(07-22-2016 01:40 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 12:54 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 09:00 PM)TerryD Wrote:  1-on-1 w/Swoff: Says Notre Dame will receive full share of #ACCNetwork revenue, as opposed to the 1/5 share it gets from overall rights.
@DavidTeelatDP

It was a better deal for ND than even I thought

TOUCHDOWN JESUS

Swofford said Notre Dame was no closer to joining the conference for football, but "the phone lines are always open."
-- ESPN.com

even you can't believe it ...
seriously ...
if reports are true ...
full share for nothing ...
I would fire this nincompoop in a nanosecond ...

SWOFFORD'S FOLLY

It's not a "full share for nothing."

they get a full share ...
in return, we get air ...

NOT FAIR

(07-22-2016 03:17 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 01:40 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 12:54 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 09:00 PM)TerryD Wrote:  1-on-1 w/Swoff: Says Notre Dame will receive full share of #ACCNetwork revenue, as opposed to the 1/5 share it gets from overall rights.
@DavidTeelatDP

It was a better deal for ND than even I thought

TOUCHDOWN JESUS

Swofford said Notre Dame was no closer to joining the conference for football, but "the phone lines are always open."
-- ESPN.com

even you can't believe it ...
seriously ...
if reports are true ...
full share for nothing ...
I would fire this nincompoop in a nanosecond ...

SWOFFORD'S FOLLY

It's not a "full share for nothing."

they get a full share ...
in return, we get air ...

NOT FAIR

Brand + value = $$$$

LIFE AIN'T FAIR

(07-22-2016 03:01 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  The ACC Network will have an entire show devoted to ND football. Period. Notre Dame talking heads, Notre Dame games and clips, and interviews from yesteryear, etc., etc. Irish Catholics over the age of 45 will buy it quicker than Pope souvenirs. I've got John Paul II souvenirs and I'm not even a Catholic. This will help sell the network in Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Philly, Baltimore, NYC, and Boston - any place where there is a large concentration of older Irish Catholics.

They will do the same thing that older ACC basketball fans do - watch reruns of special games - national championships, exciting comebacks, abject screwings, etc., etc.

I'll predict the top 25 shows right now - shows without a live sports broadcast:

1. The Notre Dame football show
2. The Coach K show
3. The UNC basketball show
4. The Louisville basketball show
5. The Jimbo Fisher Show
6. The ACC weekly week in review Basketball Show
7. The Dabo Sweeny Show
8. The ACC's girls with the largest breasts and most erect nipples and puffed up lips show
9. The Syracuse basketball Show
10. The NC State basketball Show
11. The VT football show
12. Bobby Petrino show
13. The Notre Dame old timer's show
14. The UNC football show
15. UVa Olympic sports show
16. GT Football
17. The NC State football show
18. The ACC is better than the SEC show
19. The ACC in the NCAA, ACC, and Dixie Classic basketball tournament show
20. The UNC is great and let's pat ourselves on the back show
21. The Duke is better than UNC show and let's rub UNC's face in it show
22. The we hate Notre Dame Show
23. The we hate UNC and Duke Show
24. The poor pitiful, WF, BC, Pitt show
25. The egghead athlete show

Younger Irish fans too...there are multitudes of them. They buy ND stuff like crazy too.

(07-22-2016 11:54 AM)green Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 06:24 PM)GTTiger Wrote:  Nothing is rotten, the ACC gets a rights revenue increase until 2019.

David Teel reported this today.

The announcement was great PR for the conference today

The launch of an ACC network run in partnership with ESPN, which has been expected for 2017, will likely take longer than expected.

The cable giant has asked for the delay, according to Georgia Tech president G.P. “Bud” Peterson

In exchange for a later start date, ESPN could make additional payments on top of the rights fees already paid to the conference, Peterson said.
-- myajc.com Oct. 29, 2015

this is no victory ...
it's a g_ddamn delay ...

SPINNING HAY INTO GOLD

ACC teams will get $3 million per year until then.

THE GOLDEN RULE

(07-22-2016 01:40 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 12:54 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 09:00 PM)TerryD Wrote:  1-on-1 w/Swoff: Says Notre Dame will receive full share of #ACCNetwork revenue, as opposed to the 1/5 share it gets from overall rights.
@DavidTeelatDP

It was a better deal for ND than even I thought

TOUCHDOWN JESUS

Swofford said Notre Dame was no closer to joining the conference for football, but "the phone lines are always open."
-- ESPN.com

even you can't believe it ...
seriously ...
if reports are true ...
full share for nothing ...
I would fire this nincompoop in a nanosecond ...

SWOFFORD'S FOLLY

It's not a "full share for nothing."

swofford frittered away the last best hope to reel them in ...

MOBY DICK

(07-22-2016 03:07 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 03:01 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  The ACC Network will have an entire show devoted to ND football. Period.

if nd was all-powerful ...
why didn't they start a network on their own ...

