say other wise know their chance is slim to none.

There is a pecking order and while the lines are blurred a little..they are still clear enough to see

(05-30-2016 09:41 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  So discouraging to be stuck in this conference. Even more discouraging when leadership at your school tries to spin things and tell fans how excited we should be.

all g5 are in the same rowing tug rub.....it was inevitable once realignment started....

getting screwed is nothing more than an anticipated prison sex scheme....

(05-30-2016 10:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 09:46 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 01:48 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Why do we have so many AAC fans on here telling us how they are winners? Hell if you look at their records...especially say a ECU. They only won once UofL, TCU and Cinny, left the conference. Hell you would think ECU was a top program from reading their fans opinions. I didn't know any different till I just went and checked....

finished in the top 25 once in 25 years. .500 or below 8 out the last 15 seasons.

Even a good program like Houston....couldn't win till the better schools left the conference they were in and honestly the same goes for most AAC school programs.

Then we have Rice fans wanting to leave CUSA...which I understand, we all want to leave the conference we are in. But the question is why would the MWC want Rice? Houston market? Hell any local HS program owns more of that market than Rice. UTEP needs to find a new home...it's a win for CUSA and them once they do.

I don't want North Texas to leave. I like C-USA West. I don't like the new media deal. I don't like that the conference is losing bowls to the Belt. And I don't like reading about fans of eastern teams calling for western teams to find a new home. I can't recall reading a fan from the western division calling for an eastern school to leave.

if UTEP gets a MWC invite it will be good for them and CUSA in travel cost.

The conference did not lose a bowl to the SBC...CUSA gave them the bowl by opting out. As far as you liking CUSA it makes no difference...your school would take a AAC invite if it came. There's not one school in this conference that isn't looking to get out of it. Just as there's not one school in the AAC that isn't hoping to move on. And no matter what SBC fans say...any school in that conference would take a CUSA invite. The one's that say other wise know their chance is slim to none.

There is a pecking order and while the lines are blurred a little..they are still clear enough to see

for your guy's sake, the mwc is easily the best move....I hope it happens for yaz....

I love all the strawman arguments. What a bunch of knobs. $250k??? Wood Selig said the contracts are $9million. And they include ESPN3 and not having to play on freaking Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

As for the B1G, per a reliable source, their last media deal was $1 billion. It had a slightly longer duration, but not enough to justify a $500 million cut.

As or the couple of Marshall fans with delusions of grandeur... you can all GTFO. Seriously.

(05-30-2016 11:33 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 09:41 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  So discouraging to be stuck in this conference. Even more discouraging when leadership at your school tries to spin things and tell fans how excited we should be.

Fairly visible on the efforts UTEP, Rice, Southern Mississippi and Old Dominion are making to move to the MWC or AAC. And I have to think USM has the leg up on the next AAC opening, unless Tillman Fertitta buys UH into the AAC. Marshall has been quiet.

For a Rice fan, you're not very bright.

(05-30-2016 01:07 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 12:57 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 12:29 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  The only other programs in conference I'm not embarrassed to claim are Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, and maybe Old Dominion. The others I have no interest what so ever seeing and I don't expect anyone else does either. Marshall should tell CUSA to keep its $250k and bounce. Lose more money playing a CUSA east schedule anyways.

You must be super embarrassed that one of those embarrassing teams embarrassed you during your almost undefeated season then

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Marshall is vital to CUSA. Take them away and the conference value struggles. The Herd are the most recognized brand in CUSA and bring much needed national attention with them.

WKU is fortunate to be playing in a league with Marshall.

Funny stuff...I guess us being ranked last season brings nothing to CUSA...

(05-31-2016 01:57 AM)Artifice Wrote:  I love all the strawman arguments. What a bunch of knobs. $250k??? Wood Selig said the contracts are $9million. And they include ESPN3 and not having to play on freaking Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

As for the B1G, per a reliable source, their last media deal was $1 billion. It had a slightly longer duration, but not enough to justify a $500 million cut.

As or the couple of Marshall fans with delusions of grandeur... you can all GTFO. Seriously.

The B1G's last deal was 100 million a year. They have already negotiated a deal for 250 million per year for HALF of their inventory. There was no cut.

(05-30-2016 10:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 09:46 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 01:48 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Why do we have so many AAC fans on here telling us how they are winners? Hell if you look at their records...especially say a ECU. They only won once UofL, TCU and Cinny, left the conference. Hell you would think ECU was a top program from reading their fans opinions. I didn't know any different till I just went and checked....

finished in the top 25 once in 25 years. .500 or below 8 out the last 15 seasons.

Even a good program like Houston....couldn't win till the better schools left the conference they were in and honestly the same goes for most AAC school programs.

Then we have Rice fans wanting to leave CUSA...which I understand, we all want to leave the conference we are in. But the question is why would the MWC want Rice? Houston market? Hell any local HS program owns more of that market than Rice. UTEP needs to find a new home...it's a win for CUSA and them once they do.

I don't want North Texas to leave. I like C-USA West. I don't like the new media deal. I don't like that the conference is losing bowls to the Belt. And I don't like reading about fans of eastern teams calling for western teams to find a new home. I can't recall reading a fan from the western division calling for an eastern school to leave.

if UTEP gets a MWC invite it will be good for them and CUSA in travel cost.

The conference did not lose a bowl to the SBC...CUSA gave them the bowl by opting out. As far as you liking CUSA it makes no difference...your school would take a AAC invite if it came. There's not one school in this conference that isn't looking to get out of it. Just as there's not one school in the AAC that isn't hoping to move on. And no matter what SBC fans say...any school in that conference would take a CUSA invite. The one's that say other wise know their chance is slim to none.

There is a pecking order and while the lines are blurred a little..they are still clear enough to see

I wouldn't be so sure of that since your new TV deal has happened. CUSA has received a negative stigma lately since taking the lower-end Sun Belt teams and adding a couple of football start-ups. 2-3 years ago, yes, any SBC team would've taken a CUSA invite. The payouts of the previous TV deal and the optimism of the new teams with large markets going into the renegotiation was high, but it kind of backfired on you guys.

Those days of any Sun Belt team taking an invite to CUSA may be overy though. Any program switching to CUSA will have an entrance/exit fee, and the new TV deal won't help cover that. There's not nearly as much to be gained in CUSA like there was before. I also think the press CUSA has been getting about this may be shying away any SBC programs from jumping on an invite.

I'm not saying this because I think Troy can't get into CUSA either. That's never really mattered to most Troy fans for whatever reason. But I would hope that it's obvious that CUSA isn't as attractive as it was back when FIU, FAU, MTSU, WKU, and UNT were invited.