THEY DON'T BELONG

ND was well on its way to starting its own digital "Irish Channel".

It was Jack Swarbrick's baby. ND's digital media facilities are better than most.

When ND joined the ACC, it was switched to WatchND, an app and web site that mirrored WatchESPN.

All that is happening here is that WatchND will be folded into the ACC Network.

http://www.watchnd.tv/#!/

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/watchnd/...61862?mt=8


ALCHEMY

(07-22-2016 03:44 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 01:40 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 12:54 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 09:00 PM)TerryD Wrote:  1-on-1 w/Swoff: Says Notre Dame will receive full share of #ACCNetwork revenue, as opposed to the 1/5 share it gets from overall rights.
@DavidTeelatDP

It was a better deal for ND than even I thought

TOUCHDOWN JESUS

Swofford said Notre Dame was no closer to joining the conference for football, but "the phone lines are always open."
-- ESPN.com

even you can't believe it ...
seriously ...
if reports are true ...
full share for nothing ...
I would fire this nincompoop in a nanosecond ...

SWOFFORD'S FOLLY

It's not a "full share for nothing."

swofford frittered away the last best hope to reel them in ...

MOBY DICK

Now you see........

ON A CLEAR DAY

(07-22-2016 03:47 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 03:07 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 03:01 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  The ACC Network will have an entire show devoted to ND football. Period.

if nd was all-powerful ...
why didn't they start a network on their own ...

THEY DON'T BELONG

ND was well on its way to starting its own Irish Channel.

It was Jack Swarbrick's baby. ND's digital media facilities are better than most.

When ND joined the ACC, it was switched to WatchND, an app and web site that mirrored WatchESPN.

All that is happening here is that WatchND will be folded into the ACC Digital Network.

ALCHEMY

valid point ...
but nd by itself could not be the basis of a linear channel a la the longhorn network ...

BUDGE AN INCH

(07-22-2016 03:17 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 01:40 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 12:54 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 09:00 PM)TerryD Wrote:  1-on-1 w/Swoff: Says Notre Dame will receive full share of #ACCNetwork revenue, as opposed to the 1/5 share it gets from overall rights.
@DavidTeelatDP

It was a better deal for ND than even I thought

TOUCHDOWN JESUS

Swofford said Notre Dame was no closer to joining the conference for football, but "the phone lines are always open."
-- ESPN.com

even you can't believe it ...
seriously ...
if reports are true ...
full share for nothing ...
I would fire this nincompoop in a nanosecond ...

SWOFFORD'S FOLLY

It's not a "full share for nothing."

they get a full share ...
in return, we get air ...

NOT FAIR

While it appears to be unfair from the perspective of the casual fan, I found this portion of the David Teel article quite illuminating:

Quote:Also during that one-on-one, Swofford said that Notre Dame, an ACC member for sports other than football, will receive a full share of ACC Network revenue. The Fighting Irish receive one-fifth of a full share of the conference’s guaranteed rights fees from ESPN.

And while the full-share arrangement may frustrate some who want Notre Dame all in, understand that without the Irish’s national brand and overall sports excellence, there might well not be an ACC Network. Further, Notre Dame will produce more than its share of ACC Network content.

So it would appear that we should thank our Irish friends for their assistance instead of bashing them for a perceived injustice that, when examined, is in fact, not an injustice at all.

Southwest Virginia colloquialism:
Quite complaining son, that dog won't hunt.

(07-22-2016 03:44 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 11:54 AM)green Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 06:24 PM)GTTiger Wrote:  Nothing is rotten, the ACC gets a rights revenue increase until 2019.

David Teel reported this today.

The announcement was great PR for the conference today

The launch of an ACC network run in partnership with ESPN, which has been expected for 2017, will likely take longer than expected.

The cable giant has asked for the delay, according to Georgia Tech president G.P. “Bud” Peterson

In exchange for a later start date, ESPN could make additional payments on top of the rights fees already paid to the conference, Peterson said.
-- myajc.com Oct. 29, 2015

this is no victory ...
it's a g_ddamn delay ...

SPINNING HAY INTO GOLD

ACC teams will get $3 million per year until then.

THE GOLDEN RULE

Because of when they made their original deals, neither the ACC nor the SEC can take their rights to market anytime soon. Both had to extend their ESPN deals to get their networks so ESPN could guarantee cable and satellite providers that the product would be around for a while. Because the Big Ten's first- and second-tier rights deals expired at the top of the rights bubble, that league could sign two short-term (six years) big-money deals with ESPN and Fox. The Big Ten could open a huge revenue gap in 2024 if it can convince Apple, Google or Netflix to join the rights fray, or it could continue making similar money from more traditional partners. The ACC and SEC won't get the chance to chase the ultimate payday like the Big Ten will
-- Andy Staples

BE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE STARTED FROM

(07-22-2016 03:47 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 03:07 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 03:01 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  The ACC Network will have an entire show devoted to ND football. Period.

if nd was all-powerful ...
why didn't they start a network on their own ...

THEY DON'T BELONG

ND was well on its way to starting its own digital "Irish Channel".

It was Jack Swarbrick's baby. ND's digital media facilities are better than most.

When ND joined the ACC, it was switched to WatchND, an app and web site that mirrored WatchESPN.

All that is happening here is that WatchND will be folded into the ACC Network.

http://www.watchnd.tv/#!/

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/watchnd/...61862?mt=8


ALCHEMY

UNC has also invested in it's digital video production thru GoHeelstv via its web site.
It broadcast many games in HD as well as the majority of ESPN3 broadcasts.

(07-22-2016 04:04 PM)JAE_VT Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 03:17 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 01:40 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 12:54 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 09:00 PM)TerryD Wrote:  1-on-1 w/Swoff: Says Notre Dame will receive full share of #ACCNetwork revenue, as opposed to the 1/5 share it gets from overall rights.
@DavidTeelatDP

It was a better deal for ND than even I thought

TOUCHDOWN JESUS

Swofford said Notre Dame was no closer to joining the conference for football, but "the phone lines are always open."
-- ESPN.com

even you can't believe it ...
seriously ...
if reports are true ...
full share for nothing ...
I would fire this nincompoop in a nanosecond ...

SWOFFORD'S FOLLY

It's not a "full share for nothing."

they get a full share ...
in return, we get air ...

NOT FAIR

While it appears to be unfair from the perspective of the casual fan, I found this portion of the David Teel article quite illuminating:

Quote:Also during that one-on-one, Swofford said that Notre Dame, an ACC member for sports other than football, will receive a full share of ACC Network revenue. The Fighting Irish receive one-fifth of a full share of the conference’s guaranteed rights fees from ESPN.

And while the full-share arrangement may frustrate some who want Notre Dame all in, understand that without the Irish’s national brand and overall sports excellence, there might well not be an ACC Network. Further, Notre Dame will produce more than its share of ACC Network content.

So it would appear that we should thank our Irish friends for their assistance instead of bashing them for a perceived injustice that, when examined, is in fact, not an injustice at all.

Southwest Virginia colloquialism:
Quite complaining son, that dog won't hunt.

the conference owns nd's rights save football til 2027 ...
we didn't need their permission or generosity to include them in a network launch ...
that's a canard designed to distract from swofford's utter incompetence ...
the man can't negotiate for sh_t ...
it's like saying religion isn't worth a damn without a hell ...

UNPROVABLE FALLACY

(07-22-2016 04:04 PM)JAE_VT Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 03:17 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 01:40 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(07-22-2016 12:54 PM)green Wrote:  

(07-21-2016 09:00 PM)TerryD Wrote:  1-on-1 w/Swoff: Says Notre Dame will receive full share of #ACCNetwork revenue, as opposed to the 1/5 share it gets from overall rights.
@DavidTeelatDP

It was a better deal for ND than even I thought

TOUCHDOWN JESUS

Swofford said Notre Dame was no closer to joining the conference for football, but "the phone lines are always open."
-- ESPN.com

even you can't believe it ...
seriously ...
if reports are true ...
full share for nothing ...
I would fire this nincompoop in a nanosecond ...

SWOFFORD'S FOLLY

It's not a "full share for nothing."

they get a full share ...
in return, we get air ...

NOT FAIR

While it appears to be unfair from the perspective of the casual fan, I found this portion of the David Teel article quite illuminating:

Quote:Also during that one-on-one, Swofford said that Notre Dame, an ACC member for sports other than football, will receive a full share of ACC Network revenue. The Fighting Irish receive one-fifth of a full share of the conference’s guaranteed rights fees from ESPN.

And while the full-share arrangement may frustrate some who want Notre Dame all in, understand that without the Irish’s national brand and overall sports excellence, there might well not be an ACC Network. Further, Notre Dame will produce more than its share of ACC Network content.

So it would appear that we should thank our Irish friends for their assistance instead of bashing them for a perceived injustice that, when examined, is in fact, not an injustice at all.

Southwest Virginia colloquialism:
Quite complaining son, that dog won't hunt.

Why is Swofford still trying to justify ND's partial deal with the ACC. I thought, without the ACCN, the case was made? Everyone made more money and plays ND every 3 years in football. ND is very good in Olympic Sports. They are quality competition. All the ACC gave up was a few Bowl spots. That could rub some people the wrong way some years but well worth the money. If ND plays the same number of games in a sport, they deserve same share as everyone else. As long as the ACCN is not ND centric, they deserve a full share.....on the Olympic side of things.

Basically the ACCN is a conference based WatchESPN platform. It consist of a tradional channel sold to cable/satellite providers& a ESPN3 type channel for each school